Ultra Discussion Thread

Jakey Rolling · 05-11-2018 5:59pm

Pete Kostelnick now into the last 20km of his Alaska to Florida self-supported run.

A bit over 8000km in 98 days, not a bad average!

Tracker here

TFBubendorfer · 08-11-2018 10:45pm

The secret of endurance athletes, at least according to the BBC.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20181106-the-secrets-of-endurance-athletes

TFBubendorfer · 12-11-2018 9:29pm

A 100 miles trail run at 7:14 pace. :eek: That's just out of this world!

https://www.strava.com/activities/1960515123/overview

Djoucer · 12-11-2018 11:59pm

He’s something else. Some of his pbs are nuts.

12 hours PB (101.66 miles)
100 miles (11:47:21)
50 mile time (5:12:36)
American Record for 200k (16:33:28).

Djoucer · 15-11-2018 11:52am

https://youtu.be/oeFNtPKqQLI

Backyard Ultra from Laz.

Crazy stuff. Love following these races but would never do one. They’re hellish

The Black Oil · 16-11-2018 11:04pm

Back on the horse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFiwrl0KcvU

grahamor · 30-11-2018 4:30pm

Looks like Enduro is set for a very impressive 7th place finish in Oman by UTMB - https://omanbyutmb.livetrail.run/teteCourse.php

Jakey Rolling · 30-11-2018 6:08pm

Well done Enduro!
Excellent 8th place finish and 1st in O50 category - 140km with almost 8000m climbing, that's some day out!

The Black Oil · 06-12-2018 1:09pm

NY Times profile of Courtney Dauwalter. :eek:

HOMEWOOD, Calif. — At 1:40 in the morning, running through the woods near Lake Tahoe, Courtney Dauwalter began hallucinating.

She saw live puppets playing on a swing set on the side of the trail. Trees and rocks turned into faces. She was on her second night without sleep, 165 miles into a 205-mile race through the mountains, pushing her body to levels considered physically impossible not long ago, and seeing very strange things in the night.

Dauwalter had been on her feet for almost 40 hours and was leading the field of 215 runners as she set her sights on a course record for September’s Tahoe 200, one in a series of very, very long ultramarathons, the latest craze among distance running’s lunatic set. Their hero is Dauwalter, a 33-year old with a reputation for outrunning men and shattering course records. She has won 11 ultramarathons and finished second in seven other endurance races.

TFBubendorfer · 06-12-2018 6:05pm

She saw live puppets playing on a swing set on the side of the trail. Trees and rocks turned into faces. She was on her second night without sleep, 165 miles into a 205-mile race through the mountains, pushing her body to levels considered physically impossible not long ago, and seeing very strange things in the night.

Hallucinations in ultra marathons that run through the night are actually very common. Not that mine ever involved puppies.

Saves a fortune on certain kinds of recreational drugs, too!

TFBubendorfer · 12-12-2018 4:25pm

It took her a year but Camille Herron has figured out the 24 hrs.
The result? A new world record! Two world records in one go, in fact!! :eek:

https://www.fastrunning.com/running-athletics-news/world/womens-world-24hr-record-broken/21601

To put that into context, running 162.9 miles would put her into serious contention for a medal in the men's world championships!

Jakey Rolling · 12-12-2018 8:47pm

Wonder was she fuelling on beer this time?

ultrawoman · 12-12-2018 8:51pm

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Wonder was she fuelling on beer this time?

She had one bottle when she was going through a rough patch and walked a few laps. It seemed to do the trick.
Fantastic race to follow. Some runner.

Good Sports Illustrated interview with her below:

https://www.si.com/edge/2018/12/12/camille-herron-24-hour-run-world-record-track-desert-solstice-162-miles?fbclid=IwAR0hhgTSFp-nPNGdOs0WoiaZtuIlEOEa-9VFT6C1TvfdnVXknycmTwgCtvU

Jakey Rolling · 12-12-2018 11:43pm

I'll have to add that to my training plan for my next 24hr - will let you know how it works out!

Enduro · 13-12-2018 12:26am

Also last weekend we had the world 24 hour champion, and at that point WR holder, Patrycja Bereznowska racing in Wicklow in the RAW 100 miles. Irish international Yvonne Naughton did very well indeed to win the race Female category, with Patrycja in second. An equally great run from another Irish International Mark Doyle to win the Male category also against some good international opposition.

And in the 50 miler I was not at all surprised to see Tom Hogan win big, and blow my old course record away.

Given the stormy conditions it was great to see such large numbers complete both distances. Irish ultrarunning is on a lovely upward curve.

Jakey Rolling · 15-12-2018 11:38am

Anyone have experience of running Windschoten 100km?

Looking to pencil it in to my plan for next year - 10x10km loop, flat, traffic free, 10 am. start is a luxury!
Seems too good to be true, presume it may sell out early?

TFBubendorfer · 15-12-2018 12:56pm

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Anyone have experience of running Windschoten 100km?

Looking to pencil it in to my plan for next year - 10x10km loop, flat, traffic free, 10 am. start is a luxury!
Seems too good to be true, presume it may sell out early?

I haven't run it myself but they have held the World/Euro championships in 2015, and from what I've heard it was an excellent race.

ultrapercy · 15-12-2018 1:02pm

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Anyone have experience of running Windschoten 100km?

Looking to pencil it in to my plan for next year - 10x10km loop, flat, traffic free, 10 am. start is a luxury!
Seems too good to be true, presume it may sell out early?

I haven't run it myself but they have held the World/Euro championships in 2015, and from what I've heard it was an excellent race.

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Anyone have experience of running Windschoten 100km?

Looking to pencil it in to my plan for next year - 10x10km loop, flat, traffic free, 10 am. start is a luxury!
Seems too good to be true, presume it may sell out early?

I raneed it as part of the world champion in 2011. It's very flat and the locals were out in force supporting with garden parties etc. I'd highly recommend it.

Jakey Rolling · 15-12-2018 11:12pm

ultrapercy wrote: »

I raneed it as part of the world champion in 2011. It's very flat and the locals were out in force supporting with garden parties etc. I'd highly recommend it.

Like the sound of that. I see you can also request to stay with a host family if signing up for the 100km.

Will definitely look to sign on when entries open, they even do a refund minus €10 admin fee up until mid-August, very reasonable. Course record at 6h14m ain't bad, there might be hope for me breaking 10 hours yet!

Did you fly to Groningen? (can't see any direct flights). Otherwise seems to be almost 3 hours from Schipol.

ArtieFufkin · 17-12-2018 11:32am

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Like the sound of that. I see you can also request to stay with a host family if signing up for the 100km.

Will definitely look to sign on when entries open, they even do a refund minus €10 admin fee up until mid-August, very reasonable. Course record at 6h14m ain't bad, there might be hope for me breaking 10 hours yet!

Did you fly to Groningen? (can't see any direct flights). Otherