Would you rather be homeless in Dublin or L.A.?

noubliezjamais

I read a thread on reddit of the best place for someone to be homeless. People were saying either Norway/Sweden with their socialist system while others were pointing out warm places in the U.S. like Los Angeles, Miami, Honolulu etc..

lawred2

ok

judeboy101

Pyongyang

marcbrophy

I heard on TV somewhere the California is super cool to the homeless!

jjbrien

If it was me I'd still prefer Dublin at lease if you get sick you would be looked after, wouldnt like to think what would happen in the states. Did see when I was in LA them feeding the homeless out of food tucks etc so they are well looked after there.

dotsman

Dublin, of course.

With very few social protections in the US, lots of people end up homeless, many down to issues outside their control. Likewise, in the US, homeless means homeless.

In Dublin, it is mainly down to issues within my control. Also, being homeless, I probably have a home, I just don't have my forever home.

sk8erboii

if you got a crew together, you could live off the land in the US. Hunting, cabins, killing tourists etc

biko

Never Dublin

RiderOnTheStorm

Def Dublin. I know my way around Dublin.... Never been to LA. I would be lost for a one & one.

noubliezjamais

RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »

Def Dublin. I know my way around Dublin.... Never been to LA. I would be lost for a one & one.

But what about the cold?

sbsquarepants

I'd have to say Dublin.

I know a few people there and I'm sure one of them would let me kip on the sofa till I got my shít together.
Also if the worst comes to the worst, I could live in a hotel for a bit. Be like being on holidays, only shítter.

Although Jennifer Lawrence does live in LA, I could stay with her I suppose.

Sleepy

Anyone answering LA is an idiot tbf.

There's a bed for anyone who wants one in Dublin and if you've kids you're more likely to be put up in a hotel than a hostel. We have one of the most generous welfare systems in the world and, while the HSE is as far from perfect as Dublin is from LA, we do have socialised healthcare.

In L.A., you'll be on the street in a country with a gun fetish, little or no government support and a healthcare system that abandons those with serious mental health problems to homelessness if they can't afford to pay for expensive private healthcare.

branie2

I'd rather not be homeless at all

rossie1977

Aside from weather you wouldn't want to be homeless in the LA or the US in general. Little to no welfare programs, no education programs available, housing.

Its basically hell on earth for anyone unlucky enough to be homeless in the states as neither of the big two parties care and crime, disease etc is rife in places like skid row.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WkvjD1ZK5o

Wheeliebin30

I need to find out if the council ever fixed poor Erica Fleming’s draughty windows in her foreva home before I answer.

PokeHerKing

noubliezjamais wrote:

But what about the cold?

LA can get just as cold as Dublin during winter. Which is not very cold at all really.

Dublin has the best climate if you're homeless. Not too cold and not too hot, we're the goldilocks zone if you're down on your luck.

Kivaro

According to Dublin City Council CEO Owen Keegan:
"massive investment in homeless services has led to a reluctance in some people to move on."

This is the height of insanity. Pour millions and millions of tax-payer money into a non-existent "crisis" and now we have a system where people are choosing to remain homeless because of the extremely high-quality services that they are currently getting by declaring themselves as homeless in Dublin.
It's a weird, weird world we are living in at the moment (in Ireland).

Wheeliebin30

Kivaro wrote: »

According to Dublin City Council CEO Owen Keegan:
"massive investment in homeless services has led to a reluctance in some people to move on."

This is the height of insanity. Pour millions and millions of tax-payer money into a non-existent "crisis" and now we have a system where people are choosing to remain homeless because of the extremely high-quality services that they are currently getting by declaring themselves as homeless in Dublin.
It's a weird, weird world we are living in at the moment (in Ireland).

Yet we’re told everyday da gubberment don’t care about the homeless.

Bobby Baccala

The homeless problem in LA is crazy, really has to be seen to be believed.

noubliezjamais

PokeHerKing wrote: »

LA can get just as cold as Dublin during winter. Which is not very cold at all really.

Dublin has the best climate if you're homeless. Not too cold and not too hot, we're the goldilocks zone if you're down on your luck.

I'm sorry but you're kidding right?

Did you not see the weather at end of January last month? People were freezing to death. I've only gone to L.A. in the summer but my relative says that it's about 70F in the winter.

corner of hells

noubliezjamais wrote: »

I'm sorry but you're kidding right?

Did you not see the weather at end of January last month? People were freezing to death. I've only gone to L.A. in the summer but my relative says that it's about 70F in the winter.

Freezing to death , where ?

wakka12

Dublin. Anyone who says LA is misinformed

CrabRevolution

PokeHerKing wrote: »

LA can get just as cold as Dublin during winter. Which is not very cold at all really.

Dublin has the best climate if you're homeless. Not too cold and not too hot, we're the goldilocks zone if you're down on your luck.

You're bizarrely misinformed if you think LA and Dublin are about as cold as each other. Winter in LA more closely resembles Irish summer.

The average temperature in LA in winter is about 14.5 degrees. Dublin's monthly average temperature only goes above 14.5 degrees 2 months of the year.

The record lowest temperature in LA is -2 degrees, and in 140 years the city itself has only had 3 days of recorded snowfall.

PokeHerKing

noubliezjamais wrote: »

I'm sorry but you're kidding right?

Did you not see the weather at end of January last month? People were freezing to death. I've only gone to L.A. in the summer but my relative says that it's about 70F in the winter.

Freezing to death where? It averages about 70F in Summer in LA. Not winter.

CrabRevolution wrote: »

You're bizarrely misinformed if you think LA and Dublin are about as cold as each other. Winter in LA more closely resembles Irish summer.

The average temperature in LA in winter is about 14.5 degrees. Dublin's monthly average temperature only goes above 14.5 degrees 2 months of the year.

