Do we really need to build the Metrolink?

Zebra3 · 26-02-2019 05:46PM

Rulmeq wrote: »

It's in-between in terms of size, but it's far superior to both. It will run on a dedicated track (no competittion with inter-city rail, etc), and no interactions with cars or pedestrians. If they go with the fully automated option, then the lack of drivers means they can have 24/7 service, and no strikes.

Surely other strikes apart from drivers can still effect a PT system?

cluane · 26-02-2019 06:10PM

Out of curiosity, what happened to:

1. Metro North stations DCU, Griffith Avenue, Drumcondra, Parnell Square and O'Connell Bridge?
2. Metro West?

Rulmeq · 26-02-2019 06:23PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Surely other strikes apart from drivers can still effect a PT system?

Indeed, but it means you won't have driver strikes.

CatInABox · 26-02-2019 06:26PM

cluane wrote: »

Out of curiosity, what happened to:

1. Metro North stations DCU, Griffith Avenue, Drumcondra, Parnell Square and O'Connell Bridge?
2. Metro West?

The line was moved further west, the big advantage of which is to provide an interchange station at Whitworth Rd, allowing the Metrolink to link in with two different dart lines.

DCU still has a stop at the corner of Ballymun Rd and Collins Ave.

Griffith Avenue has a stop close by, in Griffith Park. It may have moved further away in the final plans though, that's the whole Na Fianna thing.

Parnell Sq is replaced by the O'Connell St station.

O'Connell Bridge was one of the most complex stations to build, and therefore the most costly. Moving it to Tara St also allows for interchange with the Dart.

Metro West was reconsidered, as the NTA believe that a Bus Connects style corridor will be sufficient along that route for the foreseeable future. No word yet on that plan.

Mutant z · 26-02-2019 06:35PM

Im so bloody sick of hearing all these ambitious projects about to be built which dont even get to the first brick on the ground either build it or dont or simply stop wasting everyone's time on things which are never going to be completed more action and less talk please so if they are really serious about this then they must get out their shovels asap or shut the hell up about it and leading everyone along.

tom1ie · 27-02-2019 09:49AM

Mutant z wrote: »

Im so bloody sick of hearing all these ambitious projects about to be built which dont even get to the first brick on the ground either build it or dont or simply stop wasting everyone's time on things which are never going to be completed more action and less talk please so if they are really serious about this then they must get out their shovels asap or shut the hell up about it and leading everyone along.

It’s a section of people (nimbys) in rathgar, the media and spineless self preserving councilors that are delaying this project. Granted the nta and the (excuse for a) minister for transport should be getting behind the project more, but make no mistake it’s the noisy minority that are holding this up. Likewise for bus connects, wait until you see the kickback against the f spine in kimmage/sundrive etc. same goes for rathfarnham. Bus connects will never be delivered in the way the nta and the majority of dubliners hope for it to be delivered, but what do you expect when the media only want to hear the “Im hard done by side of the story.”

cgcsb · 27-02-2019 12:29PM

cluane wrote: »

Out of curiosity, what happened to:

1. Metro North stations DCU, Griffith Avenue, Drumcondra, Parnell Square and O'Connell Bridge?
2. Metro West?

Transport 21, was a 2005 FF plan, has since been cancelled.

cgcsb · 27-02-2019 12:34PM

Mutant z wrote: »

Im so bloody sick of hearing all these ambitious projects about to be built which dont even get to the first brick on the ground either build it or dont or simply stop wasting everyone's time on things which are never going to be completed more action and less talk please so if they are really serious about this then they must get out their shovels asap or shut the hell up about it and leading everyone along.

Agreed, way too much consultation. Planning should have been submitted in December under a fast track planning scheme, Permission should be granted next week, a contractor appointed in June, work starting in August, completed in 2024. But sure that's no fun.

tom1ie · 27-02-2019 02:08PM

cgcsb wrote: »

Agreed, way too much consultation. Planning should have been submitted in December under a fast track planning scheme, Permission should be granted next week, a contractor appointed in June, work starting in August, completed in 2024. But sure that's no fun.

If only. :rolleyes:

CatInABox · 28-02-2019 05:20PM

Davydout wrote: »

What about the Drumcondra stop? That would have connected to IE.

It would have, but only to one of the lines. Whitworth allows for interchange with both lines.

riddlinrussell · 28-02-2019 05:20PM

Davydout wrote: »

What about the Drumcondra stop? That would have connected to IÉ.

It would, but only to one line, the only way to get both IÉ lines connected at Drumcondra would be to have the metro station (And a Dart Station) right on the canal, at which point you still would have a walk up the road to Drumcondra.

By shifting the course of the line up to Whitworth road, both lines are close enough together (And at close to equal elevation, unlike at Drumcondra) that you can put a platform in between them both for rapid transfer from say, a Maynooth DART to a Heuston DART (or whatever potential DART routes linking both lines achieves) and then you can go down a level and hop on a Metro to the airport or Sandyford/Stephens Green.

MonkieSocks · 28-02-2019 05:36PM

If You build It he will come

Do we really need to build the Metrolink?

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