Gardaí contact Louth family after Irish woman is detained in Syria

jmreire · 11-03-2019 11:41PM

Auntie Semite wrote: »

Anyone who advocates for the return of this Woman (without any criminal sanction or accountability for her crimes) is essentially an enabler of ISIS

The majority of poster's here on Boards don't want her back in Ireland under any circumstances, but even the ones who are saying that legally, she has a right to come back are not suggesting that she be given a "Free Pass"
Unless you think that Leo's " Compassionate " stance is a free pass??

Auntie Semite · 11-03-2019 11:44PM

Yes I do believe Leos stance is a free pass.

Just earlier on RTE Radio we were told there are no laws in place to deal with her. Or in other words she hasn't broken any laws so yes it is a free pass.

malinheader · 11-03-2019 11:48PM

jmreire wrote: »

The majority of poster's here on Boards don't want her back in Ireland under any circumstances, but even the ones who are saying that legally, she has a right to come back are not suggesting that she be given a "Free Pass"
Unless you think that Leo's " Compassionate " stance is a free pass??

A useful idiot was the best quote I think.
Well for some certain groups he is.

janfebmar · 11-03-2019 11:48PM

SoundsRight wrote: »

Gardai don't seem to have the same sort of helplines on their website as UK police for getting advice on a relative converting to Islam. Hopefully this case will have pushed them into action.

Is it true nobody in the Gardai even speaks Arabic and UK intelligence continually tips off the Gardai on the comings and goings of suspect extremist muslims in Ireland?

Tacklebox · 11-03-2019 11:54PM

SaifUllah wrote: »

F*ck this .

This has all been a test, I can't believe this account is still up.

Shame shame shame shame on boards.ie for letting a user spread vile pro ISIS poison on here with no so much as a card!!!
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closing

That poster has a point, they got away with what ever they said.....

Oh well my bad for engaging lol

Auntie Semite · 11-03-2019 11:56PM

janfebmar wrote: »

Is it true nobody in the Gardai even speaks Arabic and UK intelligence continually tips off the Gardai on the comings and goings of suspect extremist muslims in Ireland?

It is true, I believe it has changed now but until recently there were no Arab interpreters in the Gardai. I might be wrong but I think they outsourced them.

It has to be said that any shortcomings on behalf of the Gardai regarding Islamic Extremism are a direct result of policies directed from the top... The Dept of Justice.

Don't be fooled into thinking the ordinary Gardai are incompetent on this issue, everything they do is directed from the top.

Tacklebox · 11-03-2019 11:59PM

janfebmar wrote: »

Is it true nobody in the Gardai even speaks Arabic and UK intelligence continually tips off the Gardai on the comings and goings of suspect extremist muslims in Ireland?

A Saudi Shia would be their best bet if they could get an Arabic interpretor.

jmreire · 12-03-2019 12:03AM

Auntie Semite wrote: »

Yes I do believe Leos stance is a free pass.

Just earlier on RTE Radio we were told there are no laws in place to deal with her. Or in other words she hasn't broken any laws so yes it is a free pass.

We will have to wait and see, first if she makes it safely out of there, and back to Ireland. Bear in mind that she, and thousands of other's like her are being questioned about their activities in the Caliphate while it was in full swing. And I doubt very much if she will be "Mirandized ".....not over there she won't. And if she is linked to any atrocity, then all I can say is "God Help Her". But assume that she does make it back home, even with a "Free Pass", what kind of life will she have? In the best case, she will be under 100% surveillance...she will have nothing like a normal life, she wont ever be able to travel abroad...and she will have to be looking over her shoulder all the time. Thats not much of a future to look forward to. But, ( and this in my opinion, is the important thing ) she will not be free to carry out terrorist attack's, as she would be if just released in Syria to rejoin isis. Even her friends ( if she still has any ) here in Ireland will be monitored. Jobs etc? Not looking like much of a future is it?

