US Death penalty

DEFTLEFTHAND · 19-01-2019 08:51PM #1

Scott Dozier a convicted murderer hanged himself in his cell 10 days ago. He had been campaigning for his Death sentence to be carried out for the past 2 years, he stopped the appeal process and told a judge in court that he wanted the sentence enforced.

There's a halt on lethal injections in certain States at the moment because drug companies are refusing to provide.

Dozier asked for the chair, firing squad or gas chamber, but none of these methods are used in the State of Neveda.

I feel very sorry for him in a weird sort of way.

punisher5112 · 19-01-2019 08:52PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Scott Dozier a convicted murderer hanged himself in his cell 10 days ago. He had been campaigning for his Death sentence to be carried out for the past 2 years, he stopped the appeal process and told a judge in court that he wanted the sentence enforced.

There's a halt on lethal injections in certain States at the moment because drug companies are refusing to provide.

Dozier asked for the chair, firing squad or gas chamber, but none of these methods are used in the State of Neveda.

I feel very sorry for him in a weird sort of way.

Why though.

He inflicted harm on others so should have to suffer.

Pity there is a stop to it though.

Kevin Finnerty · 19-01-2019 08:53PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Scott Dozier a convicted murderer hanged himself in his cell 10 days ago. He had been campaigning for his Death sentence to be carried out for the past 2 years, he stopped the appeal process and told a judge in court that he wanted the sentence enforced.

There's a halt on lethal injections in certain States at the moment because drug companies are refusing to provide.

Dozier asked for the chair, firing squad or gas chamber, but none of these methods are used in the State of Neveda.

I feel very sorry for him in a weird sort of way.

At least he wasn't a coward about it.

Feisar · 19-01-2019 09:11PM

Google "countries in the world with the death penalty" and look at the google images and a world map.

Says a lot.

LETHAL LADY · 19-01-2019 09:23PM

Watched "The innocent Man" Netflix documentary series recently. John Grisham's book is the true account of the series. I won't spoil it for those who haven't seen it but it certainly makes you think twice about the death penalty. Makes for sad viewing.

Capt'n Midnight · 19-01-2019 09:25PM

In the US it costs more to execute a person than keep them in prison for life.

Because of the appeals and court costs.

BTW it's the European drug companies that are refusing to cooperate. Some low-life in the UK was reshipping the stuff to the US just for that purpose.

Anyway the death penalty is too lenient, because there is always the possibility of reincarnation.

tomoliver · 19-01-2019 09:31PM

I doubt it was guilt or remorse that drove his actions

DEFTLEFTHAND · 19-01-2019 09:33PM

There's fierce questions about the Lethal Injection.

The condemed man does suffer. They give them a drug which paralyses the body before the lethal dose of potassium chloride.

Yrs ago a man by the name of Robyn Lee Parks was executed by LI. He wasn't administered the paralysis drug and relaxant by accident. What happened then was harrowing, he screamed and contorted on the table for 11mins. Fully aware and conscious shouting things like 'I'm burning', and 'God please come."

Feisar · 19-01-2019 09:43PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

There's fierce questions about the Lethal Injection.

The condemed man does suffer. They give them a drug which paralyses the body before the lethal dose of potassium chloride.

Yrs ago a man by the name of Robyn Lee Parks was executed by LI. He wasn't administered the paralysis drug and relaxant by accident. What happened then was harrowing, he screamed and contorted on the table for 11mins. Fully aware and conscious shouting things like 'I'm burning', and 'God please come."

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

theguzman · 19-01-2019 09:44PM

If we had it here it would deliver swift justice and all people with 100+ convictions should be sent to the gallows or swiftly bulleted.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 19-01-2019 09:51PM

Firing squad is the most humane method in my opinion.

5 marksmen aiming at a target over the heart. Instant death.

Hanging can be rough, even with the long drop method it usually takes 30 to 45 mins for the body to fully expire.

19-01-2019 09:58PM

Feisar wrote: »

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

You realise how many innocent people have been executed?

Oink · 19-01-2019 10:02PM

Meh. Over there it’s not about justice, it’s about revenge. Therefore going to jail or being executed is not enough, it has to be humiliating or painful.

Over here we tend to think that degrading treatment shames the perpetrator rather than the victim.

In general that is. There’s always someone calling for torture. Whatchagonnado.

goat2 · 19-01-2019 10:09PM

All I think of is, how their victims suffered in their hands, they did not care

theguzman · 19-01-2019 10:10PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You realise how many innocent people have been executed?

Far far less than the number of innocent people who have been killed by repeat offenders who should have been hung or shot dead by firing squad. While a murderer is alive he will always pose a threat, the same for pedophiles. If we had a proper right wing Justice system which delivered actual Justice then we would have proper sentencing for petty crimes and Capital punishment for the most serious crimes. Ireland should have at least 10,000 to 20,000 additional prison places added for long term sentencing and the death sentence be carried out on at least a monthly basis.

The leftwing will always object because they attract the majority of these subhuman thrash criminals into their voter base and they are the ones who will be effected wheras law abiding middle class citizens are less likely to commit crime but far more likely to be the victims of it.

The fact that some scumbag can walk out of a court with 300+ criminal convictions is a disgrace, he is proof that rehabilitation and second chances or 332nd chances don't work, execution is the best option and save the society the hassle of dealing with it daily. The parasite legal profession will naturally back said scumbag since the free legal aid is one of their biggest earners. A sweep of Dublin's quays and around the Luas would provide a modern day Pierrepoint with a lifetimes supply of work.

Seth Brundle · 19-01-2019 10:12PM

goat2 wrote: »

All I think of is, how their victims suffered in their hands, they did not care

I'll refer you to this earlier post...

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You realise how many innocent people have been executed?

Mad_maxx · 19-01-2019 10:16PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Firing squad is the most humane method in my opinion.

5 marksmen aiming at a target over the heart. Instant death.

Hanging can be rough, even with the long drop method it usually takes 30 to 45 mins for the body to fully expire.

Bullet to the back of the head like in China or the Soviet union back in the day, electric chair or lethal injection is barbaric

woddensanta · 19-01-2019 10:17PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Hanging can be rough, even with the long drop method it usually takes 30 to 45 mins for the body to fully expire.

Whaaa? Really? How?

alan1963 · 19-01-2019 10:17PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Firing squad is the most humane method in my opinion.

5 marksmen aiming at a target over the heart. Instant death.

Hanging can be rough, even with the long drop method it usually takes 30 to 45 mins for the body to fully expire.

This is not true at all,read a book about it once, breaks the neck instantly, takes seconds to die.
The British perfected it.

Mad_maxx · 19-01-2019 10:18PM

theguzman wrote: »

Far far less than the number of innocent people who have been killed by repeat offenders who should have been hung or shot dead by firing squad. While a murderer is alive he will always pose a threat, the same for pedophiles. If we had a proper right wing Justice system which delivered actual Justice then we would have proper sentencing for petty crimes and Capital punishment for the most serious crimes. Ireland should have at least 10,000 to 20,000 additional prison places added for long term sentencing and the death sentence be carried out on at least a monthly basis.

The leftwing will always object because they attract the majority of these subhuman thrash criminals into their voter base and they are the ones who will be effected wheras law abiding middle class citizens are less likely to commit crime but far more likely to be the victims of it.

The fact that some scumbag can walk out of a court with 300+ criminal convictions is a disgrace, he is proof that rehabilitation and second chances or 332nd chances don't work, execution is the best option and save the society the hassle of dealing with it daily. The parasite legal profession will naturally back said scumbag since the free legal aid is one of their biggest earners. A sweep of Dublin's quays and around the Luas would provide a modern day Pierrepoint with a lifetimes supply of work.

That's a different argument, we should not wish to make the execution painful, hanging when done right is not painful

Wibbs · 19-01-2019 10:24PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Firing squad is the most humane method in my opinion.

5 marksmen aiming at a target over the heart. Instant death.

Not quite instant D. After the heart stops the brain will likely stay conscious for around ten seconds and brain activity can go on for some minutes, but how conscious that is who knows. In old style executions they administered the coup de grace, a gunshot to the head immediately after.

Hanging can be rough, even with the long drop method it usually takes 30 to 45 mins for the body to fully expire.

Short drop, yeah, but long drop is likely instant lights out. The spine detaches from the skull/brain as it's essentially a decapitation without the head coming off(usually), the massive shock to the head at the end of the drop causes instant deep coma level unconsciousness, the lack of blood supply to the brain caused by the constriction of the rope will cause full brain death within minutes. Yes the rest of the body will usually keep going for a while after, but in many cases the heart also stops almost immediately after the drop. If given the horrible choice of all current legally mandated methods, I'd take the long drop myself. Bullet to the back of the skull another.

Nitrogen asphyxiation would be about the most humane.

corner of hells · 19-01-2019 10:24PM

theguzman wrote: »

Far far less than the number of innocent people who have been killed by repeat offenders who should have been hung or shot dead by firing squad. While a murderer is alive he will always pose a threat, the same for pedophiles. If we had a proper right wing Justice system which delivered actual Justice then we would have proper sentencing for petty crimes and Capital punishment for the most serious crimes. Ireland should have at least 10,000 to 20,000 additional prison places added for long term sentencing and the death sentence be carried out on at least a monthly basis.

The leftwing will always object because they attract the majority of these subhuman thrash criminals into their voter base and they are the ones who will be effected wheras law abiding middle class citizens are less likely to commit crime but far more likely to be the victims of it.

The fact that some scumbag can walk out of a court with 300+ criminal convictions is a disgrace, he is proof that rehabilitation and second chances or 332nd chances don't work, execution is the best option and save the society the hassle of dealing with it daily. The parasite legal profession will naturally back said scumbag since the free legal aid is one of their biggest earners. A sweep of Dublin's quays and around the Luas would provide a modern day Pierrepoint with a lifetimes supply of work.

Are you killing people because of the amount of convictions they have or for specific convictions ?

bop1977 · 19-01-2019 10:26PM

alan1963 wrote: »

This is not true at all,read a book about it once, breaks the neck instantly, takes seconds to die.
The British perfected it.

The hangman’s guide book was done by an Irish man.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Haughton

tomoliver · 19-01-2019 10:26PM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Bullet to the back of the head like in China or the Soviet union back in the day, electric chair or lethal injection is barbaric

Electric chair is comical

It's about the last way you'd think of giving someone a humane death

Gael23 · 19-01-2019 10:30PM

Bring back the electric chair.

No need for cooperation of drug suppliers. Or go buy a shotgun.

tomoliver · 19-01-2019 10:31PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Bring back the electric chair.

No need for cooperation of drug suppliers. Or go buy a shotgun.

Only if they do it like the green mile

DEFTLEFTHAND · 19-01-2019 10:33PM

alan1963 wrote: »

This is not true at all,read a book about it once, breaks the neck instantly, takes seconds to die.
The British perfected it.

The person feels nothhng, they're brain dead from the time of impact, broken neck.

But there has been cases of people cut down who still had a pulse, the body will fight to stay alive.

I believe the British had a regulation 3 hrs hanging on the long drop.

Gael23 · 19-01-2019 10:36PM

tomoliver wrote: »

Only if they do it like the green mile

The electric chair?

the_syco · 19-01-2019 10:55PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Yrs ago a man by the name of Robyn Lee Parks was executed by LI. He wasn't administered the paralysis drug and relaxant by accident. What happened then was harrowing, he screamed and contorted on the table for 11mins. Fully aware and conscious shouting things like 'I'm burning', and 'God please come."

An expensive price for a tank or petrol.

o save himself the price of a tank of petrol, Parks had shot the petrol station cashier. But what he didn’t realise was that a credit card slip had already been printed with his number plate on it.

Parks had already chalked up a whole heap of previous crimes during the ‘70s, including armed robbery, so he was sentenced to death for killing Abdullah Ibrahim in 1978.

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After being beheaded, people have still responded to their name being called...

19-01-2019 10:58PM

Don't know why they can't just do a general anaesthetic and pick any one of the countless ways to kill an unconscious body.

tomoliver · 19-01-2019 11:00PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Don't know why they can't just do a general anaesthetic and pick any one of the countless ways to kill an unconscious body.

General anaesthetic then electric chair

When the chair wakes them give them the firing squad

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