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The swirling toilet stage 2 ambulance drivers

  • 06-02-2019 11:23PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    Ambulance drivers have put their name on the list to catch the gravy train on the fecal merry go round.

    It’s like a swirling toilet. Who will be next?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,885 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Ambulance drivers have put their name on the list to catch the gravy train on the fecal merry go round.

    It’s like a swirling toilet. Who will be next?

    Toilet cleaners, I would imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Ambulance drivers have put their name on the list to catch the gravy train on the fecal merry go round.

    It’s like a swirling toilet. Who will be next?

    You , by the looks of the ****e you post.


  • Site Banned Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Dakotabigone


    Leo or Simon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    Leo or Simon.

    If Leo or Simon tell them all to F off I wouldn’t begrudge either of them the price of a few pints.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Hold on. The GP’s were out today.

    Besides. Everything that’s happening now on the health service is a direct result of FG’s ill advised austerity measures a decade ago.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Dakotabigone


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Hold on. The GP’s were out today.

    Besides. Everything that’s happening now on the health service is a direct result of FG’s ill advised austerity measures a decade ago.

    Fcuk Charlie Haughey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Ambulance drivers have put their name on the list to catch the gravy train on the fecal merry go round.

    It’s like a swirling toilet. Who will be next?

    And what do you do yourself?

    I will not begrudge nurses or emergency staff a good wage, they do some of the most important jobs going.

    TDs and other such politicians don't deserve half what they get in salary, expenses and pensions. Their remuneration is ridiculous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    Birneybau wrote: »
    And what do you do yourself?

    I flush my taxes down the swirling toilet.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,673 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Hold on. The GP’s were out today.

    Besides. Everything that’s happening now on the health service is a direct result of FG’s ill advised austerity measures a decade ago.

    I would say it's actually a direct result of now FF leader Michael Martin's creation of the HSE.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    Birneybau wrote: »
    And what do you do yourself?

    I will not begrudge nurses or emergency staff a good wage, they do some of the most important jobs going.

    I’d say without the binman we would be up to our necks in filth but nobody calls that an important job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭Miike


    The "ambulance drivers" (christ alive) are simply looking for the right to choose which union represent them but I don't expect people like you to go further than a headline to find out the substance of anything though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    I flush my taxes down the swirling toilet.

    Well, some of mine goes towards people who would try to keep me alive if something sh!te was to happen to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    I would say it's actually a direct result of now FF leader Michael Martin's creation of the HSE.

    Huge Swirling Effluent


  • Site Banned Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Dakotabigone


    I’d say without the binman we would be up to our necks in filth but nobody calls that an important job.

    Queue the rubbish jokes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,162 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Hold on. The GP’s were out today.

    Besides. Everything that’s happening now on the health service is a direct result of FG’s ill advised austerity measures a decade ago.

    And what where we supposed to do when we were broke and paying sky high interest on loans? What other department should have had its budget slashed to fund the money pit of the HSE?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Fcuk Charlie Haughey.

    FÜCK whom ever you want but the fact of the matter is… health services are fücked from the bottom to the top. Thanks in no small part to the FG government of the past 10 years. Not to say that FF did a sterling job when they were in power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭1874


    I would say it's actually a direct result of now FF leader Michael Martin's creation of the HSE.


    There will always have to be some administration of the health services, its just done inefficiently and ineffectively, Im sure (and I know from personal experience) a lot of the people in the health service (HSE) but mainly the frontline staff are consumate professionals. The problem is the organisation and management/administration, top heavy and needs to be slashed. It wont matter what its called so just a name change is fcuk all good, when whats needed is a culture change,
    while Im on it, while I believe a lot of frontline and back of house (or whatever other admin staff are called) are essential and do their job, the pisstakers at all levels should be rooted out, ie off sick for 6months for nonsense, not genuine cases and also people who cant or wont get up to date with current day/modern requirements ie know how to use tools like a PC and email and dont refuse to use learn it as part of their job (given training should be provided), performance reviews, especially for people sitting around in offices, need money funded into more nursing and and ancillary medical and support staff that twats dossing about for a career of sitting on their holes.


    Miike wrote: »
    The "ambulance drivers" (christ alive) are simply looking for the right to choose which union represent them but I don't expect people like you to go further than a headline to find out the substance of anything though.


    Well I support that, I was appalled in this day and age that psychiatric nursing staff seem not to be allowed to determine who their own representatives body are, shows some unions to be a scam themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Queue the rubbish jokes.

    Cue the pedants


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,061 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Miike wrote: »
    The "ambulance drivers" (christ alive) are simply looking for the right to choose which union represent them but I don't expect people like you to go further than a headline to find out the substance of anything though.

    +1 FFS, they went on strike awhile ago as well, they get paid pretty **** money, I got more as a barman before college than the typical paramedic. Same with nurses. People banging on about average wages being X, rather than the fact that the median wage (ie what the typical one works on) which is much lower.

    Emergency frontline staff should be well paid because, like it or not, they are not only at the coalface of our day to day lives or our family lives, they take risks beyond what most of us would ever find acceptable.