Auntie Semite · 12-03-2019 12:17AM

jmreire wrote: »

We will have to wait and see, first if she makes it safely out of there, and back to Ireland. Bear in mind that she, and thousands of other's like her are being questioned about their activities in the Caliphate while it was in full swing. And I doubt very much if she will be "Mirandized ".....not over there she won't. And if she is linked to any atrocity, then all I can say is "God Help Her". But assume that she does make it back home, even with a "Free Pass", what kind of life will she have? In the best case, she will be under 100% surveillance...she will have nothing like a normal life, she wont ever be able to travel abroad...and she will have to be looking over her shoulder all the time. Thats not much of a future to look forward to. But, ( and this in my opinion, is the important thing ) she will not be free to carry out terrorist attack's, as she would be if just released in Syria to rejoin isis. Even her friends ( if she still has any ) here in Ireland will be monitored. Jobs etc? Not looking like much of a future is it?

For anyone with the slightest smidgen of morality...the only acceptable life she should look forward to is one behind bars..for the rest of her days.

Any other position is an absolute dereliction of moral duty.

Pronto63 · 12-03-2019 12:20AM

jmreire wrote: »

We will have to wait and see, first if she makes it safely out of there, and back to Ireland. Bear in mind that she, and thousands of other's like her are being questioned about their activities in the Caliphate while it was in full swing. And I doubt very much if she will be "Mirandized ".....not over there she won't. And if she is linked to any atrocity, then all I can say is "God Help Her". But assume that she does make it back home, even with a "Free Pass", what kind of life will she have? In the best case, she will be under 100% surveillance...she will have nothing like a normal life, she wont ever be able to travel abroad...and she will have to be looking over her shoulder all the time. Thats not much of a future to look forward to. But, ( and this in my opinion, is the important thing ) she will not be free to carry out terrorist attack's, as she would be if just released in Syria to rejoin isis. Even her friends ( if she still has any ) here in Ireland will be monitored. Jobs etc? Not looking like much of a future is it?

How much will all this surveillance cost?

We simply don't have the resources for this type of thing. Defence spending are two dirty words in this country!

dd973 · 12-03-2019 12:23AM

Bit surprised she turned out to be Irish, I was expecting someone with Irish citizenship but with origins in an Islamic country, I can't really understand it in the same context as when White English people who've joined it, there's a bigger quotient of socially alienated people and general nutjobs in the U.K.

SafeSurfer · 12-03-2019 12:56AM

Fine Gael welcomed fascist fighters back from Spain, after the Spanish Civywar in which more innocent people were killed by fascists than ever were by ISIS. Some of these fighters went on to have prominent roles in the Fine Gael organisation so Leo Varadkar extending the hand of friendship to Irish ISIS men BYU’s hardly surprising. Irish citizens should still be protected by the Irish state and she remains an Irish citizen.

Gatling · 12-03-2019 01:12AM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Irish citizens should still be protected by the Irish state and she remains an Irish citizen.

No she shouldn't she happily "emigrated" to join a terrorist organisation ,
Any rights she had should be stripped and prevented from ever returning here ,

She's a traitor and a threat

jmreire · 12-03-2019 01:17AM

Auntie Semite wrote: »

For anyone with the slightest smidgen of morality...the only acceptable life she should look forward to is one behind bars..for the rest of her days.

Any other position is an absolute dereliction of moral duty.

Unfortunately, the Law of the Land trumps morality, and so we are where we are. But don't misunderstand me....where isis is concerned.....there are no words in the English language to describe what I feel towards them, and I mean that in the worst possible way imaginable.

Ultimate Seduction · 12-03-2019 02:29AM

mad muffin wrote: »

All this is showing is, if you’re an Irish citizen.

You can join a murderous terrorist organisation.

Go on a murder spree/support murder spree/spreed hatefulness.

Come home and put your feet up.

You’re golden.

Just make sure an pay the tv license when home or you could get locked up!

Limpy · 12-03-2019 02:57AM

Most of the people who went over to Syria went while there governments turned a blind eye. Happy in the knowledge that soon they would change a regime and install a puppet.

