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Climate change protests

  • 15-03-2019 7:00pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭


    Will they be another brief flash in the pan like the abandoned Occupy Movement or the start of something more serious?

    Will politicians take any notice? I doubt it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Teachers telling us all how to live as usual.

    Look at the gubernment mainly ex teachers and they're telling us what to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 382 ✭✭Giveaway


    Teachers telling us all how to live as usual.

    Look at the gubernment mainly ex teachers and they're telling us what to do.

    Listened to some of the kids on rte news. Yes there opinions were a s vacuous and uninformed as one would expect from a bunch of clowns who came up with a new excuse for going mitching in dublin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Protesting has turned into a vanity affair with people posting up videos on their Facebook and Instagram of them thinking they are great sticking it to the man, all for attention of course.

    Protests everyday now about silly stuff,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭wpd


    should start by banning private cars from giving kids lifts to school


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Great to see young people standing up for their futures. Fair play to them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Whats funny here is you have a pack of students fighting climate change holding the city up for ransom with hundreds of cars left sitting idol, Thats worse... Slow clap...


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,863 ✭✭✭buried


    Let them wait until they got to actually pay taxes in order to live. Including this carbon tax they want. Once that craic hits they'll be protesting the fact they did this protest.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    I saw them interviewing students on the news. One in particular was hilarious. She said "Soon we'll all be yellow and brown and black. Is this the Ireland we want to grow up in?". I was wondering if these was protesting climate change or immigrants! Obviously, I knew it was slightly out of context (I think she was trying to say we should be going green), but you could have been mistaken the girl for a white supremacist if you weren't paying attention. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,316 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    20Cent wrote: »
    Great to see young people standing up for their futures. Fair play to them.

    Now now. That doesnt suit the auld grumps here.

    They'll have their fun and thats all that matters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭orourkeda1977


    f*ck the environment.

    I'm going to the pub.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Fifty grades of shay.


    Protesting has turned into a vanity affair with people posting up videos on their Facebook and Instagram of them thinking they are great sticking it to the man, all for attention of course.

    Protests everyday now about silly stuff,

    So climate change is silly stuff!
    No wonder we are so behind on this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 382 ✭✭Giveaway


    if those kids were serious about saving the environment they would give up their smartphones, walk or cycle to school and start growing their own food. They could have planted their GAA pitch with spuds this afternoon instead of dossing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    This summer, I will take a plane to visit Spain.

    I might buy a t-shirt that was made in Bangladesh, while typing a message on my mobile phone.... which contains cobalt mined by a Congolese child.

    Most people pay lip service to climate change. We just want cheap and convenient stuff. No questions asked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 382 ✭✭Giveaway


    Jimbob1977 wrote: »
    This summer, I will take a plane to visit Spain.

    I might buy a t-shirt that was made in Bangladesh, while typing a message on my mobile phone.... which contains cobalt mined by a Congolese child.

    Most people pay lip service to climate change. We just want cheap and convenient stuff. No questions asked.

    This x 1000. and the sad thing is that boycotting these products probably would not make one objective difference to our lives but would end a lot of the exploitation in the world. Being an auld fart, i can see many potential improvements for us as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    Protesting? Standing around making noise getting in people's way and looking for attention is that not just what most teenagers do anyway sure?


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Giveaway wrote: »
    This x 1000. and the sad thing is that boycotting these products probably would not make one objective difference to our lives but would end a lot of the exploitation in the world. Being an auld fart, i can see many potential improvements for us as well


    Sadly this is quite true, it's even worse when you think that most of the junk we buy is designed to fail far sooner than it would if engineered to last a realistic life time, for example LED lights are now being life-limited to only 10,000 hours and the packaging is written to make us believe that this is a long life. In reality, well designed LED lights are expected to last 25-30,000 hours. The greenest thing any teenager could ever do is learn about planned obsolescence and lobby politicians to outlaw it. this would reduce so called greenhouse gasses by about 30% alone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Dalomanakora


    Watched the coverage on the news and they seemed... Uninformed, to say the least. One person made some points that showed they'd actually researched climate change.

    The rest just shouted about needing change and the gubbermint, without actually saying a single thing about what needs changing, what's wrong and how they feel it can be fixed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    All well and good but when those children grow up and have jobs to work and bills to pay the reality of adult life will set in and they will forget all about it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    Watched the coverage on the news and they seemed... Uninformed, to say the least. One person made some points that showed they'd actually researched climate change.

    The rest just shouted about needing change and the gubbermint, without actually saying a single thing about what needs changing, what's wrong and how they feel it can be fixed.

    Time off school out arsing around with there mates was the reason majority of them were out there sure.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,507 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    Teachers telling us all how to live as usual.

    Look at the gubernment mainly ex teachers and they're telling us what to do.

