Brexit discussion thread VII (Please read OP before posting)

CelticRambler · 13-03-2019 08:30PM

JRM trying to spin it that TM's modified motion is nothing to do with the Tories now, so they'll all vote against it! :rolleyes:

j8wk2feszrnpao · 13-03-2019 08:31PM

Wesser wrote: »

So what do they want... ???!!!

Something between the start and end of the British Empire; a return to the days of glory.

briany · 13-03-2019 08:31PM

What do we want to see on this next amendment?

robindch · 13-03-2019 08:31PM

Kalyke wrote: »

Apparently, Ministers voting against the Gov. means automatic resignations.

Government losing HoC votes on major policy issues used to mean resignations, no confidence motions, elections.

Seems that's all history too.

robindch · 13-03-2019 08:32PM

briany wrote: »

What do we want to see on this next amendment?

Sanity restored?

Franz Von Peppercorn · 13-03-2019 08:33PM

27 countries have to agree to an extension, right?

devnull · 13-03-2019 08:33PM

Amendment F (Malthouse v2) Result
This instructs the government to extend Article 50 until 22nd May and offer a transitional phase until end of 2021, with no backstop commitment.

REJECTED

Yes - 164
No - 374
Majority - 210

ancapailldorcha · 13-03-2019 08:33PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

27 countries have to agree to an extension, right?

Correct. The UK surrendered the upper hand when they triggered A50.

prawnsambo · 13-03-2019 08:33PM

This pretty much describes the meaning of the malthouse vote

164 of them. That's probably about right when you think about it.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 13-03-2019 08:33PM

robindch wrote: »

Government losing HoC votes on major policy issues used to mean resignations, no confidence motions, elections.

Seems that's all history too.

You can blame the liberals for that. Lib democrats I mean.

CelticRambler · 13-03-2019 08:34PM

briany wrote: »

What do we want to see on this next amendment?

"The noes have it, UNLOCK"

upupup · 13-03-2019 08:34PM

Wesser wrote: »

So they don't want a deal.... and they dont want a no deal.....
So what do they want... ???!!!

They want the respect/fear that they had a few hundred years ago but alas that is gone

Inquitus · 13-03-2019 08:34PM

Unicorns get what they deserve! Malthouse crushed.

ancapailldorcha · 13-03-2019 08:34PM

Amendment has been beaten.

Harry Palmr · 13-03-2019 08:34PM

No shock there really. No one was going to accept it in the EU

Franz Von Peppercorn · 13-03-2019 08:35PM

CelticRambler wrote: »

"The noes have it, UNLOCK"

It’s great theatre, but a farce of a Parliament. These people used to rule a world beating empire.

Inquitus · 13-03-2019 08:35PM

3 line whip on the Spelman 2.0

Akrasia · 13-03-2019 08:37PM

CelticRambler wrote: »

JRM trying to spin it that TM's modified motion is nothing to do with the Tories now, so they'll all vote against it! :rolleyes:

So they'll all vote for a no deal? They were gonna do that anyway

Inquitus · 13-03-2019 08:38PM

Akrasia wrote: »

So they'll all vote for a no deal? They were gonna do that anyway

They might, 3 line Whip, Cabinet resignations required, a very slim majority of 4 last time.

brendanwalsh · 13-03-2019 08:38PM

Why did May want to reject "leaving with no deal'?

Why did they reject an extension to May 22nd?

Very confusing,

13-03-2019 08:39PM

Government whipping against main motion now.

Akrasia · 13-03-2019 08:39PM

Inquitus wrote: »

They might, 3 line Whip, Cabinet resignations required, a very slim majority of 4 last time.

May said it was a free vote for her motion today. The Spellman amendment was whipped but it passed.

devnull · 13-03-2019 08:40PM

Next Vote (Overall Motion)
MPs are now voting on the government's motion, which has been amended to include ruling out no-deal completely.

Akrasia · 13-03-2019 08:40PM

Cake of Tremendous Power wrote: »

Government whipping against main motion now.

So they're whipping for a No Deal then? Great.

gooch2k9 · 13-03-2019 08:40PM

Akrasia wrote: »

May said it was a free vote for her motion today. The Spellman amendment was whipped but it passed.

"It's not her motion" is the excuse now as it is amended.

bazermc · 13-03-2019 08:41PM

I’m really confused now. I thought they already agreed to no deal not occurring.

Inquitus · 13-03-2019 08:41PM

devnull wrote: »

Next Vote (Overall Motion)
MPs are now voting on the government's motion, which has been amended to include ruling out no-deal completely.

Aye but the Government is whipping against it now as its not technically their motion.

prawnsambo · 13-03-2019 08:41PM

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Why did May want to reject "leaving with no deal'?

Why did they reject an extension to May 22nd?

Very confusing,

That's not it. The first was a vote on an amendment to the government no deal motion that made it more no than maybe. The second was a vote for unicorns disguised as giraffes or some such and the third is the now amended motion that the tories don't like any more because it's been amended.

Inquitus · 13-03-2019 08:42PM

bazermc wrote: »

I’m really confused now. I thought they already agreed to no deal not occurring.

The amendments to the main motion happen and if accepted as per tonight, it becomes the main motion and gets revoted as a conclusion to the evening.

Zonda999 · 13-03-2019 08:42PM

Tight margin of victory for taking no deal away at 312/620 = 50.3%

Then again, for any Brexiteer to mention that would be gross hypocrisy given the margin of victory of the referendum in 2016.

Brexit discussion thread VII (Please read OP before posting)

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