Madeleine McCann

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Apparently its more common for abductors to go for little girls around maddys age.

She had a sister a year or so younger in the same room.

Look, I know what I am saying is verging on the awfulness of it all, but realistically, if someone wanted to do this, they could have taken all three in the space of a couple of minutes.

I do not believe there was any abduction.

iamwhoiam wrote: »

The first two sentences of which post are inaccurate ? Mine or yours ?

The mc Canns had not visited Praia da Luz prior to that holiday .
The apartment was not in an enclosed complex. Mark Warner in P da L is spread about over the village

And group mentality doesn't make it right . A whole group made a big mistake and it could well have been any one of them who lost a child

Group mentality does not make it right. Of course,you are correct but if either of us had been parents in a similar situation we may have acted in a similar fashion to the McCann's. Human beings are not computers, programmed to behave appropriately in all circumstances at all times. It's part of the human condition to make mistakes and misjudgements and sometimes these can lead to fatal consequences.

Trekker09 wrote: »

One of the points being put forward is that the human trafficking market is a multi-billion euro business. Children are taken to order, so someone wanted a child matching Madeleines attributes.

I give up.

Of all the kids in all the world it was Madeleine, sorry I don't believe it was thus.

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I give up.

Of all the kids in all the world it was Madeleine, sorry I don't believe it was thus.

I'd suggest googling child abduction and the reasons behind it. It's a massive business and wealthy childless couple are willing to pay huge amounts for a child.
This is just one reason for child abduction, the others are a lot more sinister for me to mention them here.

Trekker09 wrote: »

I'd suggest googling child abduction and the reasons behind it. It's a massive business and wealthy childless couple are willing to pay huge amounts for a child.
This is just one reason for child abduction, the others are a lot more sinister for me to mention them here.

I was referring to the theory that only one child was allegedly taken "to order", and why not all three. I shudder really TBH but the fact is, if such nefarious abductions actually happen (haven't heard of many in MSM tbh), then why not take the three children? That is the puzzle for me.

And that is also why I doubt there was any abduction at all really.

on episode 5, and it goes in circles just like here, i doubt how anyone could believe she would be alive 4 weeks after she was gone let alone 4 months or years.


Portuguese made a clear point to stove off media of any details etc, yet they published every minor detail, and within less then a week exploded into international news, if she was alive by any chance that definitely killed the child once it was broadcast worldwide as no one would carry that much risk and heat.


Also why did they go into all the PR spending millions to clear their name ?


innocent people wont flee country nor they will refuse to answer questions if they wanted their child found why not answer to what was asked and move focusing on search, instead once they were named suspected they took next flight home, even thou there was no proof of any kind, so why run ?


theres hundreds questions they never accounted nor answered leading to disappearance and after it, seems eventually they enjoyed more flying on private jet and getting funded for which turned out to be a lost cause.


Most amazing thing is that traveling with toddlers they didnt bother to take proper precautions as in using hotel services for care, rather doing negligence in foreign country they had no clue of, they left doors open and kids alone, i bet they wouldn't left wallets inside open apartment and go drink for the night yet they had no issues with leaving 3 kids which is mind numbing.


As what they did is nothing short of contributing to child's disappearance.



Even guy running interpol agency said he didnt like vibe of Gery.

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Honestly? The other two kids were oblivious to all the commotion. It would have been a doddle with an accomplice.

There was no abduction. IMV.

No , honestly it wouldn't . Even with two people carrying and hiding one child had got to be easier with one . Even going to the shops on a normal day in normal life is easier with one rather three

Trekker09 wrote: »

If there was no abduction then what do you think happened?

The three kids were administered sleepy anti histamines. Like Piriton. Not illegal at all.

1.Madeleine woke up groggy and looked for her parents. The twins were in cots, she was in a bed. She staggered out one of the many unlocked doors to find them and was knocked down by a car. Local driver disposed of the evidence. She was 3.5 years old FGS.

2. She woke up groggy etc. and went into the living room where she fell off the couch and had a fatal head injury. Cover up.

3. She woke and wandered and fell in to the sea or roadworks or whatever.

What do YOU think happened? Abduction is the least possible outcome IMV.

Trekker09 wrote: »

I'd suggest googling child abduction and the reasons behind it. It's a massive business and wealthy childless couple are willing to pay huge amounts for a child.
This is just one reason for child abduction, the others are a lot more sinister for me to mention them here.

For these type of issues Google is most likley not your friend ...

From the Sunday Independent Article of today

DCI Sutton (ex Scotland Yard) believes that while theories about child trafficking and targeted abduction might make for spine-tingling drama, they are always the least likley hypotheses with these cases. "I understand that the notion that there are these predatory groups who are stealing children is something that is attractive in terms of selling newspapers and TV programmes, but I'm not sure in the real world how common an occurrence that is"

........also, when my kids were that age and we were away, we never had any problem getting them to sleep. Sea air, loads of activity etc, they were out as soon as their head hit the pillow

Trekker09 wrote: »

........also, when my kids were that age and we were away, we never had any problem getting them to sleep. Sea air, loads of activity etc, they were out as soon as their head hit the pillow

no sea air or activities. or at least very little. they spent most of the time at a creche

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

She had a sister a year or so younger in the same room.

Look, I know what I am saying is verging on the awfulness of it all, but realistically, if someone wanted to do this, they could have taken all three in the space of a couple of minutes.

I do not believe there was any abduction.

The abductor stepped into the room put his hand over sleeping Maddie’s mouth and nose and stepped back out and down the steps. It took seconds. You are insisting that that couldn’t possibly have happened on the grounds that it was even easier for him to take all three children what with him having 6 arms and all.
You have to discount the abductor theory because you have to in order to make your “the parents did it” theory seem plausible even though you can’t give a timeline to the parents doing it without introducing the most ludicrous laughable scenarios.

Enjoying it so far but they could have condensed it to 4 episodes.

Ah look, in fairness this mystery has been going on for years. It is inevitable that people with theorise since there are so many holes in the abduction theory anyway, IMV of course before y'all descend on me!

splinter65 wrote: »

The abductor stepped into the room put his hand over sleeping Maddie’s mouth and nose and stepped back out and down the steps. It took seconds. You are insisting that that couldn’t possibly have happened on the grounds that it was even easier for him to take all three children what with him having 6 arms and all.
You have to discount the abductor theory because you have to in order to make your “the parents did it” theory seem plausible even though you can’t give a timeline to the parents doing it without introducing the most ludicrous laughable scenarios.

Could have taken the sister, no need for hand over mouth to keep her quiet, she and her brother were zonked anyway, and slept through the resulting mayhem.

If an abductor was the reason, and they had researched the situation, an accomplice or two would achieve the abduction of three kids in two minutes.

Sorry I am very annoyed at those saying the three kids could never have been taken by one person. There could have been more than one. But anyway, IMV it is all bobblycocks anyway.