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Madeleine McCann

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    #3422
    Plumbthedepths
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    Sunflower 27 wrote:
    I'm musing generally. I don't expect you to answer or know. Relax.


    I don't find it credible that whom ever was going to check on all the kids would carry a bunch of keys each time tbh. So a door being left open is believeable.


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    #3423
    Sunflower 27
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    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Perhaps, but not impossible. Not something that should be ruled out.
    It pains me to even type this, but white, blond haired children are of high value in those circles.

    Fair enough. I maintain a possible abduction by a paedophile three years previous is a weak link, but each to their own.


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    #3424
    Spanish Eyes
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    Occam's Razor is a good waypoint in most things.


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    #3425
    oceanman
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    She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)
    Lavinia wrote: »
    Parents killed her and covered it up
    End of story.
    please feel free to expand on that theory...especially how they managed to covered it up?


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    #3426
    Sunflower 27
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I don't find it credible that whom ever was going to check on all the kids would carry a bunch of keys each time tbh. So a door being left open is believeable.

    I don't think they were checking more than three apartments were they?
    I never put my apartment key with my home keys, it's usually just one key with a number on it.


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    #3427
    micks_address
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I find it incredible that people will take their children on holiday but then choose to be away from them, doesn't make sense. To be honest nothing of what went on in 2007 and the adults behaviour/stories makes sense.

    I'd say it's pretty normal to out kids in kid clubs during the day. They enjoy social interaction with other kids and get some activities in.. It gives the parents some.down time as well. It's a tricky balance.. we have been on French campsites where our teenage son is out with a bunch of kids playing soccer and didn't come back when agreed and it freaks the **** out of you and then they trundle in oblivious to any concern they may have caused you.. leaving kids less than 4 year old alone is reckless behavior though. There's no sugar coating it. Checking every 30 minutes doesnt make it any better in my opinion.. anything can happen in a few minutes.. the freelance journalist at the start of the documentary said he did same with his kids but used a baby monitor.. was there ever talk of negligence charges for the McCann's? It's amazing shes almost 12 years missing .. she's same age as our son.. I'd way there's at least a possibility she's alive with a couple who adopted/bought her like the Irish nuns used to sell babies to wealthy US families back in the day..


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    #3428
    CPTM
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    She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)
    Lavinia wrote: »
    Parents killed her and covered it up
    End of story.

    Pity you didn't clarify that for us sooner. That's it now thank god. Close the thread mods, on to the next crime story I guess now that this has all been buttoned up for us by Lavinia :-) .


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    #3429
    Spanish Eyes
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I find it incredible that people will take their children on holiday but then choose to be away from them, doesn't make sense. To be honest nothing of what went on in 2007 and the adults behaviour/stories makes sense.

    To be fair with my reasonable hat on, it is nice for parents (and kids) to have a break from each other during the day if that is possible. Just a couple of hours you know?

    But it seems to me that the children in this case just slept in the apartment and had breakfast there. Not much more interraction with parents whilst on hols. Day care, kids club, then left alone at night from what I can see.

    Look I know frazzled parents often need a break from their kids, such is life, but all day every day and at night too. Why bring them at all?

    We are veering off territory here, but it may be important too.


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    #3430
    Plumbthedepths
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    Sunflower 27 wrote:
    . I don't think they were checking more than three apartments where they? I never put my apartment key with my home keys, it's usually just one key with a number on it.


    If having the children with them at the restaurant was an inconvenience, it's credible to believe fumbling with keys was also an inconvenience and leaving a door unlocked really wasn't an issue as the children's well being didn't seem to be of great importance.


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    #3431
    micks_address
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    CPTM wrote: »
    Pity you didn't clarify that for us sooner. That's it now thank god. Close the thread mods, on to the next crime story I guess now that this has all been buttoned up for us by Lavinia :-) .

    I can't see the motive for covering up an accidental death.. unless they were worried an autopsy might show drugs in her system that hard been illegally prescribed by the parents... Kate being an anthestist doesn't help here.. did they use drugs to ensure a hassle free evening? Would seem far to risky but if you were a trained medical professional you might feel like you know what you are doing..


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    #3432
    Sunflower 27
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    If having the children with them at the restaurant was an inconvenience, it's credible to believe fumbling with keys was also an inconvenience and leaving a door unlocked really wasn't an issue as the children's well being didn't seem to be of great importance.

    True, we just don't know. I think saying it was left open is important for the abduction theory, that's all. I can't imagine anyone admitting to that (and the outrage) if they didn't have to.

    If anyone was really watching them, they'd know the door was being left open and the whole window scenario is ridiculous. Why risk being seen climbing in and out a window with a child if you know the door is open?


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    #3433
    Plumbthedepths
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    Spanish Eyes wrote:
    Look I know frazzled parents often need a break from their kids, such is life, but all day every day and at night too. Why bring them at all?


    When my kids were very young, we did the family holiday thing spend our time together. Later in the year my wife and I went away for a week together children left with trusted family. They got a break from us, we got time together.


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    #3434
    micks_address
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    Sunflower 27 wrote: »
    True, we just don't know. I think saying it was left open is important for the abduction theory, that's all. I can't imagine anyone admitting to that (and the outrage) if they didn't have to.

    If anyone was really watching them, they'd know the door was being left open and the whole window scenario is ridiculous. Why risk being seen climbing in and out a window with a child if you know the door is open?

