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Brexit discussion thread VII (Please read OP before posting)

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  • #9482
    gooch2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭gooch2k9


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Pointless anyway as unless they agree to the WA the default is no deal.

    Must they not adjust legislation accordingly?


  • #9483
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,127 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Patser wrote: »
    4 votes!!!!! 308 MPs thought no deal was a good idea?!?!?!?

    Seems to be absolutely disgraceful.


  • #9484
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,047 ✭✭✭✭briany


    A non-binding vote? With a slim majority? Where have I seen that before?


  • #9485
    Imreoir2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Imreoir2


    Does this oblige the British government to revoke A50 if it gets down to the wire with no deal in place?


  • #9486
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,095 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Jesus that was a bit close for comfort.


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  • #9487
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Surprised it was so close. Many MPs still away with the fairies, or should we say unicorns.


  • #9488
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    The BeeB seems to be more concerned these days on having gender balance on their panels and contributors.

    Nothing to do with that in the slightest, bizzare comment given the political editor of Sky News is a woman and Kay Burley is playing a blinder. You see reverse sexism everywhere.


  • #9489
    Kalyke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭Kalyke


    The list of Tory rebels will be crucial!


  • #9490
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,834 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Next Vote

    Amendment F (Malthouse v2)
    This instructs the government to extend Article 50 until 22nd May and offer a transitional phase until end of 2021, with no backstop commitment.


  • #9491
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    So all we need for now deal in May and 2 others to jump ship?


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  • #9492
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,251 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    briany wrote: »
    A non-binding vote? With a slim majority? Where have I seen that before?

    Another defeat for the government whip. TMs ammended bill still a free vote, will be interesting to see that result

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #9493
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,679 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Has to be a few big cabinet minsters or 'ex' cabinet ministers in that defeat?


  • #9494
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,609 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    devnull wrote: »
    Next Vote

    Amendment F
    This instructs the government to extend Article 50 until 22nd May and offer a transitional phase until end of 2021, with no backstop commitment.

    Pointless either way as the EU will never buy it.


  • #9495
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,846 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    devnull wrote: »
    Next Vote

    Amendment F
    This instructs the government to extend Article 50 until 22nd May and offer a transitional phase until end of 2021, with no backstop commitment.

    This is tomorrow, isn't it?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #9496
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,396 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Imreoir2 wrote: »
    Does this oblige the British government to revoke A50 if it gets down to the wire with no deal in place?


    Nope. Non-binding vote, far as I'm aware. As someone else said, it's a bit of a pointless vote, but at least they're making a little progress on what they actually do and don't support.


  • #9497
    Kalyke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭Kalyke


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Has to be a few big cabinet minsters or 'ex' cabinet ministers in that defeat?
    Apparently, Ministers voting against the Gov. means automatic resignations.


  • #9498
    cherryghost
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    devnull wrote: »
    Next Vote

    Amendment F
    This instructs the government to extend Article 50 until 22nd May and offer a transitional phase until end of 2021, with no backstop commitment.

    That'll fail for sure. So just going around in circles as it has always been


  • #9499
    SimonTemplar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    This is tomorrow, isn't it?


    No, it is happening right now


  • #9500
    sjb25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭sjb25


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    4 votes, wow.

    That was very close to all our melt down


  • #9501
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Surprised it was so close. Many MPs still away with the fairies, or should we say unicorns.
    Technically speaking they weren't voting against no deal off the table, but against this particular version of it. Party politics and a preference for a more meaningless type of brexit off the table vote. But who knows for sure?


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  • #9502
    Kalyke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭Kalyke


    devnull wrote: »
    Next Vote

    Amendment F (Malthouse v2)
    This instructs the government to extend Article 50 until 22nd May and offer a transitional phase until end of 2021, with no backstop commitment.
    The Malthouse Compromise, no?


  • #9503
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,834 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Kalyke wrote: »
    The Malthouse Compromise, no?

    That's why I called it Malthouse :)


  • #9504
    Shelga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭Shelga


    So May whipped her government to vote No, is that why the gap was so small?

    Sorry, I’m getting confused about the structure of the amendments and what yes and no mean.


  • #9505
    Wesser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭Wesser


    So they don't want a deal.... and they dont want a no deal.....
    So what do they want... ???!!!


  • #9506
    Imreoir2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Imreoir2


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Jesus that was a bit close for comfort.

    Yes, but the question for that vote was not "should we reject no deal", it was an amendment to the governments motion so it was a question of should we replace the governements no-deal motion with this no-deal motion.

    The next vote is should we add whetever nonsence the brexiteers want to the governments motion.


  • #9507
    CelticRambler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,204 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Patser wrote: »
    4 votes!!!!! 308 MPs thought no deal was a good idea?!?!?!?

    Not quite. This was the vote on the amendment that would take no deal off the table, i.e. delete the part of TM's motion that says no-deal is still the default; the vote on the now-amended motion is yet to come ...


  • #9508
    amacca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭amacca


    sjb25 wrote: »
    That was very close to all our melt down

    Surprisingly slim majority in favour of not shooting oneself and ones neighbours in the foot.


  • #9509
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    devnull wrote: »
    Amendment A (Caroline Spelman) Result

    This calls for MPs to reject leaving without a deal in any circumstance.

    PASSED
    In any circumstance, and I believe, rejects leaving without a deal, at any time as opposed to advising TM not to leave without a deal by the end of this month.

    They're dancing on the head of a pin, on the edge of a cliff, while high on crack cocaine.

    Madness.


  • #9510
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Kalyke wrote: »
    The Malthouse Compromise, no?
    Just with more nuts. A hard brexit with a transition period. This is quite literally a vote for more unicorns. With cherries on top.


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  • #9511
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,834 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Jacob Rees-Mogg says that if parliament vote against No Deal this is not allowed to stand as the law supersedes it and the law says they will leave on the date of exit.

    He also stated that Theresa May is not his Prime Minister and is the Queens.

    No doubt votes don't count if they don't go his way.

    Seems to be arguing that they should not be able taking back control.


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