Have you ever experienced true corruption?

Del2005 wrote: »

Family members of the organisers of the local GAA/football club win the club lotto too often for luck.


People asking tradespeople for the "cash" price for a job.

Half the tradesmen won't do the job for anything but cash

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

The overseas trips are a total joke. Lads out there getting scuttered on bottles of Al Maza and working on their tan all day.

That hurler fella Colin Fenelly exposed it all. Said he was bored silly both at home and over there.

The Irish Army, ya, real professional outfit 🙄
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/soldier-under-investigation-after-rifle-discharged-in-prisoner-escort-convoy-37821095.html

And I can confirm that the aforementioned booze scam is real. My cousin Ghazif has a boozer over there and has been getting supplied by Irish Army lads for years.

Corruption is Dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power.

Ireland’s financial regulator publicly asked financial institutions to engage in share price manipulation. That’s an illegal act. Financial institutions loaned money to each other to cook their books and nobody was held accountantable for this illegal practice. Bailing out banks and financial institutions is a corruption of the normal laws of business that everybody else has to abide by but since it became the norm people forgot its a corrupt concept. Iceland chose a more honest method in dealing with their banks. You can rationalize and argue reasons why nationizing banks had to be done but it was a corruption of the system.

Corruption is part and parcel of most countries and a lot of it is right in front of our faces. People lower the bar “we aren’t Nigeria” or quote some survey or something that shows how great we are but normalized corruption is hard to quantify. That is corruption that happens but is actually accepted as just part and parcel of the system.

My house was built on a flood plain that has had flooding issues. The OPW strongly advised agaisnt zoning this land for building and yet politicians zoned it for building. Is that honest conduct, to dismiss professional , informed advice for some other reasons? People will continually lower the bar on what constitutes corruption either through ignorance or a desire to not really reflect on the reality of this country. I think ignorance is preferable and when I choose not to think about it I do feel better.

I’ve had a very close family member robbed by a business partner. The banks facilitated the laundering of money. The fraud squad didn’t have the resources to catch the guy , who is regularly seen boasting about his exploits. The banks clearly facilitated the laundering , it was never in question but since the case had to go through the high court, the banks took it as far as they could Because they hoped the person taking the case would go bankrupt and run out of money! Even though the banks eventually owned up to their role , this person was financially ruined and never recovered. They died 4 days after receiving a letter to reposess their house after years of stress and pressure from banks. Had the banks effectively not laundered money this person would of had a completely different life and may actually be alive today.

I know a businessman who works in mental health rehabilitation field. He’s told me of examples where a person within the HSE was sending sick people on the public system to the UK for certain services at double the cost to the state, simply because they didn’t agree with the Irish pricing! ( basically a “f*ck you decision!). They told me about a proposal they told Mary Harney ( I was at an event where harney opened up one of their business centers) about which would save the public coffers 25 million , free up 100 hospital beds and would offer better rehabilitation for long term patients. But it didn’t happen because the hospital didn’t want to lose any control of it’s patients and red tape prevented them from taking it forward. He told me even more distressing stories of the upper management of the HSE that would make your skin crawl.

I’m sure if I thought about it a bit more I could think of more examples. I havent even looked at public service and politics but since nobody is responsible for anything in those fields I don’t see the point . I’d say most people see instances of corruption more frequent then they realize but they aren’t consciously paying attention.