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Is Boards.ie complicit?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    OP has left the building but will rereg soon, and thus become part what he described as a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,540 ✭✭✭emo72


    If the left wasnt so overbearingly pontificating these days there would be no right.

    The left is even pushing lefties to the right.

    Happy Saint Patrick's Day everybody!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,426 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    The politics forum is a waste for the most part. Interesting topics are buried with pages after pages of posters responding to the same old bollox from reregs. As I’ve pointed out a few times, new accounts can’t post rubbish about Liverpool, Man U etc on the soccer forum, but spreading toxic ideological ****e on politics is grand. There seems to be zero desire to counter it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Who ever came up with the idea of Thanks should be banned for life from boards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭corks finest


    TBH you're always going to get a dolly mixture of ppl on a forum such as this( ignore function needed) but personally I find boards informative- interesting- great craic at times,and v helpful


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    VeryTerry wrote: »
    Some of us have been here for over a decade under various usernames. Personally I was here for the Phantom fm sub forum, some were here for Quake or whatever.

    Now it's full of reregs and extremists. It's a done duck as far as I can see. Full of people on the wind up.

    You're being a bit hard on yourself OP. There's no evidence that you're an extremist


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    TBH you're always going to get a dolly mixture of ppl on a forum such as this( ignore function needed) but personally I find boards informative- interesting- great craic at times,and v helpful

    There is an ignore function for posters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭corks finest


    The politics forum is a waste for the most part. Interesting topics are buried with pages after pages of posters responding to the same old bollox from reregs. As I’ve pointed out a few times, new accounts can’t post rubbish about Liverpool, Man U etc on the soccer forum, but spreading toxic ideological ****e on politics is grand. There seems to be zero desire to counter it.


    Called democracy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,369 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Strange thread.

    Always wondered why people felt they were important enough to announce their account closure

    There is a word for it. And some Chat Forums even have a whole culture around it and being highly amused by it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Checkmate19


    Forums wont exist in a couple of years as it will take to many mods to police as you wont be able to say anything. It's like comedy. The reason its gone **** is people take offence to easily nowadays. The minute you mention anything wayward someone finds offence and your gone. There is going to be little point for board's etc in a few years as your going to have one giant mod just in case of getting sued. The way the world is going.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    emo72 wrote: »
    If the left wasnt so overbearingly pontificating these days there would be no right.

    The left is even pushing lefties to the right.

    Happy Saint Patrick's Day everybody!

    I've always been a leftie, even far leftie tbh (check my posting history as far back as the late 2000s if ye want evidence) but I completely and totally agree with this statement. The alt-left as I like to call it, or the SJW-left as it's often described, adopted an extremely toxic "you either agree with us 100% or you're a worthless subhuman piece of sh!t" attitude towards political opposition, and the utter intolerance of dissent is so infuriatingly arrogant that many former lefties I know now identify as conservative. To take one ludicrous example, in the 1990s and the 2000s, the left advocated for unfettered free speech while the right opposed it on religions / family / sexual morality grounds, and since the early 2010s, this has flipped around entirely, with the left now supporting large scale censorship and promoting the idea that "wrongthink" is an actual thing that exists and should be punished, while the right now cries for freedom of expression as they are currently the ones being denied it.

    I've probably posted this anecdote too often, but I predicted the victory of both Brexit and Trump long before either was taken seriously as a realistic possibility by the media (we're talking Autumn 2015 or even earlier) - solely on the grounds that the mainstream left had no actual positive arguments in favour of either Remain or Clinton respectively, it was just "do what we tell you, or it means you're a geriatric, racist, uneducated, ignorant and worthless human being". In my view, nothing exemplified how much the mainstream left lost touch with political freedom than all the commentary on social media the day after Brexit passed, blaming the Boomer generation and actually suggesting that "there should be an upper age limit to vote in referenda because old people won't live long enough to suffer the consequences" and other such vile "we lost and didn't have a majority, so let's change the rules to make sure we win next time even if we still don't have a majority" bullsh!t.

    It really saddens me that this is how everything has ended up. I hate the fact that I have to come across as constantly taking the side of the alt-right just because it's become so unthinkable to suggest that they are entitled to set out their stall and express their political beliefs without consequence or persecution, just like everyone else. That should be an extremely basic tenet of a democratic society, not a controversial notion which results in drama and accusations of actually supporting the views one merely defends the right of others to hold.

    The funny thing is, this is often dismissed as "ah you're just getting more conservative as you're getting older" but it's not the case, as the content of my (and other lefties in a similar position) beliefs hasn't actually changed at all. The only thing that's changed is the political alignment of those views - what used to be endorsed by the left and attacked by the right is now attacked by the left and endorsed by the right. And that's bizarre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,923 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    There is an ignore function for posters.

    Doesn't work on the app, unfortunately.

