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Would you rather be homeless in Dublin or L.A.?

  • 18-02-2019 10:17AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭


    I read a thread on reddit of the best place for someone to be homeless. People were saying either Norway/Sweden with their socialist system while others were pointing out warm places in the U.S. like Los Angeles, Miami, Honolulu etc..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,207 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    ok


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    Pyongyang


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,757 ✭✭✭marcbrophy


    I heard on TV somewhere the California is super cool to the homeless!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭jjbrien


    If it was me I'd still prefer Dublin at lease if you get sick you would be looked after, wouldnt like to think what would happen in the states. Did see when I was in LA them feeding the homeless out of food tucks etc so they are well looked after there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭dotsman


    Dublin, of course.

    With very few social protections in the US, lots of people end up homeless, many down to issues outside their control. Likewise, in the US, homeless means homeless.

    In Dublin, it is mainly down to issues within my control. Also, being homeless, I probably have a home, I just don't have my forever home.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    if you got a crew together, you could live off the land in the US. Hunting, cabins, killing tourists etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Never Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭RiderOnTheStorm


    Def Dublin. I know my way around Dublin.... Never been to LA. I would be lost for a one & one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭noubliezjamais


    Def Dublin. I know my way around Dublin.... Never been to LA. I would be lost for a one & one.

    But what about the cold?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    I'd have to say Dublin.

    I know a few people there and I'm sure one of them would let me kip on the sofa till I got my shít together.
    Also if the worst comes to the worst, I could live in a hotel for a bit. Be like being on holidays, only shítter.

    Although Jennifer Lawrence does live in LA, I could stay with her I suppose.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,004 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Anyone answering LA is an idiot tbf.

    There's a bed for anyone who wants one in Dublin and if you've kids you're more likely to be put up in a hotel than a hostel. We have one of the most generous welfare systems in the world and, while the HSE is as far from perfect as Dublin is from LA, we do have socialised healthcare.

    In L.A., you'll be on the street in a country with a gun fetish, little or no government support and a healthcare system that abandons those with serious mental health problems to homelessness if they can't afford to pay for expensive private healthcare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I'd rather not be homeless at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,541 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Aside from weather you wouldn't want to be homeless in the LA or the US in general. Little to no welfare programs, no education programs available, housing.

    Its basically hell on earth for anyone unlucky enough to be homeless in the states as neither of the big two parties care and crime, disease etc is rife in places like skid row.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    I need to find out if the council ever fixed poor Erica Fleming’s draughty windows in her foreva home before I answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    But what about the cold?


    LA can get just as cold as Dublin during winter. Which is not very cold at all really.

    Dublin has the best climate if you're homeless. Not too cold and not too hot, we're the goldilocks zone if you're down on your luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    According to Dublin City Council CEO Owen Keegan:
    "massive investment in homeless services has led to a reluctance in some people to move on."

    This is the height of insanity. Pour millions and millions of tax-payer money into a non-existent "crisis" and now we have a system where people are choosing to remain homeless because of the extremely high-quality services that they are currently getting by declaring themselves as homeless in Dublin.
    It's a weird, weird world we are living in at the moment (in Ireland).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Kivaro wrote: »
    According to Dublin City Council CEO Owen Keegan:
    "massive investment in homeless services has led to a reluctance in some people to move on."

    This is the height of insanity. Pour millions and millions of tax-payer money into a non-existent "crisis" and now we have a system where people are choosing to remain homeless because of the extremely high-quality services that they are currently getting by declaring themselves as homeless in Dublin.
    It's a weird, weird world we are living in at the moment (in Ireland).

    Yet we’re told everyday da gubberment don’t care about the homeless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    The homeless problem in LA is crazy, really has to be seen to be believed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭noubliezjamais


    LA can get just as cold as Dublin during winter. Which is not very cold at all really.

    Dublin has the best climate if you're homeless. Not too cold and not too hot, we're the goldilocks zone if you're down on your luck.

    I'm sorry but you're kidding right?

    Did you not see the weather at end of January last month? People were freezing to death. I've only gone to L.A. in the summer but my relative says that it's about 70F in the winter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I'm sorry but you're kidding right?

    Did you not see the weather at end of January last month? People were freezing to death. I've only gone to L.A. in the summer but my relative says that it's about 70F in the winter.

    Freezing to death , where ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Dublin. Anyone who says LA is misinformed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,164 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    LA can get just as cold as Dublin during winter. Which is not very cold at all really.

    Dublin has the best climate if you're homeless. Not too cold and not too hot, we're the goldilocks zone if you're down on your luck.

    You're bizarrely misinformed if you think LA and Dublin are about as cold as each other. Winter in LA more closely resembles Irish summer.

    The average temperature in LA in winter is about 14.5 degrees. Dublin's monthly average temperature only goes above 14.5 degrees 2 months of the year.

    The record lowest temperature in LA is -2 degrees, and in 140 years the city itself has only had 3 days of recorded snowfall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    I'm sorry but you're kidding right?

    Did you not see the weather at end of January last month? People were freezing to death. I've only gone to L.A. in the summer but my relative says that it's about 70F in the winter.

    Freezing to death where? It averages about 70F in Summer in LA. Not winter.
    You're bizarrely misinformed if you think LA and Dublin are about as cold as each other. Winter in LA more closely resembles Irish summer.

    The average temperature in LA in winter is about 14.5 degrees. Dublin's monthly average temperature only goes above 14.5 degrees 2 months of the year.

    The record lowest temperature in LA is -2 degrees, and in 140 years the city itself has only had 3 days of recorded snowfall.

    I said LA can be as cold as Ireland. This week alone we match them fairly closely in temps.

    My point being if you take the year as a whole and you are going to be without shelter, Ireland is the ticket. Given that it rarely gets too hot or too cold.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Anyone saying LA hasn't spent any time in LA.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,498 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I think many of the L.A. homeless try to get to S.F., which certainly had better homeless facilities about 15 years ago. Not so sure about now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,227 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    having experienced the homeless up close on both sides of the Atlantic - I would choose Dublin a 100 times over anywhere in America - what I experienced in San Fran was not pretty , and LA was no better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,635 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I would rather being homeless/jobless in Dublin than poor/working on the breadline in LA.

    We look after people fairly well here, despite the hysteria.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    Dublin.

    In LA, you would actually be homeless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Skid row in LA is like a third world disaster zone. There's also people living in the storm drain system.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    I'd have to say Dublin.

    I know a few people there and I'm sure one of them would let me kip on the sofa till I got my shít together.
    Also if the worst comes to the worst, I could live in a hotel for a bit. Be like being on holidays, only shítter.

    Although Jennifer Lawrence does live in LA, I could stay with her I suppose.

    Would you not stay in a pineapple under the sea?


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