    Pretty sure the documentary suggested the patio door was unlocked


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    #3435
    Spanish Eyes
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    Sunflower 27 wrote: »
    I don't think they were checking more than three apartments were they?
    I never put my apartment key with my home keys, it's usually just one key with a number on it.

    Well now, that is an interesting point.

    If those people actually checked all the kids every 30 minutes or so, they would need a key for each apartment. Hmmm never thought of that. I don't know how many apartments were involved but I'd guess more than three TBH.

    Unless each apartment was unlocked also.

    Which leads us back to why 5A was targeted specifically.


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    #3436
    micks_address
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    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Well now, that is an interesting point.

    If those people actually checked all the kids every 30 minutes or so, they would need a key for each apartment. Hmmm never thought of that. I don't know how many apartments were involved but I'd guess more than three TBH.

    Unless each apartment was unlocked also.

    Which leads us back to why 5A was targeted specifically.

    Have you watched the Netflix documentary? It suggests the appartment was under surveillance and she was probably taken to order.. there an email intercepted that shows a ring in Belgium ordering a girl fitting her profile from Portugal


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    #3437
    Spanish Eyes
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    micks_address wrote: »
    Have you watched the Netflix documentary? It suggests the appartment was under surveillance and she was probably taken to order.. there an email intercepted that shows a ring in Belgium ordering a girl fitting her profile from Portugal

    Only watched 2 episodes TBH.

    But my point was regarding the so called "checks". Seems to me that different people got up (allegedly) every 30 minutes or so to check on the children. So each checker would have needed a key to each apartment. Can you imagine the fumbling for keys going on there?

    If the checks ever happened at all indeed.

    I don't believe the surveillance and abduction theory at all. TBH.


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    #3438
    tretorn
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    She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)
    And if a ring did order her the thought of what she was wanted for is enough to make you ill.

    And who in Gods name would be happy with anyone checking on their sleeping children, surely most couples would want to check on their children themselves. Whoever checked the MC Cann children before Kate didnt actually look at the beds, he checked from the door. Who lets men who arent relatives near their sleeping children (even if they are close friends), this is all bizarre.


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    #3439
    Plumbthedepths
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    Spanish Eyes wrote:
    But my point was regarding the so called "checks". Seems to me that different people got up (allegedly) every 30 minutes or so to check on the children. So each checker would have needed a key to each apartment. Can you imagine the fumbling for keys going on there?


    There was 3 other couples with children there with the McCanns so that would be keys to four apartments each time for the checker to bring with them, open doors seem more plausible than the checker acting like a Jailer.


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    #3440
    micks_address
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    tretorn wrote: »
    And if a ring did order her the thought of what she was wanted for is enough to make you ill.

    Or could be someone lost a child very like her and wanted a replacement.. who knows


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    #3441
    Sunflower 27
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    micks_address wrote: »
    Or could be someone lost a child very like her and wanted a replacement.. who knows

    Given the exposure this case has got, I doubt she is living with another family.


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    #3442
    Plumbthedepths
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    Sunflower 27 wrote:
    Given the exposure this case has got, I doubt she is living with another family.


    The uniqueness of her eye would never escape the notice of those around her given the publicity it attracted.


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    #3443
    Hoboo
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    Accident happened, parents hid body
    Only ones I believe in all this are Eddie and Keela. The noses don't lie.


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    #3444
    Spanish Eyes
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    There was 3 other couples with children there with the McCanns so that would be keys to four apartments each time for the checker to bring with them, open doors seem more plausible than the checker acting like a Jailer.

    I am sceptical about any checks at all TBH. But maybe there were.

    So each checker had to carry four keys. Full of vino and all that. Either there were no checks, or all the doors were unlocked for convenience.

    Just cannot get my head around the targeting of a child theory. When all other apartments had kids in them too.

    Most bizarre story. But friends in high places may mean a lot of theorising in MSM has been suppressed. I reckon a D notice is on this TBH.

    We are not covered by that, but there is zero talk about it anywhere in UK anymore.


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    #3445
    micks_address
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    Hoboo wrote: »
    Only ones I believe in all this are Eddie and Keela. The noses don't lie.

    While I'd like to agree I just don't know how they'd do it.. supposing she overdosed on drugs assuming this happened at say 7pm.. where would they have stored her body and moving her would surely have been seen


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    #3446
    SusieBlue
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    She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)
    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    The uniqueness of her eye would never escape the notice of those around her given the publicity it attracted.

    I think releasing the uniqueness of her eye was done in good faith but it was a bad move.

    It made her extremely identifyable, dangerously so, to the point that it made keeping her even riskier for whoever took her (if she was taken, just for you SpanishEyes).


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    #3447
    micks_address
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    The uniqueness of her eye would never escape the notice of those around her given the publicity it attracted.

    Could possibly be corrected with surgery?


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    #3448
    Plumbthedepths
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    Spanish Eyes wrote:
    Just cannot get my head around the targeting of a child theory. When all other apartments had kids in them too.


    8 children all together. The 3 McCann children, two other couples with 2 children each and one child to the last couple.


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    #3449
    Plumbthedepths
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    micks_address wrote:
    Could possibly be corrected with surgery?


    In a few hours after her alleged abduction?


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    #3450
    Spanish Eyes
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    In a few hours after her alleged abduction?

    Verging on a bit of madness here :eek:


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    #3451
    micks_address
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    In a few hours after her alleged abduction?

    In time.. why would it have to be in few hours? It's a real shame the cctv footage in petrol station was erased over..would have been good to rule it.in/out


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