The swirling toilet stage 2 ambulance drivers

Flyingsnowball

Ambulance drivers have put their name on the list to catch the gravy train on the fecal merry go round.

It’s like a swirling toilet. Who will be next?

Allinall

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Ambulance drivers have put their name on the list to catch the gravy train on the fecal merry go round.

It’s like a swirling toilet. Who will be next?

Toilet cleaners, I would imagine.

corner of hells

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Ambulance drivers have put their name on the list to catch the gravy train on the fecal merry go round.

It’s like a swirling toilet. Who will be next?

You , by the looks of the ****e you post.

Dakotabigone

Leo or Simon.

Flyingsnowball

Dakotabigone wrote: »

Leo or Simon.

If Leo or Simon tell them all to F off I wouldn’t begrudge either of them the price of a few pints.

mad muffin

Hold on. The GP’s were out today.

Besides. Everything that’s happening now on the health service is a direct result of FG’s ill advised austerity measures a decade ago.

Dakotabigone

mad muffin wrote: »

Hold on. The GP’s were out today.

Besides. Everything that’s happening now on the health service is a direct result of FG’s ill advised austerity measures a decade ago.

Fcuk Charlie Haughey.

Birneybau

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Ambulance drivers have put their name on the list to catch the gravy train on the fecal merry go round.

It’s like a swirling toilet. Who will be next?

And what do you do yourself?

I will not begrudge nurses or emergency staff a good wage, they do some of the most important jobs going.

TDs and other such politicians don't deserve half what they get in salary, expenses and pensions. Their remuneration is ridiculous.

Flyingsnowball

Birneybau wrote: »

And what do you do yourself?

I flush my taxes down the swirling toilet.

artanevilla

mad muffin wrote: »

Hold on. The GP’s were out today.

Besides. Everything that’s happening now on the health service is a direct result of FG’s ill advised austerity measures a decade ago.

I would say it's actually a direct result of now FF leader Michael Martin's creation of the HSE.

Flyingsnowball

Birneybau wrote: »

And what do you do yourself?

I will not begrudge nurses or emergency staff a good wage, they do some of the most important jobs going.

I’d say without the binman we would be up to our necks in filth but nobody calls that an important job.

Miike

The "ambulance drivers" (christ alive) are simply looking for the right to choose which union represent them but I don't expect people like you to go further than a headline to find out the substance of anything though.

Birneybau

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

I flush my taxes down the swirling toilet.

Well, some of mine goes towards people who would try to keep me alive if something sh!te was to happen to me.

Flyingsnowball

artanevilla wrote: »

I would say it's actually a direct result of now FF leader Michael Martin's creation of the HSE.

Huge Swirling Effluent

Dakotabigone

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

I’d say without the binman we would be up to our necks in filth but nobody calls that an important job.

Queue the rubbish jokes.

Del2005

mad muffin wrote: »

Hold on. The GP’s were out today.

Besides. Everything that’s happening now on the health service is a direct result of FG’s ill advised austerity measures a decade ago.

And what where we supposed to do when we were broke and paying sky high interest on loans? What other department should have had its budget slashed to fund the money pit of the HSE?

mad muffin

Dakotabigone wrote: »

Fcuk Charlie Haughey.

FÜCK whom ever you want but the fact of the matter is… health services are fücked from the bottom to the top. Thanks in no small part to the FG government of the past 10 years. Not to say that FF did a sterling job when they were in power.

1874

artanevilla wrote: »

I would say it's actually a direct result of now FF leader Michael Martin's creation of the HSE.

There will always have to be some administration of the health services, its just done inefficiently and ineffectively, Im sure (and I know from personal experience) a lot of the people in the health service (HSE) but mainly the frontline staff are consumate professionals. The problem is the organisation and management/administration, top heavy and needs to be slashed. It wont matter what its called so just a name change is fcuk all good, when whats needed is a culture change,
while Im on it, while I believe a lot of frontline and back of house (or whatever other admin staff are called) are essential and do their job, the pisstakers at all levels should be rooted out, ie off sick for 6months for nonsense, not genuine cases and also people who cant or wont get up to date with current day/modern requirements ie know how to use tools like a PC and email and dont refuse to use learn it as part of their job (given training should be provided), performance reviews, especially for people sitting around in offices, need money funded into more nursing and and ancillary medical and support staff that twats dossing about for a career of sitting on their holes.

