Calls to ban James Bond number plates..

drunkmonkey · 27-02-2019 08:14AM #1

Ross at it again, not happy that we've all given up the drink he wants us to get caught speeding now as well. Won't be happy until we're pushing our cars up the M50.

"James Bond-style revolving or retractable licence plates are being used by boy racers to avoid paying tolls and speeding fines, gardaí are warning.

Officers say that devices which can be purchased online for as little as €70 are being installed onto cars, which allows drivers to shield their licence plates from detection at the press of a button.

Transport Minister Shane Ross has been called on to “ban them immediately”. https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/boy-racers-are-using-james-bond-style-retractable-licence-plates-to-dodge-tolls-and-fines-907350.html

The plates in question https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stealth-car-number-reg-plate-hide-shutter-Euro-license-registration-curtain-fees-/163036099154

Markcheese · 27-02-2019 08:26AM

And...?

Suckler · 27-02-2019 08:33AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Ross at it again, not happy that we've all given up the drink

Have we? Pubs/nightclubs/off licenses/wine bars/restaurants etc. haven't been told this....

drunkmonkey wrote: »

he wants us to get caught speeding now as well.

Not just him. I'm happy to see you get caught speeding. In any case, that line you've written is a lie.

As you included in your own post :

drunkmonkey wrote: »

"James Bond-style revolving or retractable licence plates are being used by boy racers to avoid paying tolls and speeding fines

Atoms for Peace · 27-02-2019 08:37AM

Obscuring your plates is surely a crime already? The usual story of bringing in new legislation while the present rules aren't being enforced.

alchemist33 · 27-02-2019 08:37AM

"A comment from Mr Ross was sought but was not forthcoming"

How can "Ross be at it again" when he hasn't actually said anything? Why did you post a link and not read the article?

Alf Veedersane · 27-02-2019 08:37AM

What's wrong with banning those plates and what does it have to do with not being allowed to drink and drive?

Tefral · 27-02-2019 08:41AM

They are illegal already so just like other motor laws just enforce them.

It's very prescriptive in the construction, equipment and use of vehicles act on how plates are to be fitted and that article also says the finance act covers it too.

Storm in a tea cup.

johnmcdnl · 27-02-2019 08:41AM

What's the issue with banning them?

Isn't it an offence to have the wrong number plate displayed, so you'd be prosecuted for using one of these in any case.

amcalester · 27-02-2019 08:44AM

**** them, if they use the road they can pay the toll.

Peregrinus · 27-02-2019 08:51AM

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Obscuring your plates is surely a crime already? The usual story of bringing in new legislation while the present rules aren't being enforced.

The usual story of not asking why the present rules are not being enforced. While it is an offence to fail to display your number plates, identifying drivers who fail to display their plates can be difficult (for obvious reasons), esp. if they can easily display them or not at the touch of a button. And if you can't identify them, you can't prosecute them. So a law which bans the sale of these devices, or bans having them fitted to your car, may be much easier to enforce than the present law which simply penalises their use.

drunkmonkey · 27-02-2019 08:52AM

Tefral wrote: »

They are illegal already so just like other motor laws just enforce them.

My back plates would be illegal then going by the article, the plate sits in a frame and the frame is attached to the car, kinda looks like the ones there on about unfortunately fitted by the dealer and not Q.

salmocab · 27-02-2019 08:53AM

Just for some clarification OP do you want to be able to speed and drink drive or do you think you should only do one at a time?

drunkmonkey · 27-02-2019 09:02AM

salmocab wrote: »

Just for some clarification OP do you want to be able to speed and drink drive or do you think you should only do one at a time?

If you can manage both more power to you, I'd be happy with Ross spontaneously combusting though.

salmocab · 27-02-2019 09:04AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

If you can manage both more power to you, I'd be happy with Ross spontaneously combusting though.

You seem angry about something

theteal · 27-02-2019 09:05AM

Really stretching for some outrage there, OP

drunkmonkey · 27-02-2019 09:06AM

salmocab wrote: »

You seem angry about something

Paying for Ross's pension does irk me a little.

