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Born again Christians preaching on our streets

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Gravelly wrote: »
    I actually remember reading about that a while back - I fear that telling him that might just make him pray harder!

    Which is fine! So long as he stops telling you about it :) Let the fekkor build a shrine to your eternal well being in his basement for all you care - once he keeps his gob shut about it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    This is fairly common in Dublin. If it's not the Muslims, Athiest Ireland and JW outside the GPO it's a bloke with a microphone across the street talking about Christianity. I don't have a problem with it, it's nice to live in a place where different groups can advertise. They are respectful and don't harass anyone.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ^ I just hope that whether it is Atheist Ireland, a Busker, or a Christian with a portable speaker - they have all applied for the proper public license to be there and the Guards are not turning a blind eye to any of them if they have not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I've seen one of their stands in Galway


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    There was a fella in Limerick once who seriously riled me.

    Certain sects of Protestantism are super weird. This creeper didn't regard Catholics as Christians. The cheek of the creature to proclaim that on the streets of an Irish city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Did ye ever get Chick tracts from them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,197 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Was there a first?

    Unlikely. Even less likely was the second.

    But, if he did exist 2000 years ago, he's definitely dead now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    God bless their little hearts I say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭aziz




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭QuintusFabius


    Great !
    A thread where we can make fun out of Christians! Good thing it's not Muslim preachers on the streets, otherwise we would have to say how great and diverse it is and how anyone critical is a racist!


  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭John DoeReMi


    Great !
    A thread where we can make fun out of Christians! Good thing it's not Muslim preachers on the streets, otherwise we would have to say how great and diverse it is and how anyone critical is a racist!

    Actually the Muslims have a stand now outside the GPO.


  • Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭Muckka


    Actually the Muslims have a stand now outside the GPO.

    They've a stand in Galway too on shop street.

    Funniest moment I can remember was when someone with one of those guy's who was wearing an atheist ireland t-shirt came over to talk to him.

    The atheist guy's were looking for people to sign a petition about catholism and schools or something.
    They all get along, same as the Christian guy Phillip in Galway, he goes to get coffee, then the Islamic guys watch his stand.
    He brings back coffee for every one...

    The banter and craic there is good sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Actually the Muslims have a stand now outside the GPO.

    At least they just stand there, they don't have a microphone shouting at people as they pass by


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    There is a guy in work is one of these, he works, breaks but preaches or hands out leaflets and goes back working.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    What's a born again Christian?

    A person with mental issues far greater than that of the average God botherer.
    The fact that we take any of these people seriously instead of sending them for counseling is the question.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I use to hate when they would keep calling to a house I was renting.

    I had no time for it and they really were annoying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭QuintusFabius


    Muckka wrote: »
    They've a stand in Galway too on shop street.

    Funniest moment I can remember was when someone with one of those guy's who was wearing an atheist ireland t-shirt came over to talk to him.

    The atheist guy's were looking for people to sign a petition about catholism and schools or something.
    They all get along, same as the Christian guy Phillip in Galway, he goes to get coffee, then the Islamic guys watch his stand.
    He brings back coffee for every one...

    The banter and craic there is good sometimes.

    Yes atheists have aligned themselves with Islamists - it's very worrying, their hatred for the catholic church is so savage they allign themselves with the most bigoted ideology on Earth.
    Just have a look at the atheism forum - some lunatics over there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭QuintusFabius


    eviltwin wrote: »
    At least they just stand there, they don't have a microphone shouting at people as they pass by

    Well , I saw one guy frothing at the mouth trying to convince some teenager that Islam was the only way.
    Total fundamentalist.
    The leftist progressive morons were looking on thinking how woke this is !
    Even the gay lads - Turkeys voting for Christmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,573 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Muckka wrote: »
    They've a stand in Galway too on shop street.

    Funniest moment I can remember was when someone with one of those guy's who was wearing an atheist ireland t-shirt came over to talk to him.

    The atheist guy's were looking for people to sign a petition about catholism and schools or something.
    They all get along, same as the Christian guy Phillip in Galway, he goes to get coffee, then the Islamic guys watch his stand.
    He brings back coffee for every one...

    The banter and craic there is good sometimes.
    Yes atheists have aligned themselves with Islamists - it's very worrying, their hatred for the catholic church is so savage they allign themselves with the most bigoted ideology on Earth.
    Just have a look at the atheism forum - some lunatics over there.


    Two groups of people being civil to each other. What has the world come to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    kneemos wrote: »
    The worst kind.

    I would have said the only kind of Christian....the rest are just religious people. Like saying being born in McDonald's makes me a big Mac.

    Saying that some of what goes on in the name of Christianity is embarrassing....and no I never struggled to find meaning to my life despite an earlier definition :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭QuintusFabius


    Two groups of people being civil to each other. What has the world come to.

    Except that they aren't civil to Christians, they will just sneer at them ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,573 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Except that they aren't civil to Christians, they will just sneer at them ..




    hmmm

    Muckka wrote: »
    They've a stand in Galway too on shop street.

    Funniest moment I can remember was when someone with one of those guy's who was wearing an atheist ireland t-shirt came over to talk to him.

    The atheist guy's were looking for people to sign a petition about catholism and schools or something.
    They all get along, same as the Christian guy Phillip in Galway, he goes to get coffee, then the Islamic guys watch his stand.
    He brings back coffee for every one...

    The banter and craic there is good sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,684 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    Well , I saw one guy frothing at the mouth trying to convince some teenager that Islam was the only way.
    Total fundamentalist.
    The leftist progressive morons were looking on thinking how woke this is !
    Even the gay lads - Turkeys voting for Christmas.

    Bollocks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭Muckka


    Yes atheists have aligned themselves with Islamists - it's very worrying, their hatred for the catholic church is so savage they allign themselves with the most bigoted ideology on Earth.
    Just have a look at the atheism forum - some lunatics over there.

    I think they're talking about the school's having less influence from the Catholic church, nothing to do with ganging up on anyone.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yes atheists have aligned themselves with Islamists - it's very worrying, their hatred for the catholic church is so savage they allign themselves with the most bigoted ideology on Earth.

    To be accurate Atheist Ireland, not atheists in general, have aligned with the Evangelical Alliance, and specifically the Ahmadi Muslims - off the back of one _single issue_ related to the discrimination in school access for minorities.
    Except that they aren't civil to Christians, they will just sneer at them ..

    Well as I just said when they united in this single issue - they united with an Islamic group _and_ a Christian group. So - yea not sure you are painting a good faith picture here of what has happened there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭Muckka


    Yes atheists have aligned themselves with Islamists - it's very worrying, their hatred for the catholic church is so savage they allign themselves with the most bigoted ideology on Earth.
    Just have a look at the atheism forum - some lunatics over there.

    There's lunatics everywhere.

    I don't know any atheists who hate the Catholic church, but I suppose some are recovering from the damage the church did to people and society over the years.

    Do you have something against atheists ?

    Isn't love thy neighbour somewhere in the Catholic doctorine.

    I don't know much about Christianity or Atheism myself.
    I don't join their debate's or delve much into the whole God thing.

    I know nothing about it,so I've no business going there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Except that they aren't civil to Christians, they will just sneer at them ..

    You need to chill out a bit snowflake. You atheist bashing hipsters get wound up so easily.


  • Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭Muckka


    Effects wrote: »
    You need to chill out a bit snowflake. You atheist bashing hipsters get wound up so easily.

    Atheists don't bash hipster's ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Well , I saw one guy frothing at the mouth trying to convince some teenager that Islam was the only way.
    Total fundamentalist.
    The leftist progressive morons were looking on thinking how woke this is !
    Even the gay lads - Turkeys voting for Christmas.

    Who approached who I wonder?

    I've had verbals with a few of them but it's always been instigated by me. Never had anyone try and coerce me into a conversion apart from the Scientology nutters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,941 ✭✭✭granturismo


    aziz wrote: »

    This is how to deal with street preachers.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Earthsnotflat


    In relation to what people say and claim about themselves and their faith there is no better method of discerning than " you will know them by their fruit". So anyone believing there's one good God who is love and in the same time doing something that is repulsive and evil, you know then, this is one rotten fruit, don't eat it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Deja Boo wrote: »
    What is this "I found Jesus" bit? ......was He lost?

    Have a loud neighbour who ends every sentence with "Praise the Lord!"
    ...all I can think is 'please do it elsewhere'
    I was walking through Dublin city center with a friend and we were approached by one of those evangelical lads asking if we had found Jesus.


    Yer man just replied 'Jaysus, I didn't even know he was missing' without missing a beat and stayed walking on:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Which is fine! So long as he stops telling you about it :) Let the fekkor build a shrine to your eternal well being in his basement for all you care - once he keeps his gob shut about it :)

    Kind of goes against the whole spreading the message idea though, doesn't it.
    Great !
    A thread where we can make fun out of Christians! Good thing it's not Muslim preachers on the streets, otherwise we would have to say how great and diverse it is and how anyone critical is a racist!

    Don't see many people making fun of Christians, apart from the odd ridiculous atheist remark, which is best ignored.
    eviltwin wrote: »
    Who approached who I wonder?

    I've had verbals with a few of them but it's always been instigated by me. Never had anyone try and coerce me into a conversion apart from the Scientology nutters.

    Nutters? Scientology is the fastest growing religion in Ireland and the world(*).

    * If you use square footage of Ideal Org as the metric.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    I notice in several cities of late these preacher types with microphones and a bible mixing typical Jesus loves you/be saved from sin with political and social issues. Typically, they would condemn the Irish government, Donald Trump, the Catholic Church and mix it up with Christ. Sometimes, they do busking as well as preaching. Who are they?

    I find it fascinating that in America it's supposed Christians that are supporting Trump.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I find it fascinating that in America it's supposed Christians that are supporting Trump.

    They love him because he pretends to be a Christian. Mike Pence is a devout Christian. Also, Reagan made a promise to promote their values when he ran and they've sided with the Republican candidate ever since anyway. His pro-Israeli, anti-LGBT and anti-abortion stances would be a big winner with them also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Berserker wrote: »
    They love him because he pretends to be a Christian. Mike Pence is a devout Christian. Also, Reagan made a promise to promote their values when he ran and they've sided with the Republican candidate ever since anyway. His pro-Israeli, anti-LGBT and anti-abortion stances would be a big winner with them also.

    I don't think trump has ever pretended to be a Christian.

    Why the American evangelicals love him is a mystery but then being American goes a long way to explaining it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,865 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    I don't think trump has ever pretended to be a Christian.

    Why the American evangelicals love him is a mystery but then being American goes a long way to explaining it.

    They love him because he wasnt Hillary Clinton.

    American Pentecostals and Evangelicals have always been a strange lot.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,505 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    I don't think trump has ever pretended to be a Christian.

    He was asked what his favourite book was. He replied "the Bible". The interviewer asked what his favourite passage was, he quickly replied "all of it" to disguise the fact that he probably couldn't tell a Bible quote from a line in Lord of the Rings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    I don't think trump has ever pretended to be a Christian.

    Really, what about 'I brought my bible' and 'In America we don't worship government, we worship God', speeches? He certainly pretended to be one during the campaign.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    And he obviously doesn't believe in love thy neighbour as thyself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    Have you thought about asking them who they are ?

    This might free up space in AH for our usual inane threads.

    On a lighter note , I work with a born again Christian who gets prophetic dreams that she draws out the following morning with crayons

    So far I can expect to be guided to safety by two ostriches and a giraffe/person according to her.

    Less of the putdowns. I merely asked a bloody question, not accused this preacher of being right or wrong. This is the problem with this site, ain't it. Bullies and more bullies and no one can answer a freaking question!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    You can see plenty of them in Speakers Corner in Hyde Park, London.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Berserker wrote: »
    Kind of goes against the whole spreading the message idea though, doesn't it.

    Depends who's message you mean. Quite a lot of Christians interpret the text as saying they should lead my example. The whole "by fruits you shall know them" shtick for example. Not everyone things evangelism is the method by which to spread their faith.

    That said though - above we were discussing the whole "I will pray for you" statement which has been shown in study to be harmful. This is not really "spreading the message" as much as reciting a mantra. The whole "Have you heard the good news about Jesus - he died for your sins" crowd - now they are spreading a message.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,505 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Dead, actually. For 2000 years. People are awaiting his second coming, not realising that he already did that.

    There's no third coming, peeps.

    Nor a second coming.. just some bearded lad who died a long time ago


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Depends who's message you mean. Quite a lot of Christians interpret the text as saying they should lead my example. The whole "by fruits you shall know them" shtick for example. Not everyone things evangelism is the method by which to spread their faith.

    That said though - above we were discussing the whole "I will pray for you" statement which has been shown in study to be harmful. This is not really "spreading the message" as much as reciting a mantra. The whole "Have you heard the good news about Jesus - he died for your sins" crowd - now they are spreading a message.
    What are you going to do now you know that message? You'll never be able to say you never heard!

    There's another message..God reconciled the world to Himself in Jesus Christ....now you be reconciled to God.

    It's a much better message than "have you found Jesus".... again, never knew He was lost:)


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What will I do with it? Ignore with with all the rest of the evidence devoid tosh I have heard the "message" for that people make up out of their over active imaginations - usually for profit :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    What will I do with it? Ignore with with all the rest of the evidence devoid tosh I have heard the "message" for that people make up out of their over active imaginations - usually for profit :)

    That's exactly the question to be asked! What will you do with it?

    Sadly some use it for profit...I'd have serious questions about their type of Christianity especially when Jesus was the complete opposite,buts it's always been like that. Just read the New Testament. Thankfuly we're called to follow Him not some "Mr/s Rich" .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Less of the putdowns. I merely asked a bloody question, not accused this preacher of being right or wrong. This is the problem with this site, ain't it. Bullies and more bullies and no one can answer a freaking question!

    Bless you , my child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,051 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    My reaction to these preachers is one of pity, not scorn. It's such an anaemic, warped view of the world, to think that you are one of the chosen ones. You have the answers, and other religions that say the same things are just wrong. You can save others, you just have to stand on a street corner and shout louder than the others. You're so concerned about the "next life" that you have given up the chance to fully live the life you have today.

    Ye Hypocrites, are these your pranks
    To murder men and gie God thanks?
    Desist for shame, proceed no further
    God won't accept your thanks for murder.

    ―Robert Burns



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Earthsnotflat


    Religions are very powerful tool indeed to control people, but if you (I mean whoever) think about Bible's message and what was Jesus teaching, it all went against religion, the focus was on personal faith. One can generalize that all religions are promising is basically some afterlife at some god's house that is to be worked hard to deserve in this life and at this earth currency, administered by some kind of clergy who stands between people and god. Bible says that's Jesus role as He is God/man in one person. No need for middle man, no need to pay.
    But this is a bit of a problem for religions, it seems like they are not really necessary , worse even, they stand in the way and distort the way to God, which is by faith only. So all their power and accumulated throughout centuries money is useless from afterlife point of view. Like Pharaoh's treasures buried with them.


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