In the UK some 'freedom fighters' who travelled to Syria were working covertly for the UK. One of the main reasons why the US didnt want the Syrian goverment or Russia finishing off the last batch of Isis land is because they contain many of these 'citizens'. Even Trump said Europe must take back those citizens. And he is right because they facilitated it by turning a blind eye.

No pressure was ever put on Turkey, which is a Nato member to close the border. People were travelling willy nilly to SYRIA and getting plenty of air time from western media about fighting big bad Assad.

Billy86 · 12-03-2019 03:10AM

Tacklebox wrote: »

**** off

Those Yazidis are peaceful loving people, who's only difference is they worship a peacock....

Rape and murder isn't justified, now piss off

I've been guilty of it plenty of times myself, but don't take the bait man!

Highly disagree with allowing her return, though I said it earlier in the thread and am not sure if it has been confirmed as the case or not that nobody else would take her. I 100% do not want her in Ireland, but get it if nobody else would accept... otherwise every country could just play "you had her last no taskies backsies!" with each other all the time.

On the plus side, a least we are an island with plenty of smaller, uninhabited ones...

Sam Quentin · 12-03-2019 03:36AM

I suspect when she returns,that all her electronic devices will be monitored and she'll have to sign on at the local Garda Station once a week....
Like what more can be done!?

ChikiChiki · 12-03-2019 03:41AM

malinheader wrote: »

A useful idiot was the best quote I think.
Well for some certain groups he is.

Unfortunately the whole of the EU and other major countries seems to have been taken over by back slapping useful idiots egging each other on.

Leo and Justin Trudeau come to mind.

ChikiChiki · 12-03-2019 03:46AM

jmreire wrote: »

We will have to wait and see, first if she makes it safely out of there, and back to Ireland. Bear in mind that she, and thousands of other's like her are being questioned about their activities in the Caliphate while it was in full swing. And I doubt very much if she will be "Mirandized ".....not over there she won't. And if she is linked to any atrocity, then all I can say is "God Help Her". But assume that she does make it back home, even with a "Free Pass", what kind of life will she have? In the best case, she will be under 100% surveillance...she will have nothing like a normal life, she wont ever be able to travel abroad...and she will have to be looking over her shoulder all the time. Thats not much of a future to look forward to. But, ( and this in my opinion, is the important thing ) she will not be free to carry out terrorist attack's, as she would be if just released in Syria to rejoin isis. Even her friends ( if she still has any ) here in Ireland will be monitored. Jobs etc? Not looking like much of a future is it?

Late Late show appearance, glossy eyed and remorseful. Leo's PR people will have her well drilled. Somehow over a time of sustained PR sympathy will be won back for her. Similar cases are allowed return to the country in the meantime. All these women of Allah will be essentially operating undercover whilst still harbouring their extreme views. It won't end well for Europe if this narrative is set.

fash · 12-03-2019 05:49AM

Grayson wrote: »

I'd recommend reading Karen Armstrong. She's a former nun who writes simple to read books about different religions.

... I strongly recommend not reading Karen Armstrong- she writes clearly inaccurate propaganda not fair or accurate portrayals of Islam.
Her books are some of the most inaccurate I had the displeasure to read.

suicide_circus · 12-03-2019 06:01AM

Sam Quentin wrote: »

I suspect when she returns,that all her electronic devices will be monitored and she'll have to sign on at the local Garda Station once a week....
Like what more can be done!?

i'd be giving her no access to the internet tbh

fash · 12-03-2019 06:04AM

dd973 wrote: »

Bit surprised she turned out to be Irish, I was expecting someone with Irish citizenship but with origins in an Islamic country, I can't really understand it in the same context as when White English people who've joined it, there's a bigger quotient of socially alienated people and general nutjobs in the U.K.

