Brexit discussion thread VII (Please read OP before posting)

Akrasia · 12-03-2019 08:38PM

Barnier has replied

https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Frank Bullitt · 12-03-2019 08:38PM

https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1105552915480150016

trashcan · 12-03-2019 08:39PM

Corbyn is right I think. They need an election. His proposal of a kind of semi-detached Brexit (staying in customs union and single market) would be the best option(other than staying in of course).

ancapailldorcha · 12-03-2019 08:39PM

Jean-Claude Juncker said there wouldn't be a third run of the deal in a tweet shared earlier in this thread. It must surely be dead now. She can't possibly request an extension without any sort of justification for it.

Professor Moriarty · 12-03-2019 08:39PM

Graham Brady proud to say he will be voting for No Deal. Probably be re-elected with a larger majority next time out.

Junkyard Tom · 12-03-2019 08:40PM

Labour/Corbyn's dithering serves a purpose. If Britain crashes out the CONs will take the blame leaving Labour to promise a new Britain in the wake of Brexit allowing it to reorganise the British economy.

Hurrache · 12-03-2019 08:40PM

gooch2k9 wrote: »

Could you imagine Labour with Starmer in charge? He would have demolished May week in week out at PMQs.

Late to the game on this but I was impressed by him alright.

cryptocurrency · 12-03-2019 08:41PM

Gintonious wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1105552915480150016

That guy has done nothing to help the situation in the UK. No deal is the best solution all around.

jon1981 · 12-03-2019 08:41PM

Nobody else wants her job.

cryptocurrency · 12-03-2019 08:42PM

Hurrache wrote: »

Late to the game on this but I was impressed by him alright.

People are living a fantasy to think labour have any hope. Election now will see a huge tory and brexit parties majority and with a new leader like Raab the kinda team that needs to sit and look Barnier in the eye

Frank Bullitt · 12-03-2019 08:42PM

SNIP.

10000maniacs · 12-03-2019 08:44PM

By giving her fellow Tories a free vote tomorrow, May has virtually guaranteed a no deal Brexit. Disgraceful retreating move.

CelticRambler · 12-03-2019 08:44PM

cryptocurrency wrote: »

That guy has done nothing to help the situation in the UK. No deal is the best solution all around.

It's not his job to "help the situation in the UK" :rolleyes:

But it is his job to look after our interests, and if that means telling it like it is so that everyone in the UK knows what's coming, then he's doing what he's paid to do.

cryptocurrency · 12-03-2019 08:45PM

Gintonious wrote: »

SNIP.

Long term it is also in Ireland interest for the UK to leave no deal. A neighbour like the UK trapped in the EU against its will is a bad bad bad situation.

Junkyard Tom · 12-03-2019 08:45PM

cryptocurrency wrote: »

That guy has done nothing to help the situation in the UK.

Au contraire. They've been very patient with T-May knowing she's trying to herd cats back home and that she's created herself a cage of red lines.

No deal is the best solution all around

For who?

listermint · 12-03-2019 08:45PM

cryptocurrency wrote: »

People are living a fantasy to think labour have any hope. Election now will see a huge tory and brexit parties majority and with a new leader like Raab the kinda team that needs to sit and look Barnier in the eye

Absolute fantasy land.

ancapailldorcha · 12-03-2019 08:45PM

Mod: Don't get personal please. A post has been snipped.

gooch2k9 · 12-03-2019 08:46PM

I'm just wondering. The Dail sometimes works into the wee hours to get legislation sorted. Why is there no hurry on in the UK like this? Dragging these out over multiple days is simply wasting more time.

That's not even addressing the fact they aren't really working Friday.

cryptocurrency · 12-03-2019 08:46PM

CelticRambler wrote: »

It's not his job to "help the situation in the UK" :rolleyes:

But it is his job to look after our interests, and if that means telling it like it is so that everyone in the UK knows what's coming, then he's doing what he's paid to do.

What is coming?.. Then threats seem to flow free and fast with the EU. No nation should bow-to threats, they must be headed straight on.

Hurrache · 12-03-2019 08:46PM

cryptocurrency wrote: »

That guy has done nothing to help the situation in the UK. No deal is the best solution all around.

