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Dohnjoe · 06-03-2019 08:06PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

i find the "its a private company, their platform their rules" argument from leftists hilarious. How far does that logic extend? To other service monopolies?

and the obvious pitfall of that argument...what happens when your politics or beliefs become wrongthink, as they inevitably will..."oh well, got deplatformed due to my ideology, c'est la vie"....such short term thinking.

Countless people have been banned from platforms like Boards for a wide variety of reasons.

Yet when a man incites hatred and harassment towards the families of dead children, breaks ToS and it then removed from multiple platforms - there's all this hysteria over "censorship"

Bit silly really, they had more than enough reasons to remove him. The fact that he's fighting and may very well lose multiple court cases is testament that the law may also go against his "free speech"

greencap · 06-03-2019 08:14PM

nullzero wrote: »

I don't know where you're getting this nonsense from.

I simply stated that the large platforms are hugely influential and have given more coverage to Alex Jones by banning him than he would ever have had otherwise.

All services like twitter and boards.ie have terms of service and restrict free speech, but none of them endorse the views on non deplatformed individuals and plenty of other nonsensical crap is allowed to be posted on the Internet all the time.

It seems that Alex Jones was to be made an example of but somewhat predictably he's now more relevant and visible than ever before.

If you want to project some sort of victim mentality onto me that's your business, you're getting a little too personal and heated for somebody I've never spoken to before.

From the repeated idiotic confounding of free speech and censorship, with a private company simply rejecting you.

You people aren't connected to reality.

There are indeed conspiracies, loads of them, but they're normal, self serving, everyday conspiracies, mostly for business purposes.

Maybe there is a conspiracy against Jones.
Maybe he pissed enough connected people off, with his nonsense, and being that they were shareholders they decided to deny him use of their company's equipment.

I know that if I was a major shareholder in paypal or youtube, and someone asked me why I was allowing some shill a55hole to denigrate the deaths of kids, and give out grieving parents addresses, on equipment that I own a part of, that I would immediately get on to management to pull the plug on such a scumbag.

HappyAsLarE · 06-03-2019 08:37PM

No problem is solved by banning people. They will just unite and become a dangerous force.

super_furry · 06-03-2019 08:38PM

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

No problem is solved by banning people. They will just unite and become a dangerous force.

Or they'll just disappear and quietly fade away from public consciousness.

Exhibit A - Milo Yiannopoulos

Ipso · 06-03-2019 08:41PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

I'm trying to follow the logic here

So, people have a right to say whatever they want on social media platforms, but only the biggest ones, because those platforms are some sort of essential service?

And is there a cut off for being too big, and who will decide it?
Given Jones is the leader in the insane/always wrong about the government out to get you carnival, should he remove rule 19 from his terms of service?

HappyAsLarE · 06-03-2019 08:48PM

super_furry wrote: »

Or they'll just disappear and quietly fade away from public consciousness.

Exhibit A - Milo Yiannopoulos

Well it’s grains of sand. It manifests to voting for Trump and Brexit.

super_furry · 06-03-2019 08:49PM

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

Well it’s grains of sand. It manifests to voting for Trump and Brexit.

Rubbish. Banning Alex Jones from Twitter didn't lead to Brexit, it lead to Alex Jones losing half his audience.

nullzero · 06-03-2019 08:50PM

greencap wrote: »

From the repeated idiotic confounding of free speech and censorship, with a private company simply rejecting you.

You people aren't connected to reality.

There are indeed conspiracies, loads of them, but they're normal, self serving, everyday conspiracies, mostly for business purposes.

Maybe there is a conspiracy against Jones.
Maybe he pissed enough connected people off, with his nonsense, and being that they were shareholders they decided to deny him use of their company's equipment.

I know that if I was a major shareholder in paypal or youtube, and someone asked me why I was allowing some shill a55hole to denigrate the deaths of kids, and give out grieving parents addresses, on equipment that I own a part of, that I would immediately get on to management to pull the plug on such a scumbag.

You lost me at "you people", you should give primal scream therapy a go, I can sense the veins in your temples bulging.

greencap · 06-03-2019 09:14PM

nullzero wrote: »

You lost me at "you people", you should give primal scream therapy a go, I can sense the veins in your temples bulging.

I feel censored.

Justify this attack on my free speech.

mzungu · 06-03-2019 09:17PM

Venom wrote: »

The issue so many people have is not that Jones got banned from any of the platforms but that he got banned from almost all the platforms on the same day.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

It's more akin to having your chip turned off like in an episode of Black Mirror. If every major social media company works together to silence you without any due process in a court, then they are essentially shutting that person off from all forms of social internet.

A bit like all the energy companies agreeing together to not provide you with electricity into your own home. You are technically free to look for alternative ways like putting a solar panel on your roof, or buying oil or wood wholesale, but it's not very feasible.

These issues should be decided by laws that are there in a court by a judge/jury. Not faceless people in boardrooms.

Jones still has his website that can provide content. He has been taken off popular social media because he was most likely bad for business. He is still free to create content and his followers can head over to his website and consume what they wish.

Jones is not being censored, nor is he being hard done by.

