The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann (Netflix)

SusieBlue · 19-03-2019 01:33PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Didn't they say the only prints on the window at all was one palm print from Kates , one which would show she opened the window and not closed it ,

There was zero partial prints of anyone por even glove prints found ,

As far as I know all the tests came back inconclusive.

yourdeadwright · 19-03-2019 01:36PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

As far as I know all the tests came back inconclusive.

Kates print where found on the window,a goggle search can confirm it and it was in the Netflix programme to ,

hobie21 · 19-03-2019 01:42PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

Unfortunately some people are jumping on the syringe as if its some sort of golden egg that proves they were dosing Madeleine up to her eyeballs with ketamine and the likes.
Anyone who has been around children will know that most over the counter medicines for kids come with syringes as its easier to get the child to take the medicine from them, rather than off a spoon.

Something extremely innocent and easily explained has been exploited into "proof" that they drugging their kids. Its awful.

Why were the other two kids so unresponsive, sleeping through the while crisis as lots of people made a commotion in the room around them. Kate was really worried about their unconscious state to. I think they were drugged unconscious.

SusieBlue · 19-03-2019 01:47PM

hobie21 wrote: »

Why were the other two kids so unresponsive, sleeping through the while crisis as lots of people made a commotion in the room around them. Kate was really worried about their unconscious state to. I think they were drugged unconscious.

Its not unheard of for children to sleep through utter chaos.
Pure speculation on my part, but I presume Kate was concerned because her daughter was missing and was scared for the welfare of her other kids.
She was distressed and upset and worried about her children.

There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that any of the children were drugged, bar calpol being found in the room. Calpol is not a sedative.

If we are suggesting they actually gave them something prescription dose to knock them out, there would be a record of this either from the UK or locally in Praia de Luz.
Unless we're saying the pharmacists are in on the cover up as well.

The Portuguese police were determined to prove the McCann's guilt. If there was a record of them obtaining sedatives, they would have found it.

hobie21 · 19-03-2019 01:51PM

hobie21 wrote: »

Why were the other two kids so unresponsive, sleeping through the while crisis as lots of people made a commotion in the room around them. Kate was really worried about their unconscious state to. I think they were drugged unconscious.

They are doctors in the company of other doctors. I'm sure they would have had acess to prescription drugs. Brought by their friends or themselves.

yourdeadwright · 19-03-2019 01:52PM

When Kate ran down to the Tapas bar shouting "they took her " did she leave the other kids asleep in the apartment ?

SusieBlue · 19-03-2019 01:53PM

hobie21 wrote: »

They are doctors in the company of other doctors. I'm sure they would have had acess to prescription drugs. Brought by their friends or themselves.

Ok, where's the evidence of this?
Again, the Portuguese police were certain of their liability, so why didn't they find proof of their access to these drugs?
Unless their pals are also criminal masterminds, capable of duping two international police forces?

Sunflower 27 · 19-03-2019 02:21PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

Ok, where's the evidence of this?
Again, the Portuguese police were certain of their liability, so why didn't they find proof of their access to these drugs?
Unless their pals are also criminal masterminds, capable of duping two international police forces?

This is something I've never felt comfortable with. Three children left alone in an apartment full of possible hazards.

I've no doubt they loved their children. But how could any parent leave children alone for 20+ minutes at a time and not be worrying about what could happen to them if they wake.

Only thing I can think of is they were very confident their children would not wake up, or at least not wake up easily.

Tipsy McSwagger · 19-03-2019 02:30PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

When Kate ran down to the Tapas bar shouting "they took her " did she leave the other kids asleep in the apartment ?

She was in a panic like anyone would be. Shock would have taken over and she would not have been aware of anything other than to find her missing daughter. Anyone who says they would have reacted differently must go around with a big S on their chest.

pc7 · 19-03-2019 02:41PM

Something like zirtek for kids can make them very sleepy, even a very small dose. Back then I think the likes of Dozol were available (I don't think anything like that was reported found though). But is very easy to purchase it over the counter.

