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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    molloyjh wrote: »
    Haha, I agree on the lots of garlic front. If you’re ever making anything from a recipe you always need to at least double the amount of garlic. I don’t get stinginess with garlic.

    If you want a second kid Molloy you’ll need to review that fondness for garlic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Guys, every mention of burgers from now on will be immediately translated into vagina in my head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    molloyjh wrote: »
    Haha, I agree on the lots of garlic front. If you’re ever making anything from a recipe you always need to at least double the amount of garlic. I don’t get stinginess with garlic.

    This. This man right here. This man gets it right 100% of the time. You cannot beat garlic....Ever.
    The local hotel at home used to do homemade chicken kiev which was gorgeous.... Absolutely dripping in garlic. I used to have it with garlic cubed potatoes and garlic bread.
    On a totally unrelated note I never had a girlfriend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    mfceiling wrote: »
    This. This man right here. This man gets it right 100% of the time. You cannot beat garlic....Ever.
    The local hotel at home used to do homemade chicken kiev which was gorgeous.... Absolutely dripping in garlic. I used to have it with garlic cubed potatoes and garlic bread.
    On a totally unrelated note I never had a girlfriend.

    Have you tried roasted whole garlic?

    Love bringing cloves of garlic back from the south of France.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    If you want a second kid Molloy you’ll need to review that fondness for garlic.

    By cooking for both of us I should be fine. Although it may limit our socialising options. But it’s worth it. My personal favourite is roast spuds with garlic, rosemary, parmesan & apple balsamic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    It’s very good raw for keeping colds at bay, may have a side affect of doing the same with people though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    troyzer wrote: »
    Guys, every mention of burgers from now on will be immediately translated into vagina in my head.

    Greasy and reeking of garlic?! :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Zzippy wrote: »
    troyzer wrote: »
    Guys, every mention of burgers from now on will be immediately translated into vagina in my head.

    Greasy and reeking of garlic?! :confused:

    Cheers for that image


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Can't believe Trump thinks he can just bypass the government process by declaring a national emergency. No doubt he thinks all's wall that ends wall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Can't believe Trump thinks he can just bypass the government process by declaring a national emergency. No doubt he thinks all's wall that ends wall.

    "I've already done a lot of wall"
    - Donald J. Trump


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Can't believe Trump thinks he can just bypass the government process by declaring a national emergency. No doubt he thinks all's wall that ends wall.

    I think he watched house of cards and thought it was a documentary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    stephen_n wrote: »
    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Can't believe Trump thinks he can just bypass the government process by declaring a national emergency. No doubt he thinks all's wall that ends wall.

    I think he watched house of cards and thought it was a documentary.

    The issue isn't what he can do with a national emergency. If it is an emergency, he can do what he says he's going to do.

    His problem is going to be proving to the courts that it's a national emergency. And he has a conservative majority on the Supreme Court.

    This will stand and open the flood gates to the next Democrat declaring an emergency after the first school shooting and banning semi autos. Republicans in the Senate know that and they're terrified that Trump is happy to up the ante to that extent for the sake of a ****ing wall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,741 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    The funniest thing about Trump is just the fact all they have to do is go to his Twitter account to find evidence of him saying the exact opposite of the point he's trying to make.

    He's declared a national emergency to build a wall to prevent illegal immigrants from entering the country. Yet last year he tweeted saying illegal immigration was at an all-time low.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    The funniest thing about Trump is just the fact all they have to do is go to his Twitter account to find evidence of him saying the exact opposite of the point he's trying to make.

    He's declared a national emergency to build a wall to prevent illegal immigrants from entering the country. Yet last year he tweeted saying illegal immigration was at an all-time low.

    Remember when he said he was going to have a Muslim ban, brought in the Muslim ban and then tried to argue to the courts that it wasn't a Muslim ban and therefore couldn't be discrimination?

    Gas craic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    RIP Bruno Ganz.

    Your memory will live on in Hitler Speech memes and parodies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    RIP Bruno Ganz.

    Your memory will live on in Hitler Speech memes and parodies.

    Sad that that's literally his greatest legacy. Not a decades long career as a master actor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Had brunch there a while ago. The two girls at the table beside me got their food while I was still waiting. They proceeded to take out digital cameras and photographing/videoing the food. Shooting it from multiple angles and various filters. Then took out their phones and did the same. 5 minutes later when my food arrived, they were still photographing the food. If a brunch happens in Dublin and there’s no one there to photograph it, would it still taste as nice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    stephen_n wrote: »
    Had brunch there a while ago. The two girls at the table beside me got their food while I was still waiting. They proceeded to take out digital cameras and photographing/videoing the food. Shooting it from multiple angles and various filters. Then took out their phones and did the same. 5 minutes later when my food arrived, they were still photographing the food. If a brunch happens in Dublin and there’s no one there to photograph it, would it still taste as nice?