HappyAsLarE · 06-03-2019 09:29PM

super_furry wrote: »

Rubbish. Banning Alex Jones from Twitter didn't lead to Brexit, it lead to Alex Jones losing half his audience.

That’s true. But my point is a more general one that the people don’t like censorship.

Dohnjoe · 06-03-2019 09:30PM

nullzero wrote: »

You lost me at "you people", you should give primal scream therapy a go, I can sense the veins in your temples bulging.

If you got a mod warning right now for a personal attack it would be pretty ironic considering the point you're trying to make

Dohnjoe · 06-03-2019 09:30PM

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

That’s true. But my point is a more general one that the people don’t like censorship.

Appears people like Alex Jones less

HappyAsLarE · 06-03-2019 09:37PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Appears people like Alex Jones less

Well personally I hadn’t heard of him until the regressive left silenced him, ironically.

nullzero · 06-03-2019 09:38PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

If you got a mod warning right now for a personal attack it would be pretty ironic considering the point you're trying to make

How is what I said a personal attack?
A card for back seat modding might be more appropriate.

Dohnjoe · 06-03-2019 09:43PM

nullzero wrote: »

A card for back seat modding might be more appropriate.

You support censorship against me?

This is kinda the point

nullzero · 06-03-2019 09:49PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You support censorship against me?

This is kinda the point

Moderation isn't censorship, but keep on reaching.

Love the winky faces btw, really accentuates your posting style.

Dohnjoe · 06-03-2019 09:51PM

nullzero wrote: »

Moderation isn't censorship, but keep on reaching.

Oh right, so if someone is banned from this platform, it's ok because it's "moderation"

But if someone is banned from another platform it's not ok because it's "censorship"

Gotcha

super_furry · 06-03-2019 09:53PM

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

Well personally I hadn’t heard of him until the regressive left silenced him, ironically.

Since where are huge multi-national companies like Twitter and Alphabet the 'regressive left'?

nullzero · 06-03-2019 09:53PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Oh right, so if someone is banned from this platform, it's "moderation"

But if someone is banned from another platform it's "censorship"

Gotcha

Getting an infraction isn't the same as being banned.

At least you're consistent with your condescending and nonsensical posting, keep up the winky faces, I'm looking forward to some rolleyes.

Ash.J.Williams · 06-03-2019 09:55PM

vetinari wrote: »

He's already been elected once thanks to loons like this.
Carrying him on your platform is an implicit endorsement of him.

where does that leave us?

Dohnjoe · 06-03-2019 10:04PM

nullzero wrote: »

Getting an infraction isn't the same as being banned.

Yeaah, but infractions do lead to bans. There's also insta-bans

Do you support people being banned from this platform or no?

At least you're consistent with your condescending and nonsensical posting, keep up the winky faces, I'm looking forward to some rolleyes.

It was a joke to demonstrate a point, chill

kowloon · 06-03-2019 10:06PM

That Alex Jones Returns podcast with Joe Rogan was highly entertaining. A little conflicted about how the guy clearly needs help, but he's not harming anyone directly. People acting on anything he says are just as mad.

HappyAsLarE · 06-03-2019 10:12PM

super_furry wrote: »

Since where are huge multi-national companies like Twitter and Alphabet the 'regressive left'?

I thought it was common knowledge that these companies have policies anchored in very left ideologies.

Two examples that come to mind:
The whole James Damore memo thing at Google.
Twitter not allowing trans denial.

nullzero · 06-03-2019 10:13PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Yeaah, but infractions do lead to bans. There's also insta-bans

Do you support people being banned from this platform or no?

It was a joke to demonstrate a point, chill

You're really reaching here pal, have a nice evening.

Dohnjoe · 06-03-2019 10:27PM

nullzero wrote: »

You're really reaching here pal, have a nice evening.

No prob. But it's a straightforward question that does highlight some of the double standards in replies in this thread

Namely people who seem to be against bans on a social media platform, but support bans on another social media platform - which doesn't make much sense

greencap · 06-03-2019 10:43PM

this thread is an ironic joke by the boards admins right?

nobody real actually thinks some of this shyte.

its an ironic conspiracy.

the pro-jones conspiracy theorists are actually planted boards agents.

and everyone else who is arguing that theres not a conspiracy against jones, is having that argument with agents of a conspiracy by boards.

nullzero · 06-03-2019 11:14PM

greencap wrote: »

this thread is an ironic joke by the boards admins right?

nobody real actually thinks some of this shyte.

its an ironic conspiracy.

the pro-jones conspiracy theorists are actually planted boards agents.

and everyone else who is arguing that theres not a conspiracy against jones, is having that argument with agents of a conspiracy by boards.

Just dipping back in here to put one thing straight, I believe in free speech, not Alex Jones, not once have I defended him.
You need to get your facts straight.

greencap · 06-03-2019 11:29PM

nullzero wrote: »

Just dipping back in here to put one thing straight, I believe in free speech, not Alex Jones, not once have I defended him.
You need to get your facts straight.

I don't recall mentioning your name.

paranoid buffoon.

kowloon · 06-03-2019 11:40PM

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