ELM327 · 19-03-2019 02:43PM

This could have been done in a 1 hour episode rather than an 8 hour snoozefest with the occasional interesting nugget.

I have no doubt in my mind that she/they panicked and covered it up rather than anything externally nefarious happening. Children don't just disappear

hobie21 · 19-03-2019 02:45PM

pc7 wrote: »

Something like zirtek for kids can make them very sleepy, even a very small dose. Back then I think the likes of Dozol were available (I don't think anything like that was reported found though). But is very easy to purchase it over the counter.

They could have got rid of it easily before the investigation. They lied about the calpol and were always conscious of their public image

banie01 · 19-03-2019 02:48PM

The theory posited by the droning couple in the Documentary and apparently originally posited by the McCanns regarding why the twins slept through the commotion is that its llikely they were probably drugged by the kidnapper and thats what kept them sleeping.

Without going too far in to the realm of conspiracy theory, or relying on Kate being an anaesthatist.
Quite often as PC7 has said Antihistamine/Allergy medication can be used to help sleep.
Indeed many Antihistamine sold OTC as anti allergen are also available in higher doses as sleep aids or used as such in off label use.

ricero · 19-03-2019 02:58PM

Two episodes in now and enjoying it. The Portuguese police though look like amateurs.

yourdeadwright · 19-03-2019 03:21PM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

She was in a panic like anyone would be. Shock would have taken over and she would not have been aware of anything other than to find her missing daughter. Anyone who says they would have reacted differently must go around with a big S on their chest.

I don't agree,
If I thought one of my kids was kidnapped (which she did) I would not run back leaving the other two asleep alone, no chance in hell , Sure didn't they say it was like dining in your garden why not just shout over hedge form the balcony for help,

But them again I wouldn't leave any of my kids alone in an unlocked apartment with a door that leads to the road, on my holidays ,
In fact I wouldn't leave my phone or passport there unlocked and they are both replaceable ,

Tipsy McSwagger · 19-03-2019 03:28PM

ELM327 wrote: »

This could have been done in a 1 hour episode rather than an 8 hour snoozefest with the occasional interesting nugget.

I have no doubt in my mind that she/they panicked and covered it up rather than anything externally nefarious happening. Children don't just disappear

How did they do it then?

yourdeadwright · 19-03-2019 03:47PM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

How did they do it then?

Im not sure what I believe but it would have been quite easy

In the police interviews of the Tapa's 7 that are not on the Netflix programme ,Which is strange , and even stranger there friend's having Tapa's with them never gave interviews ever ,
there take surely it could only help there friends ?

If the time line first given is correct Gerry was the last to see her and there friend Jane said kate was annoyed because Gerry was gone for quite sum time "probably watching the football" he didn't dispute this ,

He could have just carried her into there car, They never went searching they stayed around the apartment that night, The next morning they went out searching before anyone else was up , That could have been when they got rid of her down one of the many hundred of deep wells in the area,

hobie21 · 19-03-2019 03:48PM

pc7 wrote: »

Something like zirtek for kids can make them very sleepy, even a very small dose. Back then I think the likes of Dozol were available (I don't think anything like that was reported found though). But is very easy to purchase it over the counter.

They could have got rid of it easily before the investigation. They lied about the calpol and were always conscious of their public image

Monife · 19-03-2019 03:50PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Im not sure what I believe but it would have been quite easy

In the police interviews of the Tapa's 7 that are not on the Netflix programme ,Which is strange , and even stranger there friend's having Tapa's with them never gave interviews ever ,
there take surely it could only help there friends ?

If the time line first given is correct Gerry was the last to see her and there friend Jane said kate was annoyed because Gerry was gone for quite sum time "probably watching the football" he didn't dispute this ,

He could have just carried her into there car, They never went searching they stayed around the apartment that night, The next morning they went out searching before anyone else was up , That could have been when they got rid of her down one of the many hundred of deep wells in the area,

They didn't have a car then. The first time they hired a car was 25 days after Madeleine disappeared.