    I can kind of see some of the OP's point; Boards definitely isn't what it used to be and re-reg trolls are a huge issue, imo. Don't agree that we're all hiding behind various name changes, though. I'm here well over ten years and this is only my second account. And the only reason I closed my original one is that someone in my job at the time recognised me and caused quite a bit of trouble for me.

    A lot of the forums are dying on their feet but I'm not really sure what can be done about it, tbh. The re-regs generally aren't a problem in the quieter forums, people just aren't visiting the site/posting anymore. I think loads of people just never came back after the DDoS attack a few years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Then leave. Plenty of other places to go that might suit you better.

    The irony of calling out re-regs is startling when the rest of your post is taken into account. Also, did you just create this thread to have a go at Wibbs? Seems you couldn't wait to name drop him. In a thread complaining about "extremists", you pick out a very reasonable poster. It's all a bit sad and bitter.

    I do not believe that the thread was created to have a go at Wibbs. To me it smacked of an extremist on the left trying to lay some blame on Boards.ie for what happened in New Zealand. It's the usual innuendo that the OP and other extreme leftists try to do. Dav3 is another example of a poster using this tactic when he made veiled threats against Boards administrators and mods for allowing contentious topics to be discussed.

    I call posters like VeryTerry, Dav3 and the rest of that clique extremists because they absolutely HATE the fact that we have an opportunity to express a view that is contrary to their stance on social/political issues. They want to completely shut down any conversations that may question the rationale of left-oriented policies. The Irish media, and especially RTE and the Irish Times have collectively made it impossible for the populace to express views that is not consistent with leftist ideologies.

    So yes, Boards.ie is complicit in giving all of us a voice, but Boards.ie is not complicit in what happened in New Zealand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    VeryTerry wrote: »
    Wibbs will be along in a minute for a long winded lecture about how his culture is superior to others and everyone will seal clap along like little *****.

    That sums up much of what is wrong here. Not Wibbs, but you calling him out so you can have a moan about nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    VeryTerry wrote: »
    . No one is still on their first account
    .

    You're more than a little wrong with that assertion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    People calling out other people who haven't even posted in a thread is cowardly. It's goading, it's baiting, it's harassment and it is something that is continually allowed without any clear moderation or guidelines. So for something like the above, the moderators are 100% complicit, it's something that is starting to get out of control.

    For most things though, the issues don't lie with the moderators, but the people actually running the website. If these people aren't open to change or accepting feedback, there's not much future for them.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I've always been a leftie, even far leftie tbh (check my posting history as far back as the late 2000s if ye want evidence) but I completely and totally agree with this statement. The alt-left as I like to call it, or the SJW-left as it's often described, adopted an extremely toxic "you either agree with us 100% or you're a worthless subhuman piece of sh!t" attitude towards political opposition, and the utter intolerance of dissent is so infuriatingly arrogant that many former lefties I know now identify as conservative. To take one ludicrous example, in the 1990s and the 2000s, the left advocated for unfettered free speech while the right opposed it on religions / family / sexual morality grounds, and since the early 2010s, this has flipped around entirely, with the left now supporting large scale censorship and promoting the idea that "wrongthink" is an actual thing that exists and should be punished, while the right now cries for freedom of expression as they are currently the ones being denied it.
    If I could thank your post more than once I would HP. Nails a helluva lot of how I feel about the subject. Particularly the above part. Wrongthink is very much in play and like you note very much a reversal of previous.

    Though that's almost always the case historically when any ideology that starts off in the minority gains the upper hand. It initially fights for the right for all ideologies to be heard, "free speech" and all that, hoping and counting on a rising tide that floats their boat that little bit higher in the water, but once it is heard and it gets comfortable in the conviction it is the only "right thinking" way, it then fights for the suppression of contrary voices. Until the next ideology comes along and they never comprehend that they become the midwife for that next ideology. They don't even spot the labour pangs. Rinse and repeat.

    I wouldn't describe myself as a "leftie", but I'm not a "righty" either. For the most part a centrist with Left leanings, but with a particular distrust bordering on antagonism towards identity politics and a major distrust of so called libertarianism imported from the US.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Fifty grades of shay.


    Wibbs wrote: »
    If I could thank your post more than once I would HP. Nails a helluva lot of how I feel about the subject. Particularly the above part. Wrongthink is very much in play and like you note very much a reversal of previous.

    Though that's almost always the case historically when any ideology that starts off in the minority gains the upper hand. It initially fights for the right for all ideologies to be heard, "free speech" and all that, hoping and counting on a rising tide that floats their boat that little bit higher in the water, but once it is heard and it gets comfortable in the conviction it is the only "right thinking" way, it then fights for the suppression of contrary voices. Until the next ideology comes along and they never comprehend that they become the midwife for that next ideology. They don't even spot the labour pangs. Rinse and repeat.

