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Green card for driving in NI and UK

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    #32
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 81,280 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Has anyone received one of these green cards, is it even green, what does it look like? I'm applying for one tomorrow, purely for the craic, might become a collectors item should they UK stay.


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    #33
    CiniO
    Registered Users Posts: 16,088 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    I actually wonder if those greencards issued nowadays, cover only UK (is it indicated on the green card UK only) or do they cover all green card system countries which include pretty much all Continent of Europe and Asian part of Russia and probably few more countries.


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    #34
    NIMAN
    Registered Users Posts: 33,082 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I cross the border daily, I haven't called my insurer yet.

    Nor have they contacted me.


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    #35
    CarAudio
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭CarAudio


    International insurance certificates should be issued at insurance renewals. Regardless of Brexit happening or not, you should have one already, if not, ask for one. If they refuse tell them you need to drive to France or whatever next month.
    It should be free.
    If you are refused one, just keep your full policy document with you in the glovebox, where it states you are allowed to drive anywhere in Europe for X number of days. Better than your insurance disk alone on the windscreen.


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    #36
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    You don't need it to drive in France.


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    #37
    TrailerBob
    Registered Users Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭TrailerBob


    It’s a rather large bucket of cow poo... almost all insurers operating here are also in the UK so there should be no reason why they can’t sort this quickly.


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    #38
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    For anyone with an AIG policy, I asked and was told:
    Thank you, I have noted that you require one however, I can confirm that we are not issuing Insurance Green Cards at this time and cannot confirm if we will be issuing such documents however, if the cards are required on or after 29 March 2019 we will process accordingly.


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    #39
    ednwireland
    Registered Users Posts: 14,304 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    i emailed allianz just asked if i need one yet , they asked me for my reg no. so assume its going to be sent to me

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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    #40
    wassie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭wassie


    Kennco giving similar responses as AIG as Tabnabs above. After 20 mins of telling them Im crossing the border several times a week for work they said that it would cost me €30 to issue the card and I would be put on a waiting list. Going to be some unhappy policy holders if this is required in a few weeks.


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    #41
    RoYoBo
    Registered Users Posts: 856 ✭✭✭RoYoBo


    ednwireland wrote: »
    i emailed allianz just asked if i need one yet , they asked me for my reg no. so assume its going to be sent to me

    I contacted Allianz via Facebook too and was told I had to ring to request one! No other way, online or anywhere else. It really should be automatic.


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    #42
    bodonnell
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭bodonnell


    Update on aviva website.
    They will issue a green card but want 10 days notice, it's valid then until end of policy.


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    #43
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    bodonnell wrote: »
    Update on aviva website.
    They will issue a green card but want 10 days notice, it's valid then until end of policy.

    Maybe my rant on the phone yesterday worked ;)


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    #44
    CarAudio
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭CarAudio


    Green card is not a proof of insurance. Nobody gonna take your car away after Brexit if you dont have one. But you must have a proof of insurance, so keep your full policy in your wallet or glovebox. Green card only makes things easier to police forces to quickly check the conditions of your insurance policy (Are you insured to drive in this country for example).

    When I had one years ago it was clearly stating I was not covered to drive in Northern Ireland, Montenegro and so on.


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    #45
    CiniO
    Registered Users Posts: 16,088 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    CarAudio wrote: »
    Green card is not a proof of insurance.
    It is a proof that your insurer is providing third party cover in a country which is part of green card system.
    Without it, you will only be covered in countries which are part of EU or signed a deal with EU about recognising insurance.
    Nobody gonna take your car away after Brexit if you dont have one.
    Without green card, you won't be insured in UK, so they can take your car away.
    But you must have a proof of insurance, so keep your full policy in your wallet or glovebox.
    You Irish policy will be useless in post-nodeal-brexit in UK, as it won't provide cover there.
    Green card only makes things easier to police forces to quickly check the conditions of your insurance policy (Are you insured to drive in this country for example).
    Nothing like that.
    Green card is a document that shows that you are covered to drive in countries which are part of green card system.
    Without it, you are only covered in EU countries, and those which signed a deal with EU about recognising third party insurance.
    When I had one years ago it was clearly stating I was not covered to drive in Northern Ireland, Montenegro and so on.

    Green card can exclude some countries, as your insurer might wish.
    There are no laws forcing insurers to issue them afaik.


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    #46
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,647 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Here's what they look like.
    https://ua.all.biz/en/green-card-for-departure-on-a-car-to-the-cis-and-s591303

    We get one every year, I think it's €12 or €20 123.ie charge us for it.
    We email 123.ie the countries we want it for, they cross them on the form, form is checked dilligently at relevant borders.
    Easy peasy, lemon squeezy


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    #47
    Isambard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭Isambard


    josip wrote: »
    Here's what they look like.
    https://ua.all.biz/en/green-card-for-departure-on-a-car-to-the-cis-and-s591303

    We get one every year, I think it's €12 or €20 123.ie charge us for it.
    We email 123.ie the countries we want it for, they cross them on the form, form is checked dilligently at relevant borders.
    Easy peasy, lemon squeezy

    Axa are sending them out automatically and presumably free.