    Leave them alone, culchie!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Leave them alone, culchie!

    He can't possibly be a culchie. Real culchies don't know what brunch is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Zzippy wrote: »
    He can't possibly be a culchie. Real culchies don't know what brunch is.

    Would you prefer if I said full Irish Breakfast after 12 o’clock?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Limerick's current dismantling of Kilkenny is glorious viewing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭Scythica


    Just had a long weekend in Hamburg.

    Recommend it. Quite a 'gritty' city (i.e you can tell people live and work there, rather than just for the tourists) but very friendly and a decent amount to do / see when there.

    And not just the Reeperbahn!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Just read an article in the Economist talking about circumcision.

    80% of American men are circumcised. That's a mental figure. Apparently they think it's healthier, cleaner and more aesthetically pleasing.

    Weird that parents are considering the latter.


  • Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Trying to decide how I feel about the citizenship of the ISIS bride being revoked in the UK.

    It's a political decision at this stage and one the Tories will benefit from, but there are far, far worse people in prison in the UK that will never be considered for deportation.

    I'm not overly familiar with all the details - but I gather the person in question has been unrepentant but have they actually broken any laws in the UK? I presume their association with terror organisations is a crime but were they involved in any actual attacks?

    I dunno, I can see the Dailymail getting giddy with themselves but I think it's a questionable precedent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Trying to decide how I feel about the citizenship of the ISIS bride being revoked in the UK.

    It's a political decision at this stage and one the Tories will benefit from, but there are far, far worse people in prison in the UK that will never be considered for deportation.

    I'm not overly familiar with all the details - but I gather the person in question has been unrepentant but have they actually broken any laws in the UK? I presume their association with terror organisations is a crime but were they involved in any actual attacks?

    I dunno, I can see the Dailymail getting giddy with themselves but I think it's a questionable precedent.

    I'm a bit torn over it as well. I'm sure she's prosecutable under any number of anti terrorist statutes. My issue is that while I found her obvious lack of remorse chilling, I also don't like how a minister can remove her citizenship for completely political reasons. The system should be process based or else it's just cruel and arbitrary.

    It's why I didn't like it when the Chinese kid from Bray was appealing to Simon Harris for a stay on his deportation. Or how every TD up and down the country manages to grease the wheel for every constituent who jumps up and down because of how long the driving test queue is.

    A failure to adhere to the rule of law is cruel and leads to chaos.

    The legal loophole Javid (the home secretary) is exploiting here is his power to remove citizenship from a dual national. She's not a dual national but her mother is Bangladeshi and so she's entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship. It'll be challenged and the home office might lose but his point would have been won by then all over the Daily Mail.

    I'd take her back and remind her how democracy and the rule of law works. Which includes prison.


  • Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    troyzer wrote: »
    I'm a bit torn over it as well. I'm sure she's prosecutable under any number of anti terrorist statutes. My issue is that while I found her obvious lack of remorse chilling, I also don't like how a minister can remove her citizenship for completely political reasons. The system should be process based or else it's just cruel and arbitrary.

    It's why I didn't like it when the Chinese kid from Bray was appealing to Simon Harris for a stay on his deportation. Or how every TD up and down the country manages to grease the wheel for every constituent who jumps up and down because of how long the driving test queue is.

    A failure to adhere to the rule of law is cruel and leads to chaos.

    The legal loophole Javid (the home secretary) is exploiting here is his power to remove citizenship from a dual national. She's not a dual national but her mother is Bangladeshi and so she's entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship. It'll be challenged and the home office might lose but his point would have been won by then all over the Daily Mail.

    I'd take her back and remind her how democracy and the rule of law works. Which includes prison.

    Just to tidy something up - that kid from Bray is Irish, has an Irish accent, Irish education and entirely Irish friends. He's no more Chinese than I am and every bit as Irish as my own kids, even if the law says otherwise.

    The ISIS bride is still surrounded by extremists so I doubt there is anything she would be willing to say against the party line and I can imagine those who were bombed by US and UK planes see any attack on the UK as justified, not that I agree with them but it wouldn't be an unreasonable conclusion.

    I hear what you are saying about the dual citizenship but I think if she was an Irish citizen I'd rather we brought her here to be dealt with.

