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Madeleine McCann

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  • #2552
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)
    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Why are you here discussing it, if you think chat rooms are so bad? that is exactly what is going on here, if you don't mind me saying so. Log out if you feel uncomfortable about free speech.

    Chat rooms are great. Witch hunts are not. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. No one is entitled to have that opinion unchallenged.


  • #2553
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    splinter65 wrote:
    Any drugs in their system would have been still in their hair 6 months later, otherwise what would be the point in testing? Just saying.


    Depends on what drugs are used. One particular drug that is used as a sedative is undetectable after 28 days. Just saying.


  • #2554
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    cnocbui wrote:
    I think I have just solved the CO2 global warming problem. No need for Fusion reactors to be perfected in 30 years time - just round up all the anti McCanners - similar energy potential to ant-matter - and put them all in a large chamber with display screens with constantly scrolling McCann case theories and trivia and then just harness the heat given off.


    Same could be said for the people that see the McCanns as saints.


  • #2555
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    bubblypop wrote:
    I have already stated that they behaved very irresponsibly.


    ...and Madeline is the victim of their irresponsibility.


  • #2556
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)
    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Depends on what drugs are used. One particular drug that is used as a sedative is undetectable after 28 days. Just saying.


    What drug is that and was it found in the McCanns apartment? In fact, was any evidence of sedatives found in the apartment at all?


    I remember there being bogus reports of a syringe being found, but no actual evidence at all.


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  • #2557
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Depends on what drugs are used. One particular drug that is used as a sedative is undetectable after 28 days. Just saying.


    Interesting.


    So it's possible they could have been drugged and the testing was done so late the drug had was not detectable.


    So no proof they didn't drug the kids.


  • #2558
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)
    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Depends on what drugs are used. One particular drug that is used as a sedative is undetectable after 28 days. Just saying.

    No trace of any drugs were found in the twins within the recognized testing time frame. Just saying.


  • #2559
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    ...and Madeline is the victim of their irresponsibility.

    No, she is the victim of whoever is responsible for her disappearance.
    The offender in a crime, is the person responsible.
    That's it.


  • #2560
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    dark crystal wrote:
    What drug is that and was it found in the McCanns apartment? In fact, was any evidence of sedatives found in the apartment at all?


    Diazipene, I'm not suggesting this was used on the twins just pointing out that not all drugs can be detected up to 6 months.


  • #2561
    Trekker09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭Trekker09


    So, they made a bad judgement and went across the road to a tapas bar for a bite to eat and a couple of glasses of wine with friends. I've seen this loads of times on holiday, even after the Madeleine McCann disappearance.

    They'll live with this for the rest of their lives, and I for one hope they get closure on this one way or the other.


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  • #2562
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)
    limnam wrote: »
    Interesting.


    So it's possible they could have been drugged and the testing was done so late the drug had was not detectable.


    So no proof they didn't drug the kids.

    No. They were tested within the globally recognized testing time frame. No drugs were found. Fact.


  • #2563
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    splinter65 wrote:
    No trace of any drugs were found in the twins within the recognized testing time frame. Just saying.


    The twins were tested 5 months after the disappearance as already said by me not all drugs are detectable up to to a multi month timeframe. Again reading comprehension seems to beyond your grasp, but it's ok I have unlimited patience.


  • #2564
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)
    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Diazipene, I'm not suggesting this was used on the twins just pointing out that not all drugs can be detected up to 6 months.

    Are you alleging that diazepams were found in the apartment?


  • #2565
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    bubblypop wrote:
    No, she is the victim of whoever is responsible for her disappearance. The offender in a crime, is the person responsible. That's it.


    Her parents left her unattended and unprotected so bare some responsibility for her disappearance. Glad we agree.


  • #2566
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    splinter65 wrote:
    Are you alleging that diazepams were found in the apartment?

    Plumbthedepths wrote:
    Diazipene, I'm not suggesting this was used on the twins just pointing out that not all drugs can be detected up to 6 months.


    I put my comment with yours to help your reading difficulties.


  • #2567
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,129 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    bubblypop wrote: »
    No, she is the victim of whoever is responsible for her disappearance.
    The offender in a crime, is the person responsible.
    That's it.

    So in your opinion who do you think is responsible?

    I bet you will say the abductor. For whom there is no evidence. But the doors were open.

    But anyway, the parents of a child are supposed to be the responsible parents for everything up until the child reaches 18. And I do realise that some kids can go off the rails prior to that.

    But at 3.5 years old and twins of 2 years, well sorry now, but to leave them alone night after night while on the lash is kind of a tad irresponsible. I think most people would agree with me. I think!


  • #2568
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)
    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Her parents left her unattended and unprotected so bare some responsibility for her disappearance. Glad we agree.

    No. Whoever abducted her and killed her is responsible for her death, if she is dead.


  • #2569
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    splinter65 wrote:
    No. Whoever abducted her and killed her is responsible for her death, if she is dead.


    Would they have been able to abduct her( if that is what happened, no evidence though) the night of May 3 if Mummy and Daddy had not left her unprotected?


  • #2570
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Her parents left her unattended and unprotected so bare some responsibility for her disappearance. Glad we agree.

    We don't agree.
    The person responsible is the person that 'dissapeared ' her. Whoever that may be.
    Parents were irresponsible leaving kids alone, however, they are not to blame for her disappearance because of this.
    The offender is responsible.
    We don't agree.


  • #2571
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)
    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I put my comment with yours to help your reading difficulties.

    But why mention diazepams if they have no relevance to the evidence in the case? Unless there is evidence that there were at least diazepam in the apt then they’re totally irrelevant. A red herring, you might say....


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  • #2572
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    bubblypop wrote:
    We don't agree. The person responsible is the person that 'dissapeared ' her. Whoever that may be. Parents were irresponsible leaving kids alone, however, they are not to blame for her disappearance because of this. The offender is responsible. We don't agree.


    Her parents left her unprotected, thereby allowing what happened to occur.


  • #2573
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    So in your opinion who do you think is responsible?

    I bet you will say the abductor./quote]

    You bet wrong.
    The offender is responsible. Whoever that may be. The person who caused her to disappear.


  • #2574
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Her parents left her unprotected, thereby allowing what happened to occur.

    You don't know that. & it doesn't make them responsible.
    What part of the offender is responsible don't you agree with?


  • #2575
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Plumbthedepths wrote:
    Depends on what drugs are used. One particular drug that is used as a sedative is undetectable after 28 days. Just saying.

    Plumbthedepths wrote:
    Diazipene, I'm not suggesting this was used on the twins just pointing out that not all drugs can be detected up to 6 months.

    splinter65 wrote:
    But why mention diazepams if they have no relevance to the evidence in the case? Unless there is evidence that there were at least diazepam in the apt then they’re totally irrelevant. A red herring, you might say....


    Just to help your reading difficulties again.


  • #2576
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    bubblypop wrote:
    You don't know that. & it doesn't make them responsible. What part of the offender is responsible don't you agree with?


    If course I know that as the parents admitted they left her alone and they also admitted a door to the apartment was unlocked. Btw there is no evidence of an 'offender'.


  • #2577
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)
    Trekker09 wrote: »
    So, they made a bad judgement and went across the road to a tapas bar for a bite to eat and a couple of glasses of wine with friends. I've seen this loads of times on holiday, even after the Madeleine McCann disappearance.

    They'll live with this for the rest of their lives, and I for one hope they get closure on this one way or the other.

    As a matter if interest where have you seen this behaviour loads ?
    Never in my life have I seen or heard from anyone who knows anyone who would do that . I very much doubt its loads actually


  • #2578
    [Deleted User]
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    If course I know that as the parents admitted they left her alone and they also admitted a door to the apartment was unlocked. Btw there is no evidence of an 'offender'.

    Unless the child wandered off alone & got lost somewhere never to be found, then yes there is an offender.


  • #2579
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)
    bubblypop wrote: »
    You don't know that. & it doesn't make them responsible.
    What part of the offender is responsible don't you agree with?

    What offender ?


  • #2580
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)
    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Just to help your reading difficulties again.

    I don’t have any reading difficulties. You meaninglessly and irrelevantly brought the drug diazepam into the thread and you can’t explain why. That is all.


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  • #2581
    [Deleted User]
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    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    What offender ?

    Whoever it was that caused her to disappear.


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