Brexit Discussion Thread VI

hotmail.com · 29-01-2019 09:41PM

So Theresa May has effectively voted against her own deal in the Brady amendment.

29-01-2019 09:42PM

Enzokk wrote: »

This tweet has a list of Labour MPs who voted against the Cooper amendment. The problem with having a leader who constantly defied the whip is that he cannot reasonable expect his MPs to follow the Whip.

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1090345300215111681

If you give in an inch they will want a mile. There is nothing more to give other than clarifications which will not satisfy Brexiteers.

17 Tories voted for the Cooper amendment. Labour MPs from Leave constituencies then. Scared of losing their seats the next time out.....

Beechwoodspark · 29-01-2019 09:42PM

Commission statement incoming ...

Akrasia · 29-01-2019 09:42PM

If you heard a thunderclap just now, it was all of the EU facepalming at the same time

Irishmale0399 · 29-01-2019 09:43PM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Not according to our own government.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/0129/1026271-economy-brexit-finance/

"It is important to recognise that such estimates may not capture the full impact, and the figures may be conservative. Nevertheless, quantifying the impact is important to help Government understand the possible macroeconomic implications and to design the appropriate policy response."

That more or less says it all....may be!!!

The simple fact at this minute in time is that not all firms have informed people of their plans. I know of 4 very big players from the German market who are looking at Ireland to take over their English based company HQs. That will bring jobs to Ireland, maybe not at the beginning but long term. Everyone will suffer at the first moment as change will be needed and economies will need to adapt.

lawred2 · 29-01-2019 09:44PM

Wonder is she still going to actually try boarding the plane to head over to Brussels regardless of what the commission have to say

eagle eye · 29-01-2019 09:44PM

Hurrache wrote:

It's not happening, no point in bringing up leaving.

You are in for a big shock in the wake of innocent people getting killed. Minds will change very quickly if that happens.

sink · 29-01-2019 09:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

17 Tories voted for the Cooper amendment. Labour MPs from Leave constituencies then. Scared of losing their seats the next time out.....

Apart from Kate Hoey, a labour member from a remain constituency, who is very likely to be deselected by her local committee.

For Forks Sake · 29-01-2019 09:45PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Commission statement incoming ...

I know what my statement would say, but that's probably why I'm not a diplomat..

10000maniacs · 29-01-2019 09:45PM

Just shows how the UK parliament values peace in Northern Ireland. not very much it seems.
So, now we will in the next 59 days see how much Varadkar and the EU value peace in NI and the Good Friday Agreement.

franglan · 29-01-2019 09:45PM

lawred2 wrote: »

Wonder is she still going to actually try boarding the plane to head over to Brussels regardless of what the commission have to say

Absolutley yes.

Sparko · 29-01-2019 09:46PM

lawred2 wrote: »

Wonder is she still going to actually try boarding the plane to head over to Brussels regardless of what the commission have to say

They might as well just leave her sitting in the lobby listening to ABBA. Absolute waste of time, par for the course.

dublinman1990 · 29-01-2019 09:46PM

Brady's amendment has passed. Although; it could amount to absolutely nothing at all from within EU circles.

It could not be easy???????

It could be virtually impossible for changes to the backstop to even happen Theresa.

Your parliament may be asking for a fool's errand here with this amendment to 'change' the backstop.

What I would mean in this case you could be asking for a late christmas with no late presents coming to your country's door.

Talk about you being shortchanged.

Hurrache · 29-01-2019 09:47PM

eagle eye wrote: »

You are in for a big shock in the wake of innocent people getting killed. Minds will change very quickly if that happens.

It's not happening.

Ronan|Raven · 29-01-2019 09:47PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

So Theresa May has effectively voted against her own deal in the Brady amendment.

That's pretty much it. The sheer absurdity of the whole thing.

tuxy · 29-01-2019 09:47PM

Sammy Wilson picking his nose while Ian Blackford accuses the house of having no respect for the GFA.

Water John · 29-01-2019 09:48PM

Ian Blackburn says the Govn't have torn up the Good Friday Agreement.

Itssoeasy · 29-01-2019 09:48PM

Alternative arrangements ? What an utterly vague term. If there had been better alternatives to the backstop you'd think they would have been worked out ? I actually give up.

Enzokk · 29-01-2019 09:49PM

tuxy wrote: »

Sammy Wilson picking his nose while Ian Blackford accuses the house of having no respect for the GFA.

The contempt and disrespect being shown to the SNP from the Tories is incredible. I cannot understand how Scotland still want to be part of a country that treats their voice with such disdain.

Itssoeasy · 29-01-2019 09:49PM

tuxy wrote: »

Sammy Wilson picking his nose while Ian Blackford accuses the house of having no respect for the GFA.

Kind of sums up the DUPs attitude to the GFA in fairness.

prawnsambo · 29-01-2019 09:49PM

eagle eye wrote: »

You are in for a big shock in the wake of innocent people getting killed. Minds will change very quickly if that happens.

Your logic is astounding. We leave the EU and join the country who precipitate a crisis on our island and you think that's the appropriate response? Far more likely that there will be a UI vote.

Hurrache · 29-01-2019 09:50PM

Dodds claiming that he's speaking for both sides of the community in his defence of the GFA. Deeper down the rabbit hole we go.

Enzokk · 29-01-2019 09:51PM

In no surprise at all Donald Tusk has already shot down the plan of May.

https://twitter.com/DanielBoffey/status/1090350488791539712

So what now? Will she be humiliated again?

lawred2 · 29-01-2019 09:51PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Alternative arrangements ? What an utterly vague term. If there had been better alternatives to the backstop you'd think they would have been worked out ? I actually give up.

It's clear now that these lads want a hard Brexit and are playing any old cards to get it. They want the clock ticking down with May doddering and dithering her way to failure.

And NI is just a nothing to them.

If the likes of Wilson weren't so completed clouded by their hatred of Ireland they'd see it.

As it is feeling 'important' even if only as useful fools in Westminster is all it takes for them to get their warm and fuzzies.

Well that and fetching para outfits of course.

eagle eye · 29-01-2019 09:51PM

Hurrache wrote:

It's not happening.

You are wrong if there is a hard border.

dublinman1990 · 29-01-2019 09:52PM

According to the BBC; Donald Tusk is not budging on the backstop within the WA at all.

Very clear message there to TM & her government.

Beechwoodspark · 29-01-2019 09:52PM

Tusk says agreement is not open for renegotiation and the backstop is integral to it.

May can act the hard chaw all she likes in London but she will be sent packing in Brussels if we are to take the EU at face value.

hotmail.com · 29-01-2019 09:53PM

The Brady amendment changes nothing whatsoever. May has received a mandate to do ... nothing.

Hurrache · 29-01-2019 09:54PM

The face on that conservative MP dropping when that Tusk statement read to him.

lawred2 · 29-01-2019 09:54PM

Hurrache wrote: »

The face on that conservative MP dropping when that Tulsk statement read to him.

Was he expecting something else?

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