    I think you will find that the vast majority of teachers were in their schools teaching.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,863 ✭✭✭buried


    They'd be better off doing something really protest productive for their futures by going down the docks and trashing harvesting profiles live steamin Facebuke HQ.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Ultimanemo


    It is all brainwashing, teachers say whatever politically correct, Those kids should be told the facts as they are, they should be told that we can produce 100% renewable energy but it is so expensive, we can do that for you but you will not have a job as you will not be able to compete with the guy in china who is using dirty cheap energy. We can give you green energy but you forget about holidays, We can give you green energy but just let you know that it is a drop in the ocean as Ireland is very small country and the impact will be negligible, tell them that you will be competing with guys in Europe who can drive zero emission electric cars, those cars are zero emission because the electricity is produced in nuclear reactors. can you compete with that kids?.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I saw them interviewing students on the news. One in particular was hilarious. She said "Soon we'll all be yellow and brown and black. Is this the Ireland we want to grow up in?". I was wondering if these was protesting climate change or immigrants! Obviously, I knew it was slightly out of context (I think she was trying to say we should be going green), but you could have been mistaken the girl for a white supremacist if you weren't paying attention. ;)

    I had to do a double take with that one as well.

    Radio presenters were lauding it all, ah shur isn't it great and my daughter/son out there as well.
    It'll be all the rage until the next viral video or internet challenge comes along. Our government doesnt take much notice of spotty teens or 3rd level students.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    All well and good but when those children grow up and have jobs to work and bills to pay the reality of adult life will set in and they will forget all about it


    Probably not due the climate changes causing disasters all aroubd the world.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 potatohouse


    ah lads I haven't been on boards in ages but when I heard about the protests the first thing I thought is the ould fellas on after hours must be having a field day. this thread has been everything I expected so far. I can see how it could be easy to get frustrated at ye but I actually find it hilarious. keep it up!

    I'll help ye along:

    Why don't they just get jobs! Then they'll know what real life is like! Sure ya can't achieve anything ever! They don't know the meaning of suffering! Snowflakes!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    What's wrong with an aul protest? You'd swear some people here were mortally wounded by the thoughts of youth protesting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,863 ✭✭✭buried


    Yakult wrote: »
    What's wrong with an aul protest? You'd swear some people here were mortally wounded by the thoughts of youth protesting.

    They're being told what to protest against. You could bet your arse if they wanted to go protest against the billions lost on that $hitshow hospital or the fact corporate entities like facebook or apple can do whatever the f**k they like here in our Republic, they'd be whacked back into the school gates quicker than you could say horse$hit.

    Which is what this is.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    ah lads I haven't been on boards in ages but when I heard about the protests the first thing I thought is the ould fellas on after hours must be having a field day. this thread has been everything I expected so far. I can see how it could be easy to get frustrated at ye but I actually find it hilarious. keep it up!

    I'll help ye along:

    Why don't they just get jobs! Then they'll know what real life is like! Sure ya can't achieve anything ever! They don't know the meaning of suffering! Snowflakes!

    What do you want us to say? What do YOU think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Dalomanakora


    Yakult wrote: »
    What's wrong with an aul protest? You'd swear some people here were mortally wounded by the thoughts of youth protesting.

    Nothing at all. Fair play to anyone who protests for change. They kept it peaceful too, which is brilliant.


    But it's very difficult to take a protest seriously when all news coverage shows is people who seemingly have no clue what they're protesting for.


    I hope a couple of educated spokespeople come out on behalf of the the protesters actually, because I agree with protesting against climate change.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,527 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    If these young people want to make a difference they should be getting on to Countries like the USA, China, India, Russia, Poland etc. They are the real problems. They are putting way more poison into the atmosphere than our little Country ever will and that is the only way change will ever happen. We are just a drop in the ocean. They could however make a tiny difference by giving up their cigarettes if they smoke and stop drinking then maybe they might feel better otherwise they should go back to their school/collage and do some learning like good children.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,863 ✭✭✭buried


    If they want to make a real difference and protest they should be protesting and demanding that the voting age requirement should be 14 years of age and that all of them are forced to vote in every election, just like they are forced to go to school.
    Lets see the politicians smile at them outside Leinster House and go for that craic

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Giveaway wrote: »
    if those kids were serious about saving the environment they would give up their smartphones, walk or cycle to school and start growing their own food. They could have planted their GAA pitch with spuds this afternoon instead of dossing


    Spot on.
    It's virtue signalling, they won't give up their comfy lives.
    Maybe that Swedish wan has*, but vast majority of her followers won't.


    * Maybe not, maybe she'll be flown to New York to receive her award.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Yakult wrote: »
    What's wrong with an aul protest? You'd swear some people here were mortally wounded by the thoughts of youth protesting.


    It's not that, it's that it's completely hypocritical, how many of these kids do you think walk to school, get a smart phone when they only ABSOLUTELY need a new one (not every year), minimize flying (I'm sure they'll be off to Barcelona this summer while Daddy parks the Range Rover in long term parking) and just generally watch their carbon footprint?