    I wouldn't describe myself as a "leftie", but I'm not a "righty" either. For the most part a centrist with Left leanings, but with a particular distrust bordering on antagonism towards identity politics and a major distrust of so called libertarianism imported from the US.

    Holy moly, you're a Fianna Failer!
    Edit, and maybe a Catholic too.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    dav3 wrote: »
    For most things though, the issues don't lie with the moderators, but the people actually running the website. If these people aren't open to change or accepting feedback, there's not much future for them.
    **[Translation]** Change and feedback that suits you. The site has had many changes and the vast bulk of them came from feedback from the users. Just because you don't like some of them, doesn't negate that. Though down the years I've noted both as a user and a mod of a few forums, no matter what direction you take you will never please a small cohort of people, even if you accede to their feedback and change things to their way.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭Tacklebox


    I'm just an observer, who uses his vote to get an extra tenner in his pocket.
    Survival of the fittest.
    Living from day to day.

    Politics, religion and sociology ain't my thing.

    Sorry I hope I'm not derailing the thread I was responding to political leanings...


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  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dav3 wrote: »
    People calling out other people who haven't even posted in a thread is cowardly. It's goading, it's baiting, it's harassment

    Good to see that you agree that the person calling out Wibbs was very cowardly.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Holy moly, you're a Fianna Failer!
    Edit, and maybe a Catholic too.
    Nope on the first one in a big way. None of the Irish political parties interest me TBH, many cheeks of the same arse. When I vote I tend to vote "local" and by candidate. Background wise I'd have Catholic and CofI, but am 100% agnostic, though don't have the hate hard on for religion that some have. If gun to my head I had to pick one of the Christian sects, I'd probably vote for Catholic though(wider European sort, rather than the rain soaked dour Irish sort). It's proven itself adaptable over time, unlike the harder line Protestant stuff. Generally far better art, music, philosophy and science too.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1 sebastian zoe


    Boards of a feather flock together, the site is one big clique, you do not allow new members here who do not agree with the viewpoint of the clique.
    Certain subjects are sacred cows, there can be no debate about them, the mods have decided they and the clique are 100% correct and no alternative opinion will be allowed.
    You all know this to be true but won’t do anything about it, hence the dwindling popularity of the site.

    Observe as i get banned for this innocuous but truthful post


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Good to see that you agree that the person calling out Wibbs was very cowardly.
    Ah I dunno O. No issue at my end anyway. I've been called worse. :D

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,719 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Wonder is OP the same Terry who was a very prominent poster and used to post under a username beginning with J...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭Tacklebox


    fullstop wrote: »
    Wonder is OP the same Terry who was a very prominent poster and used to post under a username beginning with J...

    JC remember that poster, just when you said J they came to mind...

    I had great laugh's when they were debating, definitely a comedian.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Boards of a feather flock together, the site is one big clique, you do not allow new members here who do not agree with the viewpoint of the clique.
    Certain subjects are sacred cows, there can be no debate about them, the mods have decided they and the clique are 100% correct and no alternative opinion will be allowed.
    You all know this to be true but won’t do anything about it, hence the dwindling popularity of the site.

    Observe as i get banned for this innocuous but truthful post

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Fifty grades of shay.


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Nope on the first one in a big way. None of the Irish political parties interest me TBH, many cheeks of the same arse. When I vote I tend to vote "local" and by candidate. Background wise I'd have Catholic and CofI, but am 100% agnostic, though don't have the hate hard on for religion that some have. If gun to my head I had to pick one of the Christian sects, I'd probably vote for Catholic though(wider European sort, rather than the rain soaked dour Irish sort). It's proven itself adaptable over time, unlike the harder line Protestant stuff. Generally far better art, music, philosophy and science too.

    I was only joking, should have put in a smiley.
    I m not aware of your posting history at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭Tacklebox


    Boards of a feather flock together, the site is one big clique, you do not allow new members here who do not agree with the viewpoint of the clique.
    Certain subjects are sacred cows, there can be no debate about them, the mods have decided they and the clique are 100% correct and no alternative opinion will be allowed.
    You all know this to be true but won’t do anything about it, hence the dwindling popularity of the site.

    Observe as i get banned for this innocuous but truthful post

    I just stay out of politics religion and sociology, as much as I can unless I have my fact's absolutely right.

    Trying not to use my emotions and mix it up with opinions then I'm liable for the dungeon.

    It's not easy sometimes but it's good to be able to have self control, survival of the fittest and all that...

    My new CEO suggested working smarter is better than working harder, it set a seed in me...


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I was only joking, should have put in a smiley.
    Well when you go around accusing people of being Fianna Faillers. :eek::D
    I m not aware of your posting history at all.
    Long winded bollocks pretty much covers it F.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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