Alf Veedersane · 27-02-2019 09:13AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Paying for Ross's pension does irk me a little.

What is the problem with banning these plates?

Henry Ford III · 27-02-2019 09:14AM

The worst behaved boy racers have never been dealt with adequately.

B-D-P-- · 27-02-2019 09:20AM

1. I find it odd that a system to block a numberplate is not already banned.

2. Is there that many people using them that Shane Ross needed to speak out about it or is he just "clickbaiting talk"?

Liam McPoyle · 27-02-2019 09:24AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Ross at it again, not happy that we've all given up the drink he wants us to get caught speeding now as well. Won't be happy until we're pushing our cars up the M50.

"James Bond-style revolving or retractable licence plates are being used by boy racers to avoid paying tolls and speeding fines, gardaí are warning.

Officers say that devices which can be purchased online for as little as €70 are being installed onto cars, which allows drivers to shield their licence plates from detection at the press of a button.

Transport Minister Shane Ross has been called on to “ban them immediately”. https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/boy-racers-are-using-james-bond-style-retractable-licence-plates-to-dodge-tolls-and-fines-907350.html

The plates in question https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stealth-car-number-reg-plate-hide-shutter-Euro-license-registration-curtain-fees-/163036099154

So you expect to allowed to drink and drive?

As far as I'm concerned there should a zero tolerance approach to DD. Any alcohol consumed before driving should result in a ban. If people can't manage that then they don't deserve to be allowed drive anyway.

ednwireland · 27-02-2019 09:25AM

Ross seems to think new laws fix everything rather than enforce the existing ones. a malaise that seems to exist in politics generally. easier to say you brought in a law than actually fix anything.

micks_address · 27-02-2019 09:29AM

These are cool... Would it be ok to have one if you just had different style plates with same numbers?

fancy pigeon · 27-02-2019 09:38AM

Thought these were illegal anyway?

theteal · 27-02-2019 09:44AM

What about a little set of auto-curtains?

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 27-02-2019 09:44AM

It's already illegal to not have a license plate displayed on the vehicle.

Disappointed at OP because previously I liked their posts

Saw gardai catch one of these a few months ago , was an Audi too funny enough :rolleyes:

drunkmonkey · 27-02-2019 09:47AM

Liam McPoyle wrote: »

So you expect to allowed to drink and drive?

I expect a decent rural transport service that runs at times when people need to get to or from work and a safe way home after a few pints.
I'd also expect a minister for transport to actually do something about making it happen rather than weasel his way out of it by calling anyone that takes him to task on it a Healy Ray.

Isambard · 27-02-2019 10:09AM

we have a few boy racers locally, they're decent lads who spend all their money on their cars and can't afford to do anything else but park up somewhere and have the craic.

I don't believe revolving numberplates are an issue anyone need worry about, if they exist it will be in tiny numbers, much better to concentrate efforts on illegal cars...those not insured taxed and NCTd (not to mention not properly licensed) would be a much bigger problem, and stopping such drivers might well throw up numberplate irregularities too.

salmocab · 27-02-2019 10:48AM

B-D-P-- wrote: »

1. I find it odd that a system to block a numberplate is not already banned.

2. Is there that many people using them that Shane Ross needed to speak out about it or is he just "clickbaiting talk"?

Shane Ross said nothing it was raised by others and the examiner said a response wasn’t forthcoming from him.
Nobody thinks he’s a waste more than me but on this story it’s nothing whatsoever to do with Ross.

Zubeneschamali · 27-02-2019 10:55AM

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Obscuring your plates is surely a crime already?

Yes, but you would have to catch the driver with the plates obscured.

If you stop them and they have trick plates but they are not obscured at that moment, then they are OK.

artanevilla · 27-02-2019 10:56AM

Atlantic Dawn · 27-02-2019 11:07AM

Knowing this country they will setup a separate branch of Customs to intercept packages of 520 mm × 111 mm coming through the post rather than use existing legislation.

Calls to ban James Bond number plates..

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