    **** all I'd say.


    And yes, I am aware I am making assumptions here, but I doubt I'm too far off.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Will they be another brief flash in the pan like the abandoned Occupy Movement or the start of something more serious?

    Will politicians take any notice? I doubt it.

    Of course the government won’t take any notice. The protesters are all too young to vote!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,702 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    ah lads I haven't been on boards in ages but when I heard about the protests the first thing I thought is the ould fellas on after hours must be having a field day. this thread has been everything I expected so far. I can see how it could be easy to get frustrated at ye but I actually find it hilarious. keep it up!

    I'll help ye along:

    Why don't they just get jobs! Then they'll know what real life is like! Sure ya can't achieve anything ever! They don't know the meaning of suffering! Snowflakes!

    Yeah as soon as I clicked into this thread I knew there would be posters on here moaning that they are protesting. If people didn't protest then no political change would ever have happened, we woud be still living in the Dark Ages. Humanity would never have moved forward without people agitating for change. The attitude to protesting you see on here is best summarised as 'Man who has benefitted from other people protesting criticises more people protesting'

    Fair play to them I say, Ireland is now one of the dirty men of Europe and will miss our Paris Agreement promises by a country mile. Its time the politicians woke up.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    The level of cynicism required to begrudge children wanting clean air is Herculean.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Yeah as soon as I clicked into this thread I knew there would be posters on here moaning that they are protesting. If people didn't protest then no political change would ever have happened, we woud be still living in the Dark Ages. Humanity would never have moved forward without people agitating for change. The attitude to protesting you see on here is best summarised as 'Man who has benefitted from other people protesting criticises more people protesting'

    Fair play to them I say, Ireland is now one of the dirty men of Europe and will miss our Paris Agreement promises by a country mile. Its time the politicians woke up.

    Politicians wake up means the average Irish person will have to pay through the nose for it. Usual story


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Politicians wake up means the average Irish person will have to pay through the nose for it. Usual story

    Did they say what they wanted the gubberment to do?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Did they say what they wanted the gubberment to do?

    Does it matter? Any change costs money. Tax payers money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Does it matter? Any change costs money. Tax payers money.

    The damage caused by climate change will cost much more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,865 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Some of those slogans, we're ehhhh......different



    'destroy my pussy, not the Earth'


    Am I missing a meme or something here. Seems like a bizarre slogan to carry around.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,316 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Of course the government won’t take any notice. The protesters are all too young to vote!

    The government dont take much heed of the grumpy auld ones here that do vote/whinge about "their" taxes for everything.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    20Cent wrote: »
    The damage caused by climate change will cost much more.

    Hand over everything they ask so. See if it makes a difference.

    I won't be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,702 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Politicians wake up means the average Irish person will have to pay through the nose for it. Usual story

    Do you have an alternative to weaning us off fossil fuels? If not taxation of fossil fuels combined with increased renewable engeries then what is your solution to solving climate change?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭screamer


    some of them will be totally mortified when viewing that footage as their adult selves. I wonder how many would turn up on a Saturday..... yep didn’t think so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭screamer


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Do you have an alternative to weaning us off fossil fuels? If not taxation then what is your solution to solving climate change?

    Nuclear baby, as an island with no natural resources that we haven’t given away, ‘‘tis the only option to give us a viable alternative to fossils.
    Tax= freeze us to death to make us comply, that won’t work. We need a viable alternative


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Do you have an alternative to weaning us off fossil fuels? If not taxation of fossil fuels combined with increased renewable engeries then what is your solution to solving climate change?

    I don't have one. All countries would have to be in agreement with a plan in place to create sufficient renewable energy to replace fossil fuels. There is no point in our government taxing the hell out of us while the next country continues to pollute.
    Big corporations and oil companies should have an environmental levy forced on them and that fund should be used globally to come up with solutions.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Does it matter? Any change costs money. Tax payers money.
    The simplest changes are free!

    Consumerism is a major cause of pollution, buy less junk, try to fix it rather than replace it.

    Very simple changes, less consumerism = less pollution and unnecessary waste of resources.

    Of course, politicians won't support these inititives as it means that their business paymasters will make less money.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    The simplest changes are free!


    Consumerism is a major cause of pollution, buy less junk, try to fix it rather than replace it.


    Very simple changes, less consumerism = less pollution and unnecessary waste of resources.



    Of course, politicians won't support these inititives as it means that their business paymasters will make less money.

    I already do this. I live a fairly minimalist lifestyle by today's standards. Taxing essential heating fuel in winterme so I freeze because I can't afford to heat my house while global companies destroy the planet making billions in the process isn't really a solution


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,682 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    screamer wrote: »
    Nuclear baby, as an island with no natural resources that we haven’t given away, ‘‘tis the only option to give us a viable alternative to fossils.
    Tax= freeze us to death to make us comply, that won’t work. We need a viable alternative

    Yeah but no because Chernobyl.

    Anyway, no point in making any effort because China.


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