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Brexit land

  • 28-12-2018 07:02PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭


    Living over here the past year, this is a cheap cheap country. Work announced the other day that they will pay for the visa's of all EU staff and their spouses+kids. Didn't think it would happen(visas) and then yesterday the home office released this

    https://twitter.com/ukhomeoffice/status/1078206349148708865

    Us Irish don't need to apply but given the mess they are already making of people applying for British residence whom have lived here for years(Canadians etc) and Windrush mess this will be the end of the UK.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Might discover where they're minimum wage workers come from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,767 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Another Brexiteer promise that EU citizens would be unaffected is blown up. Wonder what the EU will do about UK citizens in the EU? Put them through the ringer I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    I'm totally torn between:

    - Enjoying seeing the imperial / exceptionalist types get their comeuppance

    - Disappointment at the departure of fellow Europeans that have more in common with us than most of the other countries

    - Anger at how a hard brexit might fcuk us up here as collareral damage.

    Torn!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,777 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Sky King wrote: »
    I'm totally torn between:

    - Enjoying seeing the imperial / exceptionalist types get their comeuppance

    - Disappointment at the departure of fellow Europeans that have more in common with us than most of the other countries

    - Anger at how a hard brexit might fcuk us up here as collareral damage.

    Torn!


    There is something truly grotesquely fascinating about the whole thing. Part of me wants to see the whole thing come crashing down, just to see it, the more sensible part of me does not.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Sky King wrote: »
    I'm totally torn between:

    - Enjoying seeing the imperial / exceptionalist types get their comeuppance

    - Disappointment at the departure of fellow Europeans that have more in common with us than most of the other countries

    - Anger at how a hard brexit might fcuk us up here as collareral damage.

    Torn!

    There's a good foot on their throat at the moment. Can't pass up stepping down hard now, the whole world deserves a go at that one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,428 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    Was wondering why this was gone quiet and then remembered all the politicians are on holidays for a couple of weeks. Sure it'll be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭Yakuza


    Patww79 wrote: »
    There's a good foot on their throat at the moment. Can't pass up stepping down hard now, the whole world deserves a go at that one.

    The thing is, by some act of unimaginable contortion, they've managed to put their own foot on their throat. Now that takes some doing...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Sky King wrote: »
    I'm totally torn between:

    - Enjoying seeing the imperial / exceptionalist types get their comeuppance

    - Disappointment at the departure of fellow Europeans that have more in common with us than most of the other countries

    - Anger at how a hard brexit might fcuk us up here as collareral damage.

    Torn!

    Collars should be grand.

    Brexit just shows how nationalism and misplaced patriotism are likely to lead to ruination.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,589 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Considering how they have screwed up the initial registrations I wouldn't hold out much hope this will run smoothly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    I'm almost certain that the whole thing will be cancelled, the Brits surely aren't this stupid are they?


    Some clusterfcuk from beginning to end and no mistake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 eggman100


    No it won't be cancelled in a million years. To do that would be against the democratic will of the people and the ramifications would go on for a few generations at least, though I expect the EU to collapse well before then


  • Site Banned Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Dakotabigone


    All Leo’s fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Lads, there's a few of us drilling up in the mountains to take back De Nort when it all inevitably goes pear shaped.

    PM for details, we'll all be heroes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    All Leo’s fault.

    Leo and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Brexit :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    eggman100 wrote: »
    No it won't be cancelled in a million years. To do that would be against the democratic will of the people and the ramifications would go on for a few generations at least, though I expect the EU to collapse well before then

    Even if they have another referendum and people vote against it?

    Brexit is just a ****show of an omnishambles at the moment. The Tories are all over the place. And as for Labour, Corbyn is just happy to watch them burn so he can win an election. He has no actual policies except parroting the same crap about how he could negotiate a deal and there should be an election.

    Even if there was an election tomorrow, what would the Tory manifesto have to say about Brexit. they can't even agree on a policy for their own party. Neither can labour. The only parties that seem to have a coherent plan are the SNP and Lib Dem's and they want to stay in the EU.

    If they crash out without a deal it could knock off 7-8% of their GDP. Over a trillion pounds has fled the UK since the referendum. Loads of companies are relocating and every major business group is against a hard brexit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,020 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Grayson wrote: »
    Even if they have another referendum and people vote against it?

