Martin O'Neill. an embarassment.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 17-01-2019 08:19PM #1

sorry folks but i've lost all respect for our erstwhile manager. his latest attempt to promote roy keane as his 2nd in command at Nottingham Forrest is nothing short of embarrassing.

O'Neill said: "I would dearly like him (Keane) to join us. Since this has happened very quickly he has a number of things to sort out himself. There's a spot open for him and I hope it happens. It may not, as he has a few things to sort out himself both personally and professionally.

"He was a great asset to me at Republic of Ireland and we had some really great days.

"He can be a handful. He was a special player, a fantastic footballer who drove Manchester United on for 10 years and you don't win those things just sitting around."

Give over Martin! isn't it time you accepted the guy is a liability, and do the decent thing and cut him loose.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/he-can-be-a-handful-martin-oneill-expresses-hope-that-special-roy-keane-will-join-him-at-nottingham-forest-37722024.html

Tell me how · 17-01-2019 08:22PM

Think Roy might less of a liability than Martin at this stage.

If he landed himself in a club with enough players of a similar mentality to him I would still expect him to do well. But, such players are thin on the ground and he is not best dealing with the newer breed it does seem.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 17-01-2019 08:28PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Think Roy might less of a liability than Martin at this stage.

If he landed himself in a club with enough players of a similar mentality to him I would still expect him to do well. But, such players are thin on the ground and he is not best dealing with the newer breed it does seem.

i have always viewed keane as a wrecker. a good player but a terrible man-manager. i think his abrasive personality is unsuited for modernday management.

Marengo · 17-01-2019 08:37PM

Roy a liability and Martin’s judgement has gone completely. Martin is equally as stubborn.

Seems to be a great bond between the two!

Klonker · 17-01-2019 08:37PM

No team on the world in world would pay it's assistant manager â‚¬600k a year, not even close. Well apart from Ireland that is.

squawker · 17-01-2019 08:39PM

think ye should all take aim at that buffon Delaney for the present shambles of the Irish Football Team

years of mismanagement and cronyism has led us to this debacle

off with his fat fcuking head

Marengo · 17-01-2019 08:40PM

Klonker wrote: »

No team on the world in world would pay it's assistant manager €600k a year, not even close. Well apart from Ireland that is.

We seem to do it across the board, politicians, RTÉ staff.. And we won’t pay nurses adequately.

Marengo · 17-01-2019 08:41PM

squawker wrote: »

think ye should all take aim at that buffon Delaney for the present shambles of the Irish Football Team

years of mismanagement and cronyism has led us to this debacle

off with his fat fcuking head

Completely useless clown. Should be long gone.

frag420 · 17-01-2019 08:41PM

I’ve hated that knob Keane ever since Saipan...he is an opinionated mouthpiece and a shït manager!

Wheres Me Jumper? · 17-01-2019 08:45PM

Marengo wrote: »

Roy a liability and Martin’s judgement has gone completely. Martin is equally as stubborn.

Seems to be a great bond between the two!

indeed. i heard the interview on radio earlier, and O'Neill came accross as quite emotional while effusing about him.
all quite strange and totally unprofessional imo.

Marengo · 17-01-2019 08:45PM

frag420 wrote: »

I’ve hated that knob Keane ever since Saipan...he is an opinionated mouthpiece and a shït manager!

Yeah I was blinded by his ‘striving for perfection’ crap at the time but as the years have gone by I changed my opinion.

Odhinn · 17-01-2019 08:46PM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

sorry folks but i've lost all respect for our erstwhile manager. his latest attempt to promote roy keane as his 2nd in command at Nottingham Forrest is nothing short of embarrassing.

O'Neill said: "I would dearly like him (Keane) to join us. Since this has happened very quickly he has a number of things to sort out himself. There's a spot open for him and I hope it happens. It may not, as he has a few things to sort out himself both personally and professionally.

"He was a great asset to me at Republic of Ireland and we had some really great days.

"He can be a handful. He was a special player, a fantastic footballer who drove Manchester United on for 10 years and you don't win those things just sitting around."

Give over Martin! isn't it time you accepted the guy is a liability, and do the decent thing and cut him loose.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/he-can-be-a-handful-martin-oneill-expresses-hope-that-special-roy-keane-will-join-him-at-nottingham-forest-37722024.html

...it's easy to imagine Forrest about to lodge a complaint about abuse from the visitor stands when somebody points out it was a Keane "pep-talk" from the sidelines.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 17-01-2019 08:46PM

Marengo wrote: »

We seem to do it across the board, politicians, RTÉ staff.. And we won’t pay nurses adequately.