Miike wrote: »

The "ambulance drivers" (christ alive) are simply looking for the right to choose which union represent them but I don't expect people like you to go further than a headline to find out the substance of anything though.

Well I support that, I was appalled in this day and age that psychiatric nursing staff seem not to be allowed to determine who their own representatives body are, shows some unions to be a scam themselves.

Birneybau

Dakotabigone wrote: »

Queue the rubbish jokes.

Cue the pedants

CramCycle

Miike wrote: »

The "ambulance drivers" (christ alive) are simply looking for the right to choose which union represent them but I don't expect people like you to go further than a headline to find out the substance of anything though.

+1 FFS, they went on strike awhile ago as well, they get paid pretty **** money, I got more as a barman before college than the typical paramedic. Same with nurses. People banging on about average wages being X, rather than the fact that the median wage (ie what the typical one works on) which is much lower.

Emergency frontline staff should be well paid because, like it or not, they are not only at the coalface of our day to day lives or our family lives, they take risks beyond what most of us would ever find acceptable.

The government had a get out of jail free card with both of these. Call in the other union heads and spell it out, these are front line staff, they are getting what they want (and the paramedics really want **** all other than recognition), with a promise there would be no other strike by any other union for a predetermined time given the PSA was held too. Simple, cheap but not easy enough for any politician to suggest. FF happy for it to go on as it will damage FG, FG foolishly thinking that the public think the same about this as the LUAS and the minority parties happy to take cheap pot shots without offering real alternatives.

Old diesel

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Ambulance drivers have put their name on the list to catch the gravy train on the fecal merry go round.

It’s like a swirling toilet. Who will be next?

1) the ambulance service has seen massive change over the last 15 to 20 years in terms of what Ambulance staff can do treatment wise. So staff are FAR from just "drivers".

2) the ambulance staff issue is who they want to be represented by in terms of a union - they dont want to be represented by SIPTU.

3) wanting to be represented by a different union - initially - seemed a bit of a flimsy reason for a strike. But then I heard SIPTUs Paul Bell on the radio and honestly he was a shambles. Seemed more like a guy more interested in a cosy relationship with HSE and Govt then been a proper representative for his members.

4) if your union isn't going to listen to you and fight your corner then what's the point of been in a union. I certainly think that 500 staff in an 1800 staff service should be able to decide who represents them.

5) this strike could be the easiest strike ever to resolve - unbelievable really.

kneemos

CramCycle wrote: »

+1 FFS, they went on strike awhile ago as well, they get paid pretty **** money, I got more as a barman before college than the typical paramedic. Same with nurses. People banging on about average wages being X, rather than the fact that the median wage (ie what the typical one works on) which is much lower.

Emergency frontline staff should be well paid because, like it or not, they are not only at the coalface of our day to day lives or our family lives, they take risks beyond what most of us would ever find acceptable.

The government had a get out of jail free card with both of these. Call in the other union heads and spell it out, these are front line staff, they are getting what they want (and the paramedics really want **** all other than recognition), with a promise there would be no other strike by any other union for a predetermined time given the PSA was held too. Simple, cheap but not easy enough for any politician to suggest. FF happy for it to go on as it will damage FG, FG foolishly thinking that the public think the same about this as the LUAS and the minority parties happy to take cheap pot shots without offering real alternatives.

They're paid way more than their UK comrades.

Hopefully this Government will have the balls to finally put some manners on the public servants. Teachers must be the best paid in the world at this stage.

RMAOK

I thought this thread was going to be about armitage shanks

Twenty Grand

kneemos wrote: »

They're paid way more than their UK comrades.

Hopefully this Government will have the balls to finally put some manners on the public servants. Teachers must be the best paid in the world at this stage.

Fantastic news. People should be paid high wages.