From the story in the independent earlier, it seemed to be a "broken hedonist rejects hedonism and yearns for strict rules" type.

fash · 12-03-2019 06:10AM

Sam Quentin wrote: »

I suspect when she returns,that all her electronic devices will be monitored and she'll have to sign on at the local Garda Station once a week....
Like what more can be done!?

The problem is that she will be going to mosque, interacting with Muslims, telling them all about how wonderful and magical ISIS were and that the bad things were lies/deserved by the unbelievers and that they were destroyed by the unbelievers. She will have free access when she gets back and she will contaminate a lot of people.
I don't have a solution to it- I'm just pointing out what will happen. The government should have declared Isis a proscribed organisation.

mad muffin · 12-03-2019 08:57AM

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Just make sure an pay the tv license when home or you could get locked up!

Or your garlic tax.

Join murderous terrorist group? You’re golden. Don’t pay garlic tax? 6 years in prison.

Whata you gonna do?… it’s Ireland. Where the jihadis mingle and the garlic tax doggers rot in jail.

mad muffin · 12-03-2019 08:59AM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Fine Gael welcomed fascist fighters back from Spain, after the Spanish Civywar in which more innocent people were killed by fascists than ever were by ISIS. Some of these fighters went on to have prominent roles in the Fine Gael organisation so Leo Varadkar extending the hand of friendship to Irish ISIS men BYU’s hardly surprising. Irish citizens should still be protected by the Irish state and she remains an Irish citizen.

Last I check, it’s 2019 not 1936

That shït don’t float today. Or so you would think…

Zorya · 12-03-2019 09:15AM

Limpy wrote: »

No pressure was ever put on Turkey, which is a Nato member to close the border. People were travelling willy nilly to SYRIA and getting plenty of air time from western media about fighting big bad Assad.

Not to mention how much Oil went through Turkey that funded ISIL - 1 million worth a day minimum. How much of that cheap black gold went west?
The financing of ISIL is interesting because so many people in the west are implicated. How many paid huge sums on the black market for artefacts looted? Lots came into the UK for example. Trafficking antiquities was the second biggest source of income for ISIL. Afghan heroin made ISIL 1 billion a year. Saudi Arabia and Qatar, who the west is very happy to do business with, sent millions monthly to ISIL. ISIL also made more than 300 million trafficking migrants into Europe. Yep, that was a nice little earner for them. Buyers across the globe have been buying organs harvested from their dead soldiers and live captives including children.

It's always filthy money behind the crap in the world. Always.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2347798916681319#_i2

Giveaway · 12-03-2019 09:20AM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Fine Gael welcomed fascist fighters back from Spain, after the Spanish Civywar in which more innocent people were killed by fascists than ever were by ISIS. Some of these fighters went on to have prominent roles in the Fine Gael organisation so Leo Varadkar extending the hand of friendship to Irish ISIS men BYU’s hardly surprising. Irish citizens should still be protected by the Irish state and she remains an Irish citizen.

read a book called the Spanish holocost. Yes both sides were mass murders but the most notorious criminals on the fascist side were the Moorish soldiers. Mass rape and murder, accounts are indistinguishable from the behaviour of Isis. And i hold tje spanish officers just as culpable who stepped back and let them

Squatter · 12-03-2019 10:12AM

mad muffin wrote: »

Or your garlic tax.

Join murderous terrorist group? You’re golden. Don’t pay garlic tax? 6 years in prison.

Whata you gonna do?… it’s Ireland. Where the jihadis mingle and the garlic tax doggers rot in jail.

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

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Refrain from the personal abuse please.

Keep it civil please folks.

What word best describes the the kind of person who regards the jailing of a large-scale serial tax evader who pleaded guilty to having defrauded the Exchequer of over €1,600,000 as in some way unfair?

Sephiroth_dude · 12-03-2019 11:09AM

Squatter wrote: »

Why do a minority of clueless gob****es persist in whinging about a shady businessman who was caught evading at least €1.6 million in import tax being sent to jail?

MOD

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Gardaí contact Louth family after Irish woman is detained in Syria

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