Contactless card machines introduced at churches decline in cash donations

Effects · 15-02-2019 08:57PM

riffmongous wrote: »

If it's a funeral I think you should give something, Sacriston, servers, cleaners are giving up their time for you

Are they not giving up their time for God?
The priest gets an extra cash in hand pay day for a funeral, why can't he share it out with the lower staff?

rgodard80a · 16-02-2019 06:20PM

ted1 wrote: »

Do your totally ignorant yo all the charity work the church does ?

Are you totally ignorant to the church raping children for decades, knowing about it and covering it up ? Moving priests to different locations rather than admitting it ?

Running a few soup kitchens really doesn't give them the moral high ground.
And since selling the moral high ground is their fundamental business model, it should've destroyed them.

freshpopcorn · 16-02-2019 06:27PM

They've being talks about this for a good while.
I our parish they give out envelopes and you put money into them weekly and you claim some of it back on tax.(I think)
Most of the regulars I'd see at mass would be mainly cash people. It might take a while to catch on. Especially with the people who be in charge of the collections. They may be not be very technical.
Our parish does publish accounts. There out goings include heating(a lot from what I remember), running costs, flowers and a good chunk to local schools.

punisher5112 · 16-02-2019 06:30PM

mariaalice wrote: »

What are beggers going to do when coins are phased out, that's what I want to know.

They will just get themselves a contactless machine and ask for their bus fare home.

I find it hilarious as I see the same faces daily stuck for a euro or two for their bus fare.

Must be an expensive bus journey.

Outlaw Pete · 16-02-2019 06:38PM

Was in Lapello's last night and they now let you pay for a lapdance by just swiping your card between a dancer's butt cheeks.

The girl whispered in my ear half way though the lapdance that I could touch if I wanted to but I had to point out that no, actually I couldn't, as Skrill cards don't have that function yet.

Homer · 16-02-2019 06:42PM

They should have tried out contactless with children first :cool:

Your Face · 16-02-2019 06:42PM

I thought they'd have a load of money from not compensating all the sexual abuse victims.

Ubbquittious · 16-02-2019 06:55PM

sk8board wrote: »

I think its a good idea - definitely progressive anyway.

I try to live as much in a cashless world as I can (yes I actively avoid places without card machines).

anyway, last sunday I happened to be at an anniversary mass in Kilkenny for a relative and realised I hadn't a cent for the (now 2) collections - and I wondered to my GF afterwards wouldn't it be handy if there was a machine pre-loaded with €2 or whatever at the door to tap on the way in

I mentioned it to someone I know in the fund-raising arm of a very well known charity, in reference to street collections and they are looking at it too. Tap as you pass. I imagine there's regulatory and trust issues to overcome first.

Do you like the idea of the government and the megacorps keeping a nice watchful eye over you?

railer201 · 16-02-2019 07:00PM

'Our Father which art in heaven, I'm a bit short of cash could you please credit my card with €1,000' - sticks card in machine.

mikemac2 · 16-02-2019 07:04PM

rgodard80a wrote: »

Running a few soup kitchens really doesn't give them the moral high ground.

Soup? That'd be the Protestants

Sunrise_Sunset · 16-02-2019 07:10PM

Moving with the times.
I remember a volunteer from the church doing house calls each week to collect the church envelope. They still managed to get the collection from non practising Catholics.

punisher5112 · 16-02-2019 07:14PM

lililanny wrote: »

Moving with the times.
I remember a volunteer from the church doing house calls each week to collect the church envelope. They still managed to get the collection from non practising Catholics.

Was it pat mustard..... He probably put his big tool in their box.

bobbyss · 16-02-2019 07:22PM

One of the causes of the birth of Protestantism was the money making capacity of the Catholic church. Why doesn't the church just concentrate on religion and forget this money making racket.

Church on Tuesday · 16-02-2019 09:39PM

centralchill wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/contactless-card-machines-introduced-at-churches-to-counteract-decline-in-cash-donations-37819821.html

Came across this online today? Do people agree with this?

I can't say I do, Isn't the Catholic church rich as ****?

Yup, the Catholic church has any amount of treasure stored away in the Vatican.

Flog it all on eBay sure, no cash problems then.

lawred2 · 16-02-2019 09:41PM

The problem isn't that John and Mary are at mass with only their revolut card.. it's that John and Mary are at fu(king home

punisher5112 · 16-02-2019 09:47PM

lawred2 wrote: »

The problem isn't that John and Mary are at mass with only their revolut card.. it's that John and Mary are at fu(king home

Cash all the way for them.., they're on the gravy train.

The more I hear and see from the church the more it puts me off it.

s4uv3 · 16-02-2019 09:52PM

This is in my local CoI church. Spotted it in the foyer when I was in before Christmas for a kids carol service thing.

freshpopcorn · 16-02-2019 10:55PM

My mother came home from mass with this tonight. These are the accounts they published for anybody interested.
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Your Face · 16-02-2019 11:12PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

My mother came home from mass with this tonight. These are the accounts they published for anybody interested.

Convenient numbers

Ally Dick · 16-02-2019 11:20PM

First time I have heard of priests going "contactless"

punisher5112 · 16-02-2019 11:25PM

Ally Dick wrote: »

First time I have heard of priests going "contactless"

Love your user name fits quite nicely...,..

orourkeda1977 · 17-02-2019 01:01AM

mariaalice wrote: »

What are beggers going to do when coins are phased out, that's what I want to know.

They'll be told to f*ck off and get a job

Irish Guitarist · 17-02-2019 01:13AM

I've thought of a great money spinner for the church. If you donate a large sum of money they produce a Bible with your name replacing one of the main characters. €100 to have Pontius Pilates name replaced with yours. €1,000 for Moses or Noah. €100,000 for Jesus and €1,000,000 to have your name substituted for Gods.

punisher5112 · 17-02-2019 01:17AM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I've thought of a great money spinner for the church. If you donate a large sum of money they produce a Bible with your name replacing one of the main characters. €100 to have Pontius Pilates name replaced with yours. €1,000 for Moses or Noah. €100,000 for Jesus and €1,000,000 to have your name substituted for Gods.

I can do that anytime I wants though

mikemac2 · 17-02-2019 01:26AM

Only for that insurance claim of 85k that parish would be bust ^^^

Wages seem low to me considering there are multiple people to pay

freshpopcorn · 17-02-2019 01:40AM

mikemac2 wrote: »

Only for that insurance claim of 85k that parish would be bust ^^^

Wages seem low to me considering there are multiple people to pay

The insurance claimed payed for the oil to be fixed tough.
They claimed for €84,895.65 and that's what they paid that to have the work done.(If I'm reading it correctly).
They are three priests in the parish one sacristan who'd be working every day and two others who'd only be on at weekends in rural areas. There's also a lady who does up a news letter in a office for a few hours.

mikemac2 · 17-02-2019 01:48AM

Ah you’re right, the insurance claim nets off

17-02-2019 04:56AM

Your Face wrote: »

Convenient numbers

Convenient because they balanced the account?

They withdrew €45,000 from a deposit account, presumably for the purpose of balancing the account. That account is income and expenditure only, it isn't supposed to cover all of the local assets, which presumably are in surplus.

Thespoofer · 17-02-2019 05:38AM

We had friends from Switzerland stay with us recently.
They told us there is a church tax in Switzerland where they are taxed at source on a percentage of their income for the upkeep of their chosen religion.

Wouldn't be my cup of tea to be honest.

Contactless card machines introduced at churches decline in cash donations

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