Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

KrustyUCC · 18-01-2019 12:54AM

Under 22k

No bother to her

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 18-01-2019 12:58AM

alias no.9 wrote: »

What would make the property suitable?

Rent cheap enough that hap would cover it, ie, me and you pay for it.

DaithiMa · 18-01-2019 01:22AM

alias no.9 wrote: »

What would make the property suitable?

A few stables and a couple of acres.

sligojoek · 18-01-2019 01:37AM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes maybe , that's what should've happened. What should happen from now on. Unbearable on that poor young lad, I have a boy that age and I can't imagine him trying to rescue people and babies out of a burning building.

I have two boys in their teens. I would never put myself and them in a situation where they were to be the saviours if anything were to go wrong.

I'm not empathetic. I lost my sister at a very early age. I know what it can do to a family. But the constant blaming of the council is ridiculous. Margaret Cash calls the thing "The Carrickmines Killings" It's as if the council sent a few lads out to "Burn them out of it".

Grab All Association · 18-01-2019 04:45AM

Jasiah Hot Talker wrote: »

Rent cheap enough that hap would cover it, ie, me and you pay for it.

That it’s council owned and they’re more sympathetic and less likely to evict when her children rack up 100s of convictions stealing and terrorising the locals before the age of 16

Fr_Dougal · 18-01-2019 09:45AM

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

Fair play to her for making and attempt towards housing her family, asking about the log cabin.

It's nice she owns a site. Never ending flow of money.

She won’t *buy* it, you can be sure of that.

Ray Palmer · 18-01-2019 10:53AM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Ray Palmer wrote: »

I never claimed to rent to travellers, go look back. I would if I had a property suitable but I don't.

You are claiming because you pay taxes and bough your own property you had more rights than them to say how tax money should be spent. They also pay taxes and have a say, see you are just a hypocrite

If I recall you placed several cultural and social aspects of travellers as them all be criminals and disparaged the idea they have a culture. They are all racist things to say even if you don't think they are a minority or a race. Did you not do these things?

Now what level of racist are you? I answered your questions

I just asked whether you would
Keep up.

What is traveller culture?

(Ive disparaged criminality..fraud...theft... violence..domestic violence...)
Is that the culture you're at great pains to defend?

You are moving goal posts all over the place. I never claimed to rent to travellers and you asked if I would. I said I would and you came back pointing out I never did. That is you suggesting I said I did claim to rent to travellers.

You are, while doing it again, saying travellers are all criminals. You asked me to point how you are racist and have done so. You denying it racist doesn't change what it is.

Paddy Cow · 18-01-2019 12:14PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes maybe , that's what should've happened. What should happen from now on. Unbearable on that poor young lad, I have a boy that age and I can't imagine him trying to rescue people and babies out of a burning building.

Can you imagine getting so drunk and stoned that you'd end up setting your house on fire and putting your son in that position?

punisher5112 · 18-01-2019 12:18PM

Personal responsibility goes a hell of a long way.

We actually need a political stance where they say enough is enough and we actually can't be painted this way anymore and actually state the facts for what they are.

If any political party was to do this I would be backing them no problems.

Deebles McBeebles · 18-01-2019 12:39PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

What level of racist are you so?

This should be remembered as fondly as the Amish and settled people dumping on halting sites.

alias no.9 wrote: »

What would make the property suitable?

Grab All Association wrote: »

That it’s council owned and they’re more sympathetic and less likely to evict when her children rack up 100s of convictions stealing and terrorising the locals before the age of 16

Not just my town then.

punisher5112 · 18-01-2019 12:54PM

Them Amish oh will they ever learn you can't be taking a dump on halting sites....

Ray Palmer · 18-01-2019 01:22PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

Them Amish oh will they ever learn you can't be taking a dump on halting sites....

You are aware there is actually an Amish community in Ireland?

KrustyUCC · 18-01-2019 01:27PM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

This should be remembered as fondly as the Amish and settled people dumping on halting sites.

Yeah and it keeps happening as well in the same areas. Unlucky really

Cork City Council working to eliminate scourge of illegal dumping on northside site

ity Hall is working on a long-term strategy to eliminate the scourge of illegal dumping on a vast site on the northside of Cork city.

The news came yesterday following confirmation that funding for a massive clean-up of the city council-owned Ellis’s Yard site in Ballyvolane has been secured.

Councillors were told on Monday that it is hoped the work will start within weeks, and will include the repair of security fencing around the site and the installation of CCTV cameras.

The site, next to the Spring Lane halting site, has been plagued by repeated incidents of illegal dumping over the years, with Cork City Council spending more than €500,000 between 2003 and 2014 on large-scale clean-ups of the site.

https://www.eveningecho.ie/nationalnews/Cork-City-Council-working-to-eliminate-scourge-of-illegal-dumping-on-northside-site-7e02ca48-2041-487a-860f-1c309a3700fc-ds

Gravelly · 18-01-2019 01:35PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

You are aware there is actually an Amish community in Ireland?

Are you aware that the poster you responded to didn't claim there wasn't?

You remind me of a half-mad oul aunt I have, who butts into conversations with a response that is totally unrelated to what everyone was speaking about.

Gravelly · 18-01-2019 01:37PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Councillors were told on Monday that it is hoped the work will start within weeks, and will include the repair of security fencing around the site and the installation of CCTV cameras.

I predict that they will be the shortest-lived CCTV cameras in the history of the world.

Ruraldweller56 · 18-01-2019 01:43PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

You are aware there is actually an Amish community in Ireland?

1) yes

2) it has as much to do with this as the tribes living in the forest, asylum seekers, Rogers alleged kids and how much tax you claim to pay because of your sh@t accountant that you've already tried to derail the thread with.

3) they dump their rubbish square in the middle of halting sites and the travellers living there are so scared to say anything that they just blame the settled community.

Roger Hassenforder · 18-01-2019 02:19PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Tax credit is still a payment of money by the state.
Private schools still take state money. I have always held the view that if you want to send your kids to private schools then pay for it entirely. Why should I as a tax payer pay for your lifestyle choices and luxury?
You have no problem funding those who don't need it I see. Do traveller children have any choice in their situation? So when the state give you money that you can spend on ski trips for you think that is fine but to make sure some other children don't live in squaller you don't think the should.
The difference is you are a racist and think you have more rights to say how taxes are spent.
Stuff

You're all over the place. Incoherent ramblings, bereft of any continuity of thought or a modicum of a point, replete with strawmans. All you've in the locker is "racist"

Simple question. How am I a racist?

Ruraldweller56 · 18-01-2019 02:24PM

Innocent traveller gets beaten with brick by members of the Amish community for slinging crack on their patch.

tuxy wrote: »

The bashing is worse on Youtube!

Deebles McBeebles · 18-01-2019 02:28PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Simple question. How am I a racist?

You say less than brilliant things about a certain subsection of the poor auld travellers. So, like a traveller robbing from Lidl, easier just to scream racist.

Ray, would you move next to a halting site? Third time of asking.

Ray Palmer · 18-01-2019 02:31PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Simple question. How am I a racist?

Asked and answered. I repeat what level of racist are you?
Ignoring the issues with your children's private education taking state funding. A much higher amount of money you are complaining about at about 110 million a year.

ohnonotgmail · 18-01-2019 02:33PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Asked and answered. I repeat what level of racist are you?
Ignoring the issues with your children's private education taking state funding. A much higher amount of money you are complaining about at about 110 million a year.

Why is his children's education not entitled to the same level of funding as every other child?

alias no.9 · 18-01-2019 02:34PM

Ray Palmer wrote:

I never claimed to rent to travellers, go look back. I would if I had a property suitable but I don't.

alias no.9 wrote: »

What would make the property suitable?

I'll try a different approach, what makes your entire property portfolio unsuitable to let to travellers?

Ray Palmer · 18-01-2019 02:38PM

George
Basically I am trying to figure out your logic. I am asking you relevant questions to your views. Just because you can't comprehend why and what I am asking says more about you than me.
How do you feel about minorities and funding or other people is all relevant as such. Is it just travellers you are racist about? You are racist that is not a question left to be answered. Whether you admit it doesn't make any difference.

Ray Palmer · 18-01-2019 02:41PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Asked and answered. I repeat what level of racist are you?
Ignoring the issues with your children's private education taking state funding. A much higher amount of money you are complaining about at about 110 million a year.

Why is his children's education not entitled to the same level of funding as every other child?

He sends them to private school which should not be funded by public money. It is and he is complaining how his tax is spent on travellers. I have a problem with private schools using public money, are you ok with that? €115million a year that costs the state

Roger Hassenforder · 18-01-2019 02:43PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Asked and answered. I repeat what level of racist are you?
Ignoring the issues with your children's private education taking state funding. A much higher amount of money you are complaining about at about 110 million a year.

No you havent.
How am I a racist?

Because i condemn:
Criminality
Fraud
Violence
Domestic violence
Family fueding
Child neglect
Theft
Bigotry
Aggression
Intimidation
Anti social behaviour
Dumping waste
Animal cruelty
Irresponsibility &
Unaccountability

Really?
Thats racist?
In that case i'd be a 5th Dan.
I abhor that stuff. You?

ohnonotgmail · 18-01-2019 02:43PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

He sends them to private school which should not be funded by public money. It is and he is complaining how his tax is spent on travellers. I have a problem with private schools using public money, are you ok with that? €115million a year that costs the state

Private schools get the same level of funding from the government as every other school.

Roger Hassenforder · 18-01-2019 02:44PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Why is his children's education not entitled to the same level of funding as every other child?

(Ssssuuush...they go to state schools, dont tell Ray, he thinks I'm minted)

blanch152 · 18-01-2019 02:48PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

I have never said this was funny, read my posts . I am angry at traveller bashing going on in this thread while this inquest is going on. The council have a list of their sites emergency or otherwise on it and this site was being monitored, but not for fire safety , it appears.

By shifting the blame away from those responsible - the person who took away the smoke alarm, the person who had a chip pan, the person who left it burning away on the highest setting and the people who drank and smoked themselves into unconsciousness - you are making a joke of it.

Neither the government nor the council can control the really stupid acts of really stupid people, unless they lock them up. Even then, as we see in prisons, really stupid acts can still occur. So, unless you believe that the council should have locked them up with guards on the doors watching their every movement, then the only ones to blame are the people in the caravan themselves.

blanch152 · 18-01-2019 02:53PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

He sends them to private school which should not be funded by public money. It is and he is complaining how his tax is spent on travellers. I have a problem with private schools using public money, are you ok with that? €115million a year that costs the state

No issue with taking funding away from private schools. It should be done on a phased basis over a number of years so that there isn't a sharp shock with all the pupils suddenly wanting places in overcrowded existing public schools.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Private schools get the same level of funding from the government as every other school.

Private schools do not get the same level of funding from the government. They get paid for the same number of teachers, but they do not get capitation funding and generally are not eligible for most capital funding. If private schools closed overnight, there would be a significant cost to the taxpayer hence my suggestion above of a phased move.

P.S. I had children, some of whom were educated publicly, some privately, it depended on their needs and wants.

xi5yvm0owc1s2b · 18-01-2019 02:53PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

He sends them to private school which should not be funded by public money. It is and he is complaining how his tax is spent on travellers. I have a problem with private schools using public money, are you ok with that? €115million a year that costs the state

Private schools actually save the state money, but don't let that get in the way of your rant.

Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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