    Brexit is just a ****show of an omnishambles at the moment. The Tories are all over the place. And as for Labour, Corbyn is just happy to watch them burn so he can win an election. He has no actual policies except parroting the same crap about how he could negotiate a deal and there should be an election.

    Even if there was an election tomorrow, what would the Tory manifesto have to say about Brexit. they can't even agree on a policy for their own party. Neither can labour. The only parties that seem to have a coherent plan are the SNP and Lib Dem's and they want to stay in the EU.

    If they crash out without a deal it could knock off 7-8% of their GDP. Over a trillion pounds has fled the UK since the referendum. Loads of companies are relocating and every major business group is against a hard brexit.

    It's hard to see what outcome won't leave the UK in a very bad place. Even if Brexit was cancelled tomorrow, it would be followed by months and years of angry bickering and bitter recriminations. They're so entrenched and divided that every outcome is a bad outcome. The entire system is broken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    I suppose David Cameron had the ultimate pig fûck…


  • Posts: 5,853 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Grayson wrote: »
    The only parties that seem to have a coherent plan are the SNP and Lib Dem's and they want to stay in the EU

    Yet almost guaranteed a hard Brexit by voting against the withdrawal agreement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    eggman100 wrote: »
    No it won't be cancelled in a million years. To do that would be against the democratic will of the people and the ramifications would go on for a few generations at least, though I expect the EU to collapse well before then

    What are all these benefits of Brexit that you mentioned in the Politics thread before you were banned?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    If they do Brexit Scotland and even Wales will look for sovereignty.
    The only possible way to put an end to it is if they leave and want back in a few years after the economy tumbles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    eggman100 wrote: »
    No it won't be cancelled in a million years. To do that would be against the democratic will of the people and the ramifications would go on for a few generations at least, though I expect the EU to collapse well before then


    It may well be cancelled in the event of a second vote, which at this stage seems the sane option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Odhinn wrote: »
    It may well be cancelled in the event of a second vote, which at this stage seems the sane option.

    It may be cancelled at the last moment by the UK without a vote to avoid a hard brexit. It would be political suicide if a conservative does it but it may happen just to avoid crashing out.

    The biggest problem is that there's a majority for a brexit that isn't hard, it's just that no-one can decide what non hard brexit it should be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,295 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Won’t happen or else Softest of soft brexits


  • Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    , the Brits surely aren't this stupid are they?


    Simple answer to what may be a rhetorical question is yes! I've been living among them for some years now and I can 100% confirm one thing about the English (maybe not the British) - they are a nation absolutely addicted to misery!

    Give them one good thing and they'll do everything they can between them to fcuk it up. I think it was Elton John who said that even on Christmas Day all they want to do is "turn on Eastenders to watch some kunt boil an egg and then kill himself". Don't remember the exact quote but there or thereabouts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭Infini


    Come March 29th the United Kingdom will become the United Memedom of "Its Happening".

    Doom Ron Paul making a comeback for this lol!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,589 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Won’t happen or else Softest of soft brexits
    A soft brexit means taking back control of immigration in return for handing over the UK Veto and seat at the table.

    And non-EU immigration is on the up and up and May has COMPLETE CONTROL over that, it used to be her job so she has no excuses.

    China and India together exceed May's 100,000 target.

    And India have made it very, very clear that any trade deal with the UK will depend on three things. Visas, visas and visas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭Elemonator


    I'm glad I'm not the only one with the inner desire to see it come all crashing down even though my intelligent self would not like to see it, good to know I'm not the only one that belongs in the crazy house :P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Elemonator wrote: »
    I'm glad I'm not the only one with the inner desire to see it come all crashing down even though my intelligent self would not like to see it, good to know I'm not the only one that belongs in the crazy house :P

    If the UK crash out they will suffer, no question.
    And there will be a thousand spin doctors getting paid huge money to "explain" (lie) to the people, how everything is the fault of the evil EU and if they just adopt a more stringent position, they will be given the unicorn poop and pink rainbows they have promised.
    And the people will lap that bullsh*t up like it's milk and honey.
    And I am wondering, would they eventually get it, or would they just get angrier and more belligerent and make it worse and worse for themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Play our cards right and we can get Scotland along with the North back.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Play our cards right and we can get Scotland along with the North back.

    Ah no, we're grand.


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