Are you going to give any facts and details this time around? Easy one for you, why is a no deal best all around?

j8wk2feszrnpao · 12-03-2019 08:47PM

cryptocurrency wrote: »

People are living a fantasy to think labour have any hope. Election now will see a huge tory and brexit parties majority and with a new leader like Raab the kinda team that needs to sit and look Barnier in the eye

It's a fantasy if you still think the EU will shift. How many times does the EU need to say the same thing before it sinks in.

Professor Moriarty · 12-03-2019 08:47PM

Hmm. Influential German MEP on EU Brexit committee saying that they won't get more than 2 months. Threatening a No Deal. Looks pretty angry.

prawnsambo · 12-03-2019 08:47PM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Labour/Corbyn's dithering serves a purpose. If Britain crashes out the CONs will take the blame leaving Labour to promise a new Britain in the wake of Brexit allowing it to reorganise the British economy.

Burning it all down so that he can build his utopia on the ashes isn't exactly the caring Labour I thought it was.

cryptocurrency · 12-03-2019 08:48PM

listermint wrote: »

Oh I see now

You are on the wind up. Got it. Say no more.

Posted here a while. Strong anti EU feelings are met with some sort of disbelief here. I see the short term pain of brexit as a massive long term gain for mankind.

Infini · 12-03-2019 08:48PM

cryptocurrency wrote: »

That guy has done nothing to help the situation in the UK. No deal is the best solution all around.

The situation in the UK is one of their own making not the EU's. Incompetence, Idiocy and Ignorance are the order of the day they have one job and they can't even do that right (an orderly withdrawal). There's only so much one can do before finding it's much better to cut em loose than continue with this farce. They've refused to agree so the ONLY option I can see at this point is that they either leave or abandon this: Withdraw A50 and just have a 2nd referendum if needs be. The EU should be clear with them: Make a decision and live with it, stop evading your responsibilities, stop grandstanding for personal gain, do your job and take responsibility for the governance of your country not play games. Otherwise Go, just go and be done with it.

No deal hits us hard but we not only can work our way through it, we can make sure that Britain will get a hard time for causing such a mess up North on us until they get their act together. We didnt ask for this but no way should we just think they can cause damage to us needlessly and pointlessly for such a vainglorious project and not expect us to take it lying down.

Hurrache · 12-03-2019 08:48PM

cryptocurrency wrote: »

People are living a fantasy to think labour have any hope. Election now will see a huge tory and brexit parties majority and with a new leader like Raab the kinda team that needs to sit and look Barnier in the eye

I never said they have any hope, you'll have seen me repeatedly posting the contrary.

Inquitus · 12-03-2019 08:48PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Hmm. Influential German MEP on EU Brexit committee saying that they won't get more than 2 months. Threatening a No Deal. Looks pretty angry.

Ouch that was scathing, either sort it out with Corbyn in the next 2 weeks or off you go.

Get Real · 12-03-2019 08:48PM

10000maniacs wrote: »

By giving her fellow Tories a free vote tomorrow, May has virtually guaranteed a no deal Brexit. Disgraceful retreating move.

I agree. Alot of commentators talking as if No Deal won't pass. Why wouldn't it?

At this late stage, I think it could pass as politicians won't want to stomach the idea of telling the country that the nightmare will be extended once again. Besides, if its extended, for what reason is it extended? EU were pretty final about it.

Nobody knew/knows what the f they want. It's too divided. Brexit itself has multiple different versions/means different things to different sections of the electorate. So I think the red button could be pressed tomorrow.

Junkyard Tom · 12-03-2019 08:49PM

prawnsambo wrote: »

Burning it all down so that he can build his utopia on the ashes isn't exactly the caring Labour I thought it was.

At this point it might be Britain's only hope. The Tories will return Britain to the Victorian era if they get a chance.

lawred2 · 12-03-2019 08:49PM

cryptocurrency wrote: »

That guy has done nothing to help the situation in the UK. No deal is the best solution all around.

usual contribution from yourself

it's not his job to help the situation in the UK.. you do know that right? His job was to help negotiate a deal within the red lines laid down by the UK.

He did that.

Brexit discussion thread VII (Please read OP before posting)

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