Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

Plumbthedepths · 20-02-2019 06:31PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote:

Haven't researched this - I'd say there's an enormous differential.

So you question how many posters here may not have finished school but you have no idea how many travellers are in the workforce? I'll give you a clue it's a very small number. Any thoughts why or do you seek to blame everyone other than the traveller?

20-02-2019 06:43PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

So you question how many posters here may not have finished school but you have no idea how many travellers are in the workforce?

I have a rough idea of both, based on ESRI stats. I'm not so much as interested in the precise figures, just wondering whether people are capable of drawing a correlation between their upbringing, and that of young travellers today.

I'll give you a clue it's a very small number. Any thoughts why or do you seek to blame everyone other than the traveller?

In the past, on this website, I've been accused of being a racist for suggesting that traveller parents (indeed, all parents) who consistently fail to send their children to school, should have their children taken away.

I certainly don't deny that travellers, in general, need to improve their efforts in ensuring that all of their children are capable of participating in our economy. At the same time, it's obvious that employers are discriminating against travellers, which can render all of that hard work futile.

Plumbthedepths · 20-02-2019 06:50PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote:

I have a rough idea of both, based on ESRI stats. I'm not so much as interested in the precise figures, just wondering whether people are capable of drawing a correlation between their upbringing, and that of young travellers today.

You mean must people want to provide for themselves and work hard to do so whereas travellers seek to have others provide for them just as Mags does.

Plumbthedepths · 20-02-2019 06:51PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote:

I certainly don't deny that travellers, in general, need to improve their efforts in ensuring that all of their children are capable of participating in our economy. At the same time, it's obvious that employers are discriminating against travellers, which can render all of that hard work futile.

If it's so obvious you will have no problem backing up your claim, when you are ready.....

marieholmfan · 20-02-2019 06:58PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

So you question how many posters here may not have finished school but you have no idea how many travellers are in the workforce? I'll give you a clue it's a very small number. Any thoughts why or do you seek to blame everyone other than the traveller?

Do you have a source for that?

freshpopcorn · 20-02-2019 07:01PM

60% off youth and 80% overall.
I just skimmed the article tough.
More younger people in sine form of education tough.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/traveller-youth-and-high-unemployment-highlighted-in-census-1.3253673%3fmode=amp

20-02-2019 07:05PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

If it's so obvious you will have no problem backing up your claim, when you are ready.....

Gladly. What statement would you like to see evidence for?

20-02-2019 07:07PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Just an example of high profile people Gavin Duffy and Sean Gallagher said during the presidential election and they'd gladly hire and live beside travellers.

wHy wOulD tHeY LiE?

Plumbthedepths · 20-02-2019 07:08PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote:

Gladly. What statement would you like to see evidence for?

You claimed employers are discriminating against travellers. Your claim, back it up.

freshpopcorn · 20-02-2019 07:13PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

wHy wOulD tHeY LiE?

When I look at Twitter/etc. There view is very popular. They were applauded for it as was Michael D. So all those people out there must love members of the travelling community and would gladly work/hire(If they applied) or live near travellers.

punisher5112 · 20-02-2019 07:16PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

When I look at Twitter/etc. There view is very popular. They were applauded for it as was Michael D. So all those people out there must love members of the travelling community and would gladly work/hire(If they applied) or live near travellers.

I spat out my tea in my very expensive China tea cup .....

20-02-2019 07:16PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You claimed employers are discriminating against travellers. Your claim, back it up.

Ah sure you're only throwing me soft-balls now, you're being too gentle.

Krieger et al, All-Ireland Traveller-Health Study, 2005; in which travellers experienced almost twice as much discrimination as black Americans when applying for employment.

Ask me a harder one. This is too easy.

Edgware · 20-02-2019 07:17PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

But they find their first cousin so damn attractive.

Ya Biddy looked so hot with the fake tan she had on the day of her First Communion

Plumbthedepths · 20-02-2019 07:19PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote:

Ask me a harder one. This is too easy.

Okey dokey, Mags has claimed the Gubbermint is robbing her blind. Since she makes no contribution to government coffers but receives all her income from the state can you explain her logic in her contention to being robbed?

20-02-2019 07:19PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

When I look at Twitter/etc. There view is very popular. They were applauded for it as was Michael D. So all those people out there must love members of the travelling community and would gladly work/hire(If they applied) or live near travellers.

Twitter is not representative of public opinion, it contains a huge in-built demographic anomaly - its users are typically middle-class, educated, average-income earners or higher.

Edgware · 20-02-2019 07:20PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Ah sure you're only throwing me soft-balls now, you're being too gentle.

Krieger et al, All-Ireland Traveller-Health Study, 2005; in which travellers experienced almost twice as much discrimination as black Americans when applying for employment.

Ask me a harder one. This is too easy.

How many have you or any of your family/friends have employed them to "do the gutters" " cut the hedge etc?

