Climate change protests

Thermometer based data from 1900. Hmmm.

12000 scientists signed a letter. Sorry, that is not science.

Yes I do believe humans are affecting the climate. However, the extent is not known and we don’t know the ratio of human/natural causes of climate change. The science is only starting and we need vast amounts of further data to understand what is happening. This stuff about we have only 12 years before we are doomed is just made up. Talk about conspiracy theories.

Gbear wrote: »

So you are a climate scientist and are basing this on your years of research to counter that of the thousands of other scientists, yes? Or are you just pulling this out of your hole?

Typical. Getting aggressive when challenged.

Deleted User wrote: »

A few satellite photos taken 30 years apart would provide plenty of evidence of the affects humans are having on the planet, just consider the millions of hectares of natural environment that has been destroyed worldwide since 1989. All of this destruction will have had an affect on the local climate in these areas, that is beyond doubt.

Yes, I agree.

wpd wrote: »

should start by banning private cars from giving kids lifts to school

Also take their phones and laptops from them no point talking the talk unless you are going to walk the walk.

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Yep the climate never before changed until now.

It changed never so quickly, with exception of global events like asteroids. But you know tgat

Muahahaha wrote: »

Yeah as soon as I clicked into this thread I knew there would be posters on here moaning that they are protesting. If people didn't protest then no political change would ever have happened, we woud be still living in the Dark Ages. Humanity would never have moved forward without people agitating for change. The attitude to protesting you see on here is best summarised as 'Man who has benefitted from other people protesting criticises more people protesting'

Fair play to them I say, Ireland is now one of the dirty men of Europe and will miss our Paris Agreement promises by a country mile. Its time the politicians woke up.

You need to look up what the dark ages were as they are not what you believe they are.

gozunda wrote: »

Read an account of this 'movement' here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAmmUIEsN9A

And then came across this thread...

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057964126/1/#post109666377

Interestingly it sounds like she details that her extreme concentration on this one issue is linked to her aspergers diagnosis. I dont doubt she is sincere in her beliefs - it's the other couple of million kids seizing this as a handy chance to bunk off school whilst doing a bit of virtue signaling on social media that I've trouble with tbh.

Can we just call her Pippy long stockings instead instead of Gunter or whatever her name is?

My former secondary school recently made a commitment to go 100% free of single use plastics. I won't name them here but they are the 1st school in Ireland to make this commitment out in public. Their campaign began by eliminating plastic cups & bottles from their canteen & replace it with drinking glasses and re-usable flasks/bottles. The people who organize this pledge make of the students & staff adhere to a pledge that bans bringing plastic cups & bottles onto the campus every day. They are also to reduce usage of single use plastic outside of school. This measure is also applied as a moral code to students when they leave school to go to work/college after doing their leaving cert.

It sounds like a very encouraging pledge for the staff & students while helping to reduce their impact on their environment.

But it sounds like a very small contribution when compared to the challenges out in the real world. If people, like those in school right now, become more influenced to begin other ways to help their environment. Other schools around the country are doing this pledge as well to reduce their need of plastic in the environment. But does it appear that reducing purchases of plastic becomes more impossible to manage in their personal lives especially if people are living in a poorer financial background?

When we talk about buying food & drink in supermarkets; you are faced with having to deal with buying some foods surrounded in plastics like dairy products, fruit & vegetables, meat & fish every time that you do your grocery shopping. For fruit & veg; you could easily say that you can pack loose variations of fruit & veg to put into supermarket trolley using other materials. But when faced bringing them to the till; is it easy for people to not pack their food in other materials other than using plastic. The supermarkets here are notorious for not offering alternative packaging options to customers who want to pick up fruit & veg from the supermarket shelves using other materials. The only bags on offer for customers to use to bring home fruit & veg for their supermarket shopping is plastic. No other options like paper bags are offered instead to reduce your usage of plastic.

If you try to use other options for buying your groceries through home delivery; does going onto a niche grocery purchase website not become an expensive option for people to do as a main part of their lifestyle. We have lots of people in this country who are low income groups who are entirely dependent on welfare who probably cannot afford this type of option in the long term as it does become quite expensive. Buying food & drink from a supermarket does sound like the only do-able & cheaper solution for them to not allow them starve in the long term.

There are other ways in how people in this country can try to address way in helping their environment. But these are things that we use for granted on a regular basis that does have some consequences that will us caught off guard. They are some good things to highlight too when using them. But I will write up this stuff for another time because there is a lot of information to get covered beforehand.

20Cent wrote: »

Younger people are far more ware of the environment in my experience. They are doing stuff like that. But substantial work has to be done at national levels and cooperation between countries.

Yeah right, they’ll be all back living like we did in the 70’s when they leave school.

Looks like our little climate angel isn’t all she’s cracked up to be.

https://www.thegwpf.com/greta-thunberg-pr-puppet-or-climate-figurehead/

Dakota Dan wrote: »

They are trying to say no rubbish left behind in Ireland unlike other countries that left the streets littered. I was outside a secondary school last week while they were on their lunch break, they all went down to the local shop that has everything ready for them and when they finished eating outside the school gate they dropped their rubbish on the ground. I find it very hard to believe that they all disposed of their rubbish properly after the protest here.

Yeah there is a lot to be done here and elsewhere, no one claims that it is a small task. Would you now say we should tackle the issues listed above or just give up and live our life happily after?

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Did you ever see the aftermath of electric picnic?
...

And these in the main are the 'young' people of Ireland...

The excuses why so much rubbish / good tents / sleeping bags / Wellingtons were thrown away beggrered belief

I attended concerts and festivals over many years and still have the (crap) tent from the very first festival I went to many decades ago. And our disposable generation are now screaming it's others fault?

"Young people of Ireland we love you"

:rolleyes: