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Kildare People's Sleep Being Disturbed by AN-12

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  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭colbarr


    Trebor176 wrote: »

    That's some top notch reporting there, does anybody know the guy who hands out the Pulitzer prize or whatever the equivalent is for journalism?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    When is the next scheduled flight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭john boye


    What an odd report. It's not based on any actual complaints about the flights, just someone explaining what they are with quotes which are most likely made up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    I’d get out of the bed to see it. Ah well horses for courses. When’s the next one?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,847 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    How do the crew put up with the noise, is there soundproofing in the cockpit?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,185 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    roadmaster wrote: »
    How do the crew put up with the noise, is there soundproofing in the cockpit?

    This was my thought when I heard it fly over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭lintdrummer


    roadmaster wrote: »
    How do the crew put up with the noise, is there soundproofing in the cockpit?

    Bose_A20_environmental1-280x280.jpg?v=1395439042


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    Bose headsets are top of the range and expensive. Russian (insert eastern european nationality) aircrew tend not to have them, as a result, as they also tend to be underpaid compared to Western airline crews. Antonov 12 crews tend to look like sheepherders. An An 12 that attended Dublin lately had the crew sleeping inside; the refueller had to wake them to get them to set up the fuel system for topping up.

    regards
    Stovepipe


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    Stovepipe wrote: »
    Bose headsets are top of the range and expensive. Russian (insert eastern european nationality) aircrew tend not to have them, as a result, as they also tend to be underpaid compared to Western airline crews. Antonov 12 crews tend to look like sheepherders. An An 12 that attended Dublin lately had the crew sleeping inside; the refueller had to wake them to get them to set up the fuel system for topping up.

    regards
    Stovepipe

    What nonsense did I just read? :confused::confused: Have you ever actually flown with eastern europeans? I did my flight training in eastern europe and the eastern instructors and students had top of the range bose headsets and other kit that i coming from ireland wasn't even able to afford.

    Not all eastern european pilots live the youtube congo cargo life you seem to have in mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    This is quite a good video of an An-12 operation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i721IEIGDsU


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,266 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Caught this in Bangor Maine yesterday


  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Caught this in Bangor Maine yesterday

    UR-CNT

    This aircraft receives the Jim Jefferies seal of approval.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,266 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    This is a different aircraft and I climbed onboard in Kuwait.

    32887968293_b25df6b7fe_c.jpg

    Look at the radio operators headset.

    33701327775_249a8ae07b_c.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    1123heavy wrote: »
    What nonsense did I just read? :confused::confused: Have you ever actually flown with eastern europeans? I did my flight training in eastern europe and the eastern instructors and students had top of the range bose headsets and other kit that i coming from ireland wasn't even able to afford.

    Not all eastern european pilots live the youtube congo cargo life you seem to have in mind.

    I somewhat agree with his comments having dealt with Antonov crews for almost 20 years now. Dealt with the AN-124 crews years ago and they would arrive into DUB with no hi-viz vests or ear defenders. All of them looked like goat herders no word of a lie.

    I know these comments don't apply to modern commercial Russian and ex russian airlines but certainly the antonov cargo flights always had poor resources and very dishevelled looking crews.


  • Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭BZ


    sparrowcar wrote: »
    I somewhat agree with his comments having dealt with Antonov crews for almost 20 years now. Dealt with the AN-124 crews years ago and they would arrive into DUB with no hi-viz vests or ear defenders. All of them looked like goat herders no word of a lie.

    I know these comments don't apply to modern commercial Russian and ex russian airlines but certainly the antonov cargo flights always had poor resources and very dishevelled looking crews.

    AN-124 crews have come a long way. Fully kitted out in full PPE and dressed immaculately and always very polite and professional.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    BZ wrote: »
    AN-124 crews have come a long way. Fully kitted out in full PPE and dressed immaculately and always very polite and professional.

    I'm sure you're right. Its been a few years since since I've been out to one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    i call bull on the story ive been doing security since last October at weekends near maynooth i do a patrol at midnight each night and never heard it:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    smurfjed wrote: »
    This is a different aircraft and I climbed onboard in Kuwait.

    32887968293_b25df6b7fe_c.jpg

    Look at the radio operators headset.