    The more I reflect the more I think it's the wrong outcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    troyzer wrote: »
    I'm a bit torn over it as well. I'm sure she's prosecutable under any number of anti terrorist statutes. My issue is that while I found her obvious lack of remorse chilling, I also don't like how a minister can remove her citizenship for completely political reasons. The system should be process based or else it's just cruel and arbitrary.

    It's why I didn't like it when the Chinese kid from Bray was appealing to Simon Harris for a stay on his deportation. Or how every TD up and down the country manages to grease the wheel for every constituent who jumps up and down because of how long the driving test queue is.

    A failure to adhere to the rule of law is cruel and leads to chaos.

    The legal loophole Javid (the home secretary) is exploiting here is his power to remove citizenship from a dual national. She's not a dual national but her mother is Bangladeshi and so she's entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship. It'll be challenged and the home office might lose but his point would have been won by then all over the Daily Mail.

    I'd take her back and remind her how democracy and the rule of law works. Which includes prison.

    Just to tidy something up - that kid from Bray is Irish, has an Irish accent, Irish education and entirely Irish friends. He's no more Chinese than I am and every bit as Irish as my own kids, even if the law says otherwise.

    The ISIS bride is still surrounded by extremists so I doubt there is anything she would be willing to say against the party line and I can imagine those who were bombed by US and UK planes see any attack on the UK as justified, not that I agree with them but it wouldn't be an unreasonable conclusion.

    I hear what you are saying about the dual citizenship but I think if she was an Irish citizen I'd rather we brought her here to be dealt with.

    The more I reflect the more I think it's the wrong outcome.

    I totally agree and he should be able to stay. This situation should never have happened and the law should be changed to make sure he can stay.

    But as it stands, his salvation came at the foot of a public pressure campaign which basically forces the government to subvert the law. This will keep happening. I want our laws to work, not have to work around them.

    Same goes for tests, you shouldn't have to wait six months for one.

    I agree it's the wrong outcome. I wish she was going back to Britain and straight in a cell.


  • Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    troyzer wrote: »
    I totally agree and he should be able to stay. This situation should never have happened and the law should be changed to make sure he can stay.

    But as it stands, his salvation came at the foot of a public pressure campaign which basically forces the government to subvert the law. This will keep happening. I want our laws to work, not have to work around them.

    Same goes for tests, you shouldn't have to wait six months for one.

    I agree it's the wrong outcome. I wish she was going back to Britain and straight in a cell.

    There are a LOT of people that would have gladly seen that child sent to China and I was taken aback by how vitriolic people were towards the situation. You wouldn't hear the same rhetoric directed towards the undocumented Irish from anyone here.

    The ISIS bride situation is a lot bleaker - sounds like she was radicalised almost within her own family and fled at 15. She's now 18 but is absolutely clueless to the world and what she needs more than anything is an education. Whether she gets that in prison for her own protection or for societies is immaterial.

    Her comments about seeing beheading's was the part that gave me the most pause however. I think I'd be damaged for life if I saw something like that but she seemed sincere enough when she intimated that it didn't bother her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,741 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Trying to decide how I feel about the citizenship of the ISIS bride being revoked in the UK.

    It's a political decision at this stage and one the Tories will benefit from, but there are far, far worse people in prison in the UK that will never be considered for deportation.

    I'm not overly familiar with all the details - but I gather the person in question has been unrepentant but have they actually broken any laws in the UK? I presume their association with terror organisations is a crime but were they involved in any actual attacks?

    I dunno, I can see the Dailymail getting giddy with themselves but I think it's a questionable precedent.

    It's a tricky one. She left for Syria as a young child, at the age of 15, and as far as it's been suggested, she didn't hold a passport for any other nation than the UK.

    The issue arises in her comments about saying the Manchester attack was justified and that she has no regrets joining ISIS. If she hadn't said anything of the likes to the media, and said she just wanted to come home I would say she would've just been placed on a watchlist and nothing else made of it.

    But now the connotations is that the reason she's coming back is to recruit other young woman to join ISIS. And this will be something repeated constantly by the likes of the daily mail. And due to her comments, I would have to agree with this. She shows no sign of wanting to re-integrate with western culture, and is still supporting terrorist actions.

    It's one that will probably end up in front of the UN, as she now stands as stateless, because she doesn't hold a passport for Belgium, or the Netherlands where her husband is from.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,837 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I'm pretty unambiguous about it - it's wrong on every possible level.

    Knowing what to do about it is tricky and finding a path forward is difficult. Where the line should be drawn between punishment for her crimes and acknowledging that she was groomed as a 14/15 year old is tough. Disowning her and pretending it is not your problem and making her stateless is wrong and the act of cowards.


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