SusieBlue · 19-03-2019 03:58PM

hobie21 wrote: »

They could have got rid of it easily before the investigation. They lied about the calpol and were always conscious of their public image

Owning calpol is neither suspicious nor a crime. How on earth would discovering a bottle of childrens over the counter medicine in the apartment affect their public image?

brookers · 19-03-2019 04:47PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I don't agree,
If I thought one of my kids was kidnapped (which she did) I would not run back leaving the other two asleep alone, no chance in hell , Sure didn't they say it was like dining in your garden why not just shout over hedge form the balcony for help,

But them again I wouldn't leave any of my kids alone in an unlocked apartment with a door that leads to the road, on my holidays ,
In fact I wouldn't leave my phone or passport there unlocked and they are both replaceable ,

Especially when she went through so much to have M. I just cant get over it, leaving little precious children alone in an apartment....

gozunda · 19-03-2019 05:01PM

brookers wrote: »

Especially when she went through so much to have M. I just cant get over it, leaving little precious children alone in an apartment....

Three children left for extended periods of time - unsupervised in an apartment with an unlocked patio door with access to the street. In a foreign country ...

And yet the parents believe they did nothing wrong in this regard. This beggars belief tbh.

Then in her Book - Kate McCann has the audacity to come out with the following when referring to the lead detective of the Portuguese investigation - Gonçalo Amaral

That man has caused us so much upset and anger because of how he has treated my beautiful Madeleine and the search to find her.
...
Here was a person who had been entrusted with finding our little girl and who failed her.'

What? So the parents - entrusted with the care of their children - but who leave the 3 children under four years of age alone in an unsecured apartment over multiple nights criticise the investigstor for 'treating' the missing child badly and that it was he who 'failed' the child - wtf!

They are living in Neverland or are really are making it up imo.

IAMAMORON · 19-03-2019 05:19PM

I watched the first 3 episodes last night. I only meant to watch one but kept going. It is brilliant.

The dog barking omfg

Definitely recommended.

Unearthly · 19-03-2019 06:19PM

Peaked around episode 3 and 4 but then went nowhere. Pretending there is a lead that then easily gets resolved

chicorytip · 19-03-2019 06:20PM

ELM327 wrote:

I have no doubt in my mind that she/they panicked and covered it up rather than anything externally nefarious happening. Children don't just disappear

Have you an opinion as to how and where they may have disposed of the body?

jeremyj1968 · 19-03-2019 07:33PM

chicorytip wrote: »

Have you an opinion as to how and where they may have disposed of the body?

There are plenty of scrub areas around the location where the body could have been buried, and also they could have disposed of the body in the sea. However, successfully hiding the body without a) being seen or b) having somebody find it afterwards, particularly in a foreign country, is the part that I have the problem with. To achieve this would have taken a bit of doing.

But I guess that is why we are all still here. I mean if there is a body then there is no mystery. And usually with all these mysteries, there is a certain amount of good fortune (for the perpetrators) involved in not being discovered.

BobbyBobberson · 19-03-2019 08:17PM

Why on earth do the Tories bother continuing to fund the search? Over 11 million pound on a single missing case. I assume PR?

Toots · 19-03-2019 11:11PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I wonder if she has access to Netflix?

That was my thought, too. She’d be old enough now that she could be watching it and perhaps question her identity. That’s providing she’s alive, which tbh, I doubt is the case at this stage. If she didn’t die in the apartment, it would be highly likely an abductor would have killed her because the media frenzy would have made it too difficult to hide her.

Pussyhands · 19-03-2019 11:27PM

It's surreal to see the McCanns aging over time. I know it happens but to think the footage etc is all from 10 years ago or whatever. Similar to seeing Avery age in prison.

RollieFingers · 19-03-2019 11:33PM

Pussyhands wrote: »

It's surreal to see the McCanns aging over time. I know it happens but to think the footage etc is all from 10 years ago or whatever. Similar to seeing Avery age in prison.

Also a bit mad how the copper Amaral looks physically better now than he does compared to when the investigation was taking place, he almost seemed younger during the interview to camera. Shows the stress they must have been under I guess.

The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann (Netflix)

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