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    #48
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,647 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Isambard wrote: »
    Axa are sending them out automatically and presumably free.


    We haven't gotten it for this year yet, so don't know if they'll still be charging.
    They might do since we need it for more than the UK


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    #49
    alchemist33
    Registered Users Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    I'm insured with Allianz through the AA, and the AA are automatically sending one as I live in a border county. Just as well as when I rang Allianz last month they didn't know - I work in the north


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    #50
    Isambard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭Isambard


    josip wrote: »
    We haven't gotten it for this year yet, so don't know if they'll still be charging.
    They might do since we need it for more than the UK


    free of charge per the Independant

    https://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/thousands-seek-green-cards-to-drive-in-uk-as-insurers-waive-fees-37825467.html


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    #51
    recyclebin
    Registered Users Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭recyclebin


    @Cinio: My policy says I can drive insured in the UK.

    The green card does not validate or invalidate your insurance. It just means that they can impound your car in the UK if you are stopped and don't have one.


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    #52
    Isambard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭Isambard


    recyclebin wrote: »
    @Cinio: My policy says I can drive insured in the UK.

    The green card does not validate or invalidate your insurance. It just means that they can impound your car in the UK if you are stopped and don't have one.

    yes it does now, but after a no deal Brexit it may be altered


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    #53
    CarAudio
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭CarAudio


    CiniO wrote: »
    It is a proof that your insurer is providing third party cover in a country which is part of green card system.
    Without it, you won't be covered in countries which are part of EU or signed a deal with EU about recognising insurance.


    Without green card, you won't be insured in UK, so they can take your car away.


    You Irish policy will be useless in post-nodeal-brexit in UK, as it won't provide cover there.


    Nothing like that.
    Green card is a document that shows that you are covered to drive in countries which are part of green card system.
    Without it, you are only covered in EU countries, and those which signed a deal with EU about recognising third party insurance.



    Green card can exclude some countries, as your insurer might wish.
    There are no laws forcing insurers to issue them afaik.


    Please stop spreading false information, we have enough of the journalists writing BS about Brexit...
    Total non sense


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    #54
    CarAudio
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭CarAudio


    Isambard wrote: »
    free of charge per the Independant

    https://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/thousands-seek-green-cards-to-drive-in-uk-as-insurers-waive-fees-37825467.html


    And must be issued on request and ideally on policy renewal or creation, automatically.

    Has nothing to do with Brexit
    Insurers are just trying to save money.


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    #55
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users Posts: 5,488 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    CiniO wrote: »
    Without green card, you won't be insured in UK, so they can take your car away.

    Irish policies have been required to include NI for the last 60 years and green cards were dispensed with long before the EU.

    NI have said no need for green card for 26 county residents
    https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/driving-cross-border-and-green-card

    "If you hold a motor insurance policy as a resident of the Republic of
    Ireland, you won’t need a Green Card to drive in NI, as your insurance
    certificate will be accepted as proof of valid cover.


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    #56
    Marcusm
    Registered Users Posts: 10,214 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Isambard wrote: »
    Axa are sending them out automatically and presumably free.

    I think they’ll all end up sending them automatically. Much easier and more efficient as a process and cheaper than responding to requests.


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    #57
    Isambard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭Isambard


    https://www.axa.ie/other/green-card/


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    #58
    RoYoBo
    Registered Users Posts: 856 ✭✭✭RoYoBo


    According to the Motor Insurers' Bureau of Ireland, we will definitely need a Green Card to travel in NI or UK in the event of a no deal Brexit:
    https://www.mibi.ie/brexit.1760.html

    If there is a no deal Brexit on the 29th March, you will need a Green Card if you plan on driving an Irish registered vehicle in Northern Ireland or elsewhere in the UK.

    A Green Card will stop you being treated as ‘uninsured’ by the police when driving your vehicle in Northern Ireland or the rest of the UK.

    I agree that the information available is confusing and downright contradictory. I'd prefer to be safe than sorry. I know that I'm insured according to my policy, but I don't care for having to argue the point with a PSNI member who believes the opposite.


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    #59
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users Posts: 5,488 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    RoYoBo wrote: »
    I agree that the information available is confusing and downright contradictory. I'd prefer to be safe than sorry. I know that I'm insured according to my policy, but I don't care for having to argue the point with a PSNI member who believes the opposite.


    The PSNI are scared of Brexit undoing 20 years of progress, the last thing they want to do is stir up trouble with political policing of this sort.


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    #60
    whomitconcerns
    Registered Users Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    So I am getting my green card this week. They said it is valid to the end of my policy. But I must tell them any dates I plan on driving out of the country due to foreign cover time limits.


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    #61
    wassie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭wassie


    Automatically received an emailed PDF version of a green card from KennCo today after last week being told they were going to charge me €30 for such and would take 2-4 weeks to porcess.
    Amazing what computers can do these day :p


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