***** Motors chat - round 12 *****

ELM327 wrote: »

That is hilarious and really interesting.
Even has years of historical data.


My first car is on there!


Car Make ROVER Model 400 SERIES What's the engine size? 1396 What fuel type does your car use? PETROL What date was your car purchased? 04/01/2006 When was the car first registered? 1994

Has mine too! Only seems like yesterday

Car Make FIAT
Model TEMPRA
What's the engine size? 1581
What fuel type does your car use? PETROL
What date was your car purchased? 21/12/2005
When was the car first registered? 1992


Wonder how far back it stretches... I can only go back to 1978

Car Make LEYLAND
Model UNKNOWN
What's the engine size? 0
What fuel type does your car use? DIESEL
What date was your car purchased? 27/02/1978
When was the car first registered? 1971

A quick one lads. The mother in law is looking to buy a car, a Toyota C-HR is top of the list, she's driven a few and loves them. Looking at hybrids, but there's a small bit of a dilemma. She's seen a 171 car with 18,000km, it's a Sol which means it is the top of the range model with GPS, leather and other nice features. This is coming in at a sticker price of 28,500, and with an old Golf trade-in comes to 26900 (there was a lot of bargaining with little movement on this price). This is a from a Toyota dealer.

A brand new C-HR Sport model is 31,600 - scrappage comes to 29,500. No GPS, no leather but very similar in every other aspect. So we have a brand new 191 vs a better spec but still low mileage 171 for a 2600 difference.

To me all that information screams go for the new car, but the only trouble is that the original budget was 25k including whatever the trade-in would get. But this was pushed a bit for the 171 Sol at 26,900 and now is being pushed further to a new car. So we've landed at 30k. Which is quite the jump really.

What do you all reckon?

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

I'd spec up the new car on the configurator & find out what the list price of it is. Then work out if it's expensive for what it is. You're comparing apples & oranges a bit as it stands. To me the only dilemma is what's worth more to your MIL, 191 reg or bells & whistles, i'd personally prefer the latter.

Cheers, very good point.

The new Sol, high spec car is 34,595 excluding delivery charges etc. I'll have a chat with her later, I actually think she's drawn towards the high spec 171 car to be honest. She's out to see have a drive in the 171 Sol this afternoon so I'll see what she thinks! They definitely seem to be holding their value very well.

Augeo wrote: »

If GPS and leather are the only spec differences of note I'd be tempted to stump up the extra €3600 for the new car tbh.

+1
Then in 3 years you're selling a 1 owner 3yo instead of a 2owner 5yo car, for similar money.

Alanstrainor wrote: »

A quick one lads. The mother in law is looking to buy a car, a Toyota C-HR is top of the list, she's driven a few and loves them. Looking at hybrids, but there's a small bit of a dilemma. She's seen a 171 car with 18,000km, it's a Sol which means it is the top of the range model with GPS, leather and other nice features. This is coming in at a sticker price of 28,500, and with an old Golf trade-in comes to 26900 (there was a lot of bargaining with little movement on this price). This is a from a Toyota dealer.

A brand new C-HR Sport model is 31,600 - scrappage comes to 29,500. No GPS, no leather but very similar in every other aspect. So we have a brand new 191 vs a better spec but still low mileage 171 for a 2600 difference.

To me all that information screams go for the new car, but the only trouble is that the original budget was 25k including whatever the trade-in would get. But this was pushed a bit for the 171 Sol at 26,900 and now is being pushed further to a new car. So we've landed at 30k. Which is quite the jump really.

What do you all reckon?

Some things to note

The trade in booster apparently only lasts until end of February from the spiel I just read now. (My sister in law is in a similar position to your mother in law).

The hybrid system warranty has a stupidly short mileage limit both original 5 year warranty on hybrid parts and the yearly extension you get for doing annual hybrid health checks at the dealer up to 10 years old.

I'd stretch to the new one if possible - I'd always feel I paid stupid money for the 171 and id feel less happiness in the car as a result once the novelty wore off.

fancy pigeon wrote: »

Another quick Q!

Since I've changed the toll tag to the 607 it just won't pick it up since day 1... I've got a replacement tag in the post and it still doesn't work!

Before I'm told it's because it's French (:p) has anyone ever had this trouble before? The cameras pick it up on the M50 but at any other toll bridge I have to go to the booth

Does it have a UV protection windscreen?

The 171 is horrendous value. Sol model Toyotas are a novelty second hand but they’re not really worth much more outside of the Toyota dealer bubbble. A new one with warranty is a much better bet.

My sister in law wants the CHR too.

Thing about them is that they sell heavily on the look - and if you love the look - then nothing else will do.

Driving wise they are okay but don't feel a big leap forward in my opinion. That's for the 1.2 - not driven the hybrid.

The rear of the car is quite dark too for rear passengers - a CHR with NO privacy glass actually feels darker in the rear seat then a current model Nissan Leaf with rear privacy glass.

** stupid question alert **


I want to purchase standard font pressed metal plates from eireplates. The current plastic plates on the car are fixed with screws. For the new metal plates, are they stuck on using adhesive pads? There are 6 mm pads on the eireplates website... I'm guessing I need them?

Augeo wrote: »

Folk generally use double sided tape or the adhesive pads you mention ........or they drill holes in the plate on the white bits which are likely to require drilling more holes in the car/bumper to match up with them

Use old plate to drill holes already there.

Do not drill the new plates anyway, nothing ruins a set of platers like to big dirty screws. Use double sided tape for a nice clean look.

tossy wrote: »

Do not drill the new plates anyway, nothing ruins a set of platers like to big dirty screws. Use double sided tape for a nice clean look.

Yes I never realised how bad screws are until I got my current car which has stuck on plates they are so much neater and cleaner looking. Screws just look terrible no matter where you put them on the plate.

I always thought that double sided sticky wouldn't work on plates but I've used it on a few cars now and its held firm for years.

Any particular brand of tape?

Screws/Tape anything is better than number plate surrounds or holders:o