    33701327775_249a8ae07b_c.jpg

    Those are the headsets I saw on the AN-12 crew. Very old design and certainly not Boses. I was nearby in my company's uniform and was asked by the refueller, a friend, to provide mobile steps, because the crew wanted to check the oil. We are not allowed to give free access to our steps so I rang our office and they declined, saying that another well-known Dublin ground handling agency was "handling" the Antonov, so I had to decline. The handling agency was nowhere to be seen for quite a while so I had to chance to have a good look over the Antonov. Only the Captain wore anything resembling a uniform (a Captain's cap and four bars) and the rest were snugly wrapped in several layers of a mix of civilian and work clothing. No hi viz vest, except on the Captain. I've seen quite a few of those cargo aircraft from various countries (An-12, An-72, An-124) in Dublin and the crews all looked the same; one aircraft had a domestic fridge inside, bungeed to the side of the cargo compartment. They all had spare wheels, chocks, towbars, blocks of wood, toolboxes and the crew's personal gear tucked into every available spot. Also, they all smoked, in and around the aircraft, despite being told that the Dub Airport police would bollock them, so they would simply smoke inside and ignore the police. Apart from that, they are usually friendly and usually allow you inside for a look if you ask.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    EchoIndia wrote: »
    This is quite a good video of an An-12 operation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i721IEIGDsU

    Very cool pilot his face has not changed in the whole video guess he is well used the flying this aircraft


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    When's the next one due.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    When's the next one due.

    UR-CNT (AN 12) over London now inbound Shannon. Should pass over the Wexford area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Snowc


    When's the next one due.

    I hope you don't work for that "news" site ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,474 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Surely it would be much noisier and noticeable around the limerick Clare Tipp areas when coming in for landing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,474 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    She’s just coming in near Wexford now if anyone down that way...looks like it’ll skirt across over south Tipp and into SNN


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,929 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Snowc wrote: »
    I hope you don't work for that "news" site ;)
    Very much looks like a 1-2 person blog site.


  • Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Salmon Leap


    Article is a steaming pile of p**. I've lived in Leixlip for almost 20 years and never been woken by any aircraft other than the Copper Chopper searching somewhere near the canal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 386 ✭✭Zirconia
    Boycott Israeli Goods & Services


    I live in the Midlands and AN12 going over at cruising altitude here does create a noticeable racket; far noisier than other aircraft and enough to cause harmonic oscillations of household fixtures and fittings.
    I verified the aircraft type on multiple occasions after being disturbed via the Flightradar24 app.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    Snowc wrote: »
    I hope you don't work for that "news" site ;)

    No just live in the north Kildare area
    Only woke me up once must of been directly over head
    But it's be great to be awake to hear it approaching if I knew in advance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭eusap


    On the 08/03 March a AN112 UR-CGV Flew over Clane/Prosperous/Allen around 00:30 it actually sounded like an Artic Truck driving by the front window for 45 secs. It was a very clear night so I guess didn't help with Noise.

    Being a plane nut I had to look it up to see what it was, anyone know what they are carrying?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭RadioRetro


    UR-CNT (AN 12) over London now inbound Shannon. Should pass over the Wexford area

    Oh boy did it ever. About 9.20pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,474 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    How often does she fly into SNN? Would love to catch a glimpse and hear her


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭gman2k


    I was hoping to catch it, but of course when I remembered it was about 20min too late!
    Let me know if there is another due!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    eusap wrote: »
    On the 08/03 March a AN112 UR-CGV Flew over Clane/Prosperous/Allen around 00:30 it actually sounded like an Artic Truck driving by the front window for 45 secs. It was a very clear night so I guess didn't help with Noise.

    Being a plane nut I had to look it up to see what it was, anyone know what they are carrying?

    The last one I was in was on a horse contract. the ramp makes it easy to get horses aboard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭LeChienMefiant


    Stovepipe wrote: »
    The last one I was in was on a horse contract. the ramp makes it easy to get horses aboard.

    Horses must love the noise!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭martinsvi


    Stovepipe wrote: »
    Bose headsets are top of the range and expensive. Russian (insert eastern european nationality) aircrew tend not to have them, as a result, as they also tend to be underpaid compared to Western airline crews. Antonov 12 crews tend to look like sheepherders. An An 12 that attended Dublin lately had the crew sleeping inside; the refueller had to wake them to get them to set up the fuel system for topping up.

    regards
    Stovepipe

    An-24 pilot pay these days go for around 12-18k a month in Africa. There are not that many pilots around anymore for these aircraft, so the salaries are going up. They are definitely not underpaid.. They just have a certain "life-style"


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    Is that the Twat of a TD Murphy that tried to get Weston shut down?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭rameire


    Horses must love the noise!

    The horses wear Bose headsets.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    roundymac wrote: »
    Is that the Twat of a TD Murphy that tried to get Weston shut down?

    I wonder if TV presenter Alan Partridge could organise a fly-in of as many elderly Eastern European Turbo-Props as possible....centre the event over the Curragh and fan out from there...preferably with a midnight,full-power group flypast ....just a thought ? ;)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    AN 12,UR-CEZ just departed Shannon.should pass over midlands and dublin soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭john boye


    Unbelievable sound considering it's at fl220


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭gman2k


    On enroute to Shannon right now, just flew over south KK, unreal volume for 28k feet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,474 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    In north Kilkenny here and could hear the humm miles off! She’s going to Shannon now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭gman2k


    Newcastle West and Foynes will soon be deafened


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭mlumley


    Would'nt bother me, it's the bl**dy bin men at 5.30 in the morning I cant stand.


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