Flyingsnowball

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Fantastic news. People should be paid high wages.

People who get low wages should pay taxes so people can get huge wages

Twenty Grand

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

People who get low wages should pay taxes so people can get huge wages

50 or 60k isn't a huge wage.
People on low wages pay next to no taxes.

What country do you live in?

beejee

Medical staff, with a broad brush, are getting paid at, or above, average wage.

They don't want more money for the sake of it, they need more money to keep up with the runaway inflation in the country. They luckily have a gigantic union behind them whereas most people don't.

This isn't going to work out. Paying more money is akin to chugging more and more coal into a train furnace while simultaneously hoping it slows down because youre running out of coal. This is nonsense. Its barking mad.

To be clear, it isn't wages that's the problem, its the costs of this country. But all attention shall be focused on wages until the train comes hurtling off the tracks. Again.

Its drawing close.

Your Face

Take that Thatcher




Perhaps

kneemos

beejee wrote: »

Medical staff, with a broad brush, are getting paid at, or above, average wage.

They don't want more money for the sake of it, they need more money to keep up with the runaway inflation in the country. They luckily have a gigantic union behind them whereas most people don't.

This isn't going to work out. Paying more money is akin to chugging more and more coal into a train furnace while simultaneously hoping it slows down because youre running out of coal. This is nonsense. Its barking mad.

To be clear, it isn't wages that's the problem, its the costs of this country. But all attention shall be focused on wages until the train comes hurtling off the tracks. Again.

Its drawing close.

The housing boom hasn't even begun yet.

Still waters

Birneybau wrote: »

And what do you do yourself?

I will not begrudge nurses or emergency staff a good wage, they do some of the most important jobs going.

TDs and other such politicians don't deserve half what they get in salary, expenses and pensions. Their remuneration is ridiculous.

I agree with the part about the politicians but have you anything to back up that nurses and emergency staff are underpaid for what they do, there's a perception that just because they're hospital or emergency staff that they should get what they want when they want it, is there a group think that I'm unaware of that states anyone in this line of work are automatic heroes worthy of hero status in society.

Dont get me wrong I realise it's hard work and demanding but I keep hearing just because they're front line emergency staff they have to be in the right and have every right to do what they want to get what they want, it pains me to say it but I'm with varadker and Harris on this

Flyingsnowball

Twenty Grand wrote: »

50 or 60k isn't a huge wage.
People on low wages pay next to no taxes.

What country do you live in?

I pay a hundred quid a week in taxes and earn less than the average nurse.

d15ude

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

I pay a hundred quid a week in taxes and earn less than the average nurse.

Next to no taxes so!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

I pay a hundred quid a week in taxes and earn less than the average nurse.

No offence, but that's a very small amount of tax. Both myself and my wife each pay multiples of that, and we're on pensions.

El_Bee

roll on the General Election, Sinn Fein will sort all this out

racso1975

El_Bee wrote: »

roll on the General Election, Sinn Fein will sort all this out

I'd love some of the drugs you are on!!!!

RMAOK

RMAOK wrote: »

I thought this thread was going to be about armitage shanks

I thought it was like the snowflake racing gears or whatever that was
random thread titles, go!

Flyingsnowball

Ingrid Freezing Tarp wrote: »

No offence, but that's a very small amount of tax. Both myself and my wife each pay multiples of that, and we're on pensions.

Yes you were a public servant. Of course you and your wife’s pension is way more than my private sector wage.
My taxes and my children’s taxes will pay your wages. I’m not sure if I should take offense.

Fecal merry go round indeed

Twenty Grand

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Yes you were a public servant. Of course you and your wife’s pension is way more than my private sector wage.
My taxes and my children’s taxes will pay your wages. I’m not sure if I should take offense.

Fecal merry go round indeed

You pay sweet FA in tax and you're here saying you're paying for peoples wages?

Don't make me laugh.

60k isn't a decent wage by any stretch, and if you're a nurse or ambulance driver, you'll never earn a decent wage.

Flyingsnowball

Twenty Grand wrote: »

You pay sweet FA in tax and you're here saying you're paying for peoples wages?