The record lowest temperature in LA is -2 degrees, and in 140 years the city itself has only had 3 days of recorded snowfall.

I said LA can be as cold as Ireland. This week alone we match them fairly closely in temps.

My point being if you take the year as a whole and you are going to be without shelter, Ireland is the ticket. Given that it rarely gets too hot or too cold.

Amirani

Anyone saying LA hasn't spent any time in LA.

spurious

I think many of the L.A. homeless try to get to S.F., which certainly had better homeless facilities about 15 years ago. Not so sure about now.

thebaz

having experienced the homeless up close on both sides of the Atlantic - I would choose Dublin a 100 times over anywhere in America - what I experienced in San Fran was not pretty , and LA was no better.

PARlance

I would rather being homeless/jobless in Dublin than poor/working on the breadline in LA.

We look after people fairly well here, despite the hysteria.

Naos

Dublin.

In LA, you would actually be homeless.

Odhinn

Skid row in LA is like a third world disaster zone. There's also people living in the storm drain system.

Shanotheslayer

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I'd have to say Dublin.

I know a few people there and I'm sure one of them would let me kip on the sofa till I got my shít together.
Also if the worst comes to the worst, I could live in a hotel for a bit. Be like being on holidays, only shítter.

Although Jennifer Lawrence does live in LA, I could stay with her I suppose.

Would you not stay in a pineapple under the sea?

corner of hells

Odhinn wrote: »

Skid row in LA is like a third world disaster zone. There's also people living in the storm drain system.

I do believe there are people living in drains in Paris too.

Richard Hillman

Homeless on a Pacific Island

Jurgen Klopp

Wouldn't fancy California for example San Francisco

Lots of rich people virtue signalling about the poor and how they need to be helped then demanding the city council or whatever you call it basically sweep away all teh homeless and their tents cause the sight offends them

Check out for example "tech bro" a proper little arse hole

Parts of Canada are pretty bad as well. Vancouver is pretty scary and a small city I was in had a beautiful yacht club and Marina near the nice street with bars and restaurants then the next street over had a couple of hundred homeless with shopping trolleys, tents made from bedsheets, open defecation, all the good stuff.

zapitastas

spurious wrote: »

I think many of the L.A. homeless try to get to S.F., which certainly had better homeless facilities about 15 years ago. Not so sure about now.

San Francisco is full of homeless people mainly due to changes in the way in which people with mental health issues were treated. Also I think I read somewhere that they were trialing robots in SF to move homeless and undesirable people on from areas where people didn't want to view them

mad muffin

Dubai

Mad_maxx

Sleepy wrote: »

Anyone answering LA is an idiot tbf.

There's a bed for anyone who wants one in Dublin and if you've kids you're more likely to be put up in a hotel than a hostel. We have one of the most generous welfare systems in the world and, while the HSE is as far from perfect as Dublin is from LA, we do have socialised healthcare.

In L.A., you'll be on the street in a country with a gun fetish, little or no government support and a healthcare system that abandons those with serious mental health problems to homelessness if they can't afford to pay for expensive private healthcare.

The same thing that happened the mentally unwell in America, also happened here, at the behest of liberals, the old mental institutions were closed down, thus leaving those unfortunate people to fend for themselves, the result was a huge increase in both prison rates and homeless figures

Mad_maxx

zapitastas wrote: »

San Francisco is full of homeless people mainly due to changes in the way in which people with mental health issues were treated. Also I think I read somewhere that they were trialing robots in SF to move homeless and undesirable people on from areas where people didn't want to view them

You can thank liberals for that

One flew over the cuckoo's nest was a huge influence on policy

Hedgelayer

LA because half the celebs dress like tramp's anyhow, it would be easy enough to fit in.

fatknacker

LA seems to have a lot more scary violent shouty people. I'd probably be less likely called a "cracker assed bitch" in Dublin and get the AIDS put into me.
Not to say there aren't scary skangers here too, but much less so.

I'm not sure I'd be interested in the hostels here though. As far as I'm concerned criminal gangs love them.

They keep their customers and foot soldiers in food and warmth meaning there's a constant supply to peddle their wares around the city.

Good luck to you if you're trying to stay off the dope. You'll be put in a room with 2/3 or more active users. Addict factories.

Manic Moran

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

Wouldn't fancy California for example San Francisco

Lots of rich people virtue signalling about the poor and how they need to be helped then demanding the city council or whatever you call it basically sweep away all teh homeless and their tents cause the sight offends them

Check out for example "tech bro" a proper little arse hole

It’s not so much that the sight offends them, but the problem is now starting to bite into their bottom lines. SF is beginning to get a poor rep with tourists and, more importantly, conventions, who are now moving somewhere else. The begging is getting so aggressive that convention goers plain feel unsafe. https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/07/02/big-convention-pulls-out-san-francisco-citing-unsafe-streets/ We have a poop app, for crying out loud, so that residents can avoid stepping in human faeces as they go about their business. My wife had a great little flat... she just had to pay $2,400 a month for the 700sq footer in the Tenderloin where she had to walk over junkies on the way to her office.

I’m in SF right now, as it happens, did a quick stop off. Every time I come here since I moved to Texas a few months ago, I am reminded of what the homeless problem here is like. Malodorous folk on the train car, panhandling or begging... I don’t know what it is they are doing right in Texas, but i’m seeing far less of it in San Antonio. https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/homeless/san-antonios-homeless-solution-used-as-national-model/281-197477103 The population figures (esp in an unsheltered-homeless-to-population ratio) are also in The Alamo City’s favour, regardless of the Bay Area’s reputation may be for being the caring sort compared to Texans.

Outlaw Pete

LA, long summers and short winters.

Atoms for Peace

Down and out in Paris and London.