20-02-2019 07:21PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Okey dokey, Mags has claimed the Gubbermint is robbing her blind. Since she makes no contribution to government coffers but receives all her income from the state can you explain her logic in her contention to being robbed?

Your turn to provide evidence, my dude. Can you quote me what she said? I haven't read it.

Plumbthedepths · 20-02-2019 07:21PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote:

Twitter is not representative of public opinion, it contains a huge in-built demographic anomaly - its users are typically middle-class, educated, average-income earners or higher.

You could have just said those that work.

20-02-2019 07:22PM

Edgware wrote: »

How many have you or any of your family/friends have employed them to "do the gutters" " cut the hedge etc?

We had them camp at the front gate to our farm once upon a time. Lovely people, wonderful horsemanship, very enviable. Even managed to sell them a pony. No regrets.

Plumbthedepths · 20-02-2019 07:24PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote:

Your turn to provide evidence, my dude. Can you quote me what she said? I haven't read it.

So you don't want to answer a question you asked for? If you wish to find out where she said it, you could listen the podcast quoted here from 4fms Niall Boylan show. I'm not trawling posts for you.

Ha Long Bay · 20-02-2019 07:24PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Your turn to provide evidence, my dude. Can you quote me what she said? I haven't read it.

1m 30seconds

https://www.classichits.ie/podcasts/niall-boylan/episode/margaret-cash-interview/?autoplay=1

freshpopcorn · 20-02-2019 07:26PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Twitter is not representative of public opinion, it contains a huge in-built demographic anomaly - its users are typically middle-class, educated, average-income earners or higher.

Yes and those are the people who do the hiring in my experience. So they all seem to be on board for hiring travellers when they seek employment. Norah Casey is another name that springs to mind.
The government should also look at housing or building traveller accomdation in these areas because it's seems to be what the demographic want. It might speed things up.

Plumbthedepths · 20-02-2019 07:37PM

Looks like I asked the Tyrant a hard question........ tumbleweed...... It's ok though I don't understand how the Gubbermint is robbing her blind either .

20-02-2019 08:02PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Looks like I asked the Tyrant a hard question........ tumbleweed...... It's ok though I don't understand how the Gubbermint is robbing her blind either .

no - I just don't know what you're on about. Unlike your good self, I don't follow all of her statements.

What's the exact quote?

DavidLyons_ · 20-02-2019 08:44PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Looks like I asked the Tyrant a hard question........ tumbleweed...... It's ok though I don't understand how the Gubbermint is robbing her blind either .

no - I just don't know what you're on about. Unlike your good self, I don't follow all of her statements.

What's the exact quote?

Ah here. Talk about deflection!! Your posts are a fcuking joke.

“De gubbermint is robbin us alive!! De gubbermint is robbin us alive!! Winter is cummin! Winter is cummin!”

Post 6926 from john4321 especially for you up there.

20-02-2019 08:51PM

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

Ah here. Talk about deflection!! Your posts are a fcuking joke.

Simply asked a question, David.

Seems to me that she just expressed some concern for people sleeping on the street over winter.

What exactly is the problem here, what exactly am I being asked to prove?

DavidLyons_ · 20-02-2019 08:59PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Simply asked a question, David.

Seems to me that she just expressed some concern for people sleeping on the street over winter.

What exactly is the problem here, what exactly am I being asked to prove?

Plumbthedepths asked you “Mags has claimed the Gubbermint is robbing her blind. Since she makes no contribution to government coffers but receives all her income from the state can you explain her logic in her contention to being robbed?”.

You asked for evidence of her comment. You were given the audio of same in which she very clearly makes the comment in Post No. 6926.

You continue to deflect. Impossible to take your obtuse posts seriously. Onto my ignore list you go.

Kivaro · 20-02-2019 09:01PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Your turn to provide evidence, my dude. Can you quote me what she said? I haven't read it.

What planet are you on?

There are so many soundbites out there of her complaining that the gubbermint is robbing her blind that I've heard it as a ringtone.
I get the feeling though that she has a different interpretation for "robbing" when she appears in court for it.

20-02-2019 09:08PM

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

Plumbthedepths asked you “Mags has claimed the Gubbermint is robbing her blind. Since she makes no contribution to government coffers but receives all her income from the state can you explain her logic in her contention to being robbed?”.

You asked for evidence of her comment. You were given the audio of same in which she very clearly makes the comment in Post No. 6926.

You continue to deflect. Impossible to take your obtuse posts seriously. Onto my ignore list you go.

Not deflecting anything, David. Calm yourself down.

I doubt that Margaret Cash makes no contribution to the Government, I assume she pays up to 23% VAT on items that she purchases, just like the rest of us. I don't follow her personal life as closely as you do, so perhaps she also pays income tax in her own right, or with a partner. I'm sure you'll be along shortly to fill me in on the minor aspects of her P60!

Sure lookit, we all have hobbies. I suppose yours is just a little less conventional.

Kivaro · 20-02-2019 09:11PM

Lads, after looking at the last post above, I wouldn't be inclined to feed it.

Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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