Don't make me laugh.

60k isn't a decent wage by any stretch, and if you're a nurse or ambulance driver, you'll never earn a decent wage.

Holy spinning effluent. I’m sorry if I don’t earn enough to match the taxes you pay after robbing the tax system. 60 k is a bad year aparantly. Straight from the mammies milk to the public teet.

Twenty Grand

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Holy spinning effluent. I’m sorry if I don’t earn enough to match the taxes you pay after robbing the tax system. 60 k is a bad year aparantly. Straight from the mammies milk to the public teet.

Im not a public servant
How does paying lots of tax rob the system?

Flyingsnowball

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Im not a public servant
How does paying lots of tax rob the system?

Absolute pony. Either public service or union rep or a spoofer about paying multiples of tax to me. You are some high roller that spends all day argueing public service rights on boards?

The whirlpool of spin.

Auguste Comte

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Fantastic news. People should be paid high wages.

People who get low wages should pay taxes so people can get huge wages

Multy billion euro companies should pay their taxes then maybe we could all have a few quid more.

Flyingsnowball

Auguste Comte wrote: »

Multy billion euro companies should pay their taxes then maybe we could all have a few quid more.

Yeah said mostly by the pay for nothing brigade or the grab everything brigade

Twenty Grand

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Absolute pony. Either public service or union rep or a spoofer about paying multiples of tax to me. You are some high roller that spends all day argueing public service rights on boards?

The whirlpool of spin.

Nah, just some lad who has a bit of free time to argue with gammons who get annoyed when people they perceive as lower class earn more than they do:D

Also, seeing as you're looking to go back to college, won't you be sucking from the public teet for a few years instead of working productively?

People in glass houses...

Flyingsnowball

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Nah, just some lad who has a bit of free time to argue with gammons who get annoyed when people they perceive as lower class earn more than they do:D

Also, seeing as you're looking to go back to college, won't you be sucking from the public teet for a few years instead of working productively?

People in glass houses...

You absolutely do not pay multiples of tax to me. I’d say you are on the dole or on the public service teet. If I go back to school I have to pay for it myself, attending school in the evening and working during the day.

Twenty Grand

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

You absolutely do not pay multiples of tax to me. I’d say you are on the dole or on the public service teet. If I go back to school I have to pay for it myself, attending school in the evening and working during the day.

Believe whatever you want to believe. Matters little to me.

I just like to see people situation improve. You seem happy to tear people down.

Full support for nurses, ambulance drivers and GPs here. I don't mind paying a bit extra to keep their services in the country and stop the brain drain

Flyingsnowball

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Believe whatever you want to believe. Matters little to me.

I just like to see people situation improve. You seem happy to tear people down.

Full support for nurses, ambulance drivers and GPs here. I don't mind paying a bit extra to keep their services in the country and stop the brain drain

What do you work at?

Twenty Grand

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

What do you work at?

None of your business.

mynamejeff

Justice system screwed
health system screwed
housing screwed
transport screwed
banking crooked
building crooked
politicians ripping us off hand over fist
Church full of creeps
weather crap
havent won the euro vision in years
crap football team
dubin winning all Irelands
minimum pricing alcohol
cant smoke anywhere

we really have fucjed this country up lads

AbdulAbhaile

It's a disgrace Joe, a holey disgrace and and all the fault of the ambulance drivers. Sure anyone could drive an ambulance Joe, arnt they only an oul transit, you don't even need a d licence. They should make some of them dole sponges to do it for their dole money Joe that I pay for wit me taxes Joe. A hundred pounds a week I give to them layabout ambulance men Joe. And I know about these things Joe because my sisters next-door neighbours hairdressers gynocoligists fishing buddy once talked to an ambulance driver and he owned a time share in an apartment in sunny Beach in Bulgaria Joe Bulgaria. I'm outraged Joe I am.

worded

They must get to see sone horrific stuff. A local one lost his mind and did away. One on the radio has depression, tough job

Are they drivers only or are they paramedics ?

I’ve great respect for medical ppl and a swirling toilet bowl isn’t a decent thing to say imho