Aye! we have a habit of paying caviar and still getting monkeys.

Mantis Toboggan · 17-01-2019 08:48PM

Don't see what's embarrassing about that?

Marengo · 17-01-2019 08:50PM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

Aye! we have a habit of paying caviar and still getting monkeys.

Nice way of putting it:D

Marengo · 17-01-2019 08:53PM

Keane’s role with the Republic was bizarre the last few years.

Comedian: All the witty press conferences. Mentioning Robbie Keane should be available for a game after the birth of his child as he wasn’t breast feeding

Falling out with players..

Football wise what did he contribute..

Wheres Me Jumper? · 17-01-2019 09:04PM

Marengo wrote: »

Yeah I was blinded by his ‘striving for perfection’ crap at the time but as the years have gone by I changed my opinion.

when you consider how close we got to getting into the semis that time ... losing out to Mendiata's peno
and contrast with our more recent "form" it makes me cry. almost.

Marengo · 17-01-2019 09:12PM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

when you consider how close we got to getting into the semis that time ...
and contrast with our more recent "form" it makes me cry. almost.

Quality of player has really dropped.

If you’re old enough to rem the Charlton years when 7/8 players were with top first division, as it was then, teams. The others lower first division and maybe one player outside it or from Celtic.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 17-01-2019 09:16PM

Marengo wrote: »

Quality of player has really dropped.

If you’re old enough to rem the Charlton years when 7/8 players were with top first division, as it was then, teams. The others lower first division and maybe one player outside it or from Celtic.

there's no denying it. how many Rep players regularily play 1st team for the top 6 premiership sides?

i'm guessing 1 or 2 at most.

Marengo · 17-01-2019 09:18PM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

there's no denying it. how many Rep players regularily play 1st team for the top 6 premiership sides?

i'm guessing 1 or 2 at most.

Seamus Coleman?

NIMAN · 17-01-2019 09:18PM

What the f**k are Forest thinking?

Absolute waste of money, and those 2 muppets won't come cheap.

For Forks Sake · 17-01-2019 09:19PM

Marengo wrote: »

Seamus Coleman?

Everton aren't a top-6 club.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 17-01-2019 09:23PM

Marengo wrote: »

Seamus Coleman?

not even top 6. 10th atm.
i wonder if that West Ham lad Rice will declare for us?

DEFTLEFTHAND · 17-01-2019 09:24PM

There goes Forest's playoff hopes.

They should have kept Karanka ,they were playing some real nice football under him this season.

Also I'm sure the players don't want that madman Keane anywhere near the club.

Marengo · 17-01-2019 09:24PM

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Everton aren't a top-6 club.

I know. They’ve occasionally hit 6th place over the last 4 years:D

Just goes to show how poor our situation is. Clutching at straws.

The Talking Bread · 17-01-2019 09:32PM

Marengo wrote: »

I know. They’ve occasionally hit 6th place over the last 4 years:D

Just goes to show how poor our situation is. Clutching at straws.

They have finished 8th, 7th, 11th and 11th in last 4 seasons....

So, yeah, definitely clutching at straws

Wheres Me Jumper? · 17-01-2019 09:36PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

They have finished 8th, 7th, 11th and 11th in last 4 seasons....

So, yeah, definitely clutching at straws

i think we can all agree the dearth of real top level talent available to us is shockingly bad. personally i dont think Matt Busby, Shankly and Cloughie combined would get far with our current squad.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 17-01-2019 09:37PM

Klonker wrote: »

No team on the world in world would pay it's assistant manager €600k a year, not even close. Well apart from Ireland that is.

Chris Coleman was on 300k a yr when he led Wales to a Euro semi final.

These are the type of salaries a small FA like ours should be paying to the top man, never mind the No. 2.

Marengo · 17-01-2019 09:38PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

They have finished 8th, 7th, 11th and 11th in last 4 seasons....

So, yeah, definitely clutching at straws

I said occasionally hit 6th place during the campaigns. Generally around mid to late August:D

Beechwoodspark · 17-01-2019 09:39PM

ONeill was bloody useless managing Ireland.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 17-01-2019 09:41PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

ONeill was bloody useless managing Ireland.

maybe he want keane on board to deflect some of the heat away from himself?

Martin O'Neill. an embarassment.

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