    The government had a get out of jail free card with both of these. Call in the other union heads and spell it out, these are front line staff, they are getting what they want (and the paramedics really want **** all other than recognition), with a promise there would be no other strike by any other union for a predetermined time given the PSA was held too. Simple, cheap but not easy enough for any politician to suggest. FF happy for it to go on as it will damage FG, FG foolishly thinking that the public think the same about this as the LUAS and the minority parties happy to take cheap pot shots without offering real alternatives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,501 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Ambulance drivers have put their name on the list to catch the gravy train on the fecal merry go round.

    It’s like a swirling toilet. Who will be next?

    1) the ambulance service has seen massive change over the last 15 to 20 years in terms of what Ambulance staff can do treatment wise. So staff are FAR from just "drivers".

    2) the ambulance staff issue is who they want to be represented by in terms of a union - they dont want to be represented by SIPTU.

    3) wanting to be represented by a different union - initially - seemed a bit of a flimsy reason for a strike. But then I heard SIPTUs Paul Bell on the radio and honestly he was a shambles. Seemed more like a guy more interested in a cosy relationship with HSE and Govt then been a proper representative for his members.

    4) if your union isn't going to listen to you and fight your corner then what's the point of been in a union. I certainly think that 500 staff in an 1800 staff service should be able to decide who represents them.

    5) this strike could be the easiest strike ever to resolve - unbelievable really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    CramCycle wrote: »
    +1 FFS, they went on strike awhile ago as well, they get paid pretty **** money, I got more as a barman before college than the typical paramedic. Same with nurses. People banging on about average wages being X, rather than the fact that the median wage (ie what the typical one works on) which is much lower.

    Emergency frontline staff should be well paid because, like it or not, they are not only at the coalface of our day to day lives or our family lives, they take risks beyond what most of us would ever find acceptable.

    The government had a get out of jail free card with both of these. Call in the other union heads and spell it out, these are front line staff, they are getting what they want (and the paramedics really want **** all other than recognition), with a promise there would be no other strike by any other union for a predetermined time given the PSA was held too. Simple, cheap but not easy enough for any politician to suggest. FF happy for it to go on as it will damage FG, FG foolishly thinking that the public think the same about this as the LUAS and the minority parties happy to take cheap pot shots without offering real alternatives.

    They're paid way more than their UK comrades.

    Hopefully this Government will have the balls to finally put some manners on the public servants. Teachers must be the best paid in the world at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭RMAOK


    I thought this thread was going to be about armitage shanks :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    kneemos wrote: »
    They're paid way more than their UK comrades.

    Hopefully this Government will have the balls to finally put some manners on the public servants. Teachers must be the best paid in the world at this stage.

    Fantastic news. People should be paid high wages.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    Fantastic news. People should be paid high wages.

    People who get low wages should pay taxes so people can get huge wages


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    People who get low wages should pay taxes so people can get huge wages

    50 or 60k isn't a huge wage.
    People on low wages pay next to no taxes.

    What country do you live in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭beejee


    Medical staff, with a broad brush, are getting paid at, or above, average wage.

    They don't want more money for the sake of it, they need more money to keep up with the runaway inflation in the country. They luckily have a gigantic union behind them whereas most people don't.

    This isn't going to work out. Paying more money is akin to chugging more and more coal into a train furnace while simultaneously hoping it slows down because youre running out of coal. This is nonsense. Its barking mad.

    To be clear, it isn't wages that's the problem, its the costs of this country. But all attention shall be focused on wages until the train comes hurtling off the tracks. Again.

    Its drawing close.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Take that Thatcher




    Perhaps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    beejee wrote: »
    Medical staff, with a broad brush, are getting paid at, or above, average wage.

    They don't want more money for the sake of it, they need more money to keep up with the runaway inflation in the country. They luckily have a gigantic union behind them whereas most people don't.

    This isn't going to work out. Paying more money is akin to chugging more and more coal into a train furnace while simultaneously hoping it slows down because youre running out of coal. This is nonsense. Its barking mad.

    To be clear, it isn't wages that's the problem, its the costs of this country. But all attention shall be focused on wages until the train comes hurtling off the tracks. Again.

    Its drawing close.


    The housing boom hasn't even begun yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Still waters


    Birneybau wrote: »
    And what do you do yourself?

    I will not begrudge nurses or emergency staff a good wage, they do some of the most important jobs going.

    TDs and other such politicians don't deserve half what they get in salary, expenses and pensions. Their remuneration is ridiculous.

    I agree with the part about the politicians but have you anything to back up that nurses and emergency staff are underpaid for what they do, there's a perception that just because they're hospital or emergency staff that they should get what they want when they want it, is there a group think that I'm unaware of that states anyone in this line of work are automatic heroes worthy of hero status in society.

    Dont get me wrong I realise it's hard work and demanding but I keep hearing just because they're front line emergency staff they have to be in the right and have every right to do what they want to get what they want, it pains me to say it but I'm with varadker and Harris on this


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    50 or 60k isn't a huge wage.
    People on low wages pay next to no taxes.

    What country do you live in?

    I pay a hundred quid a week in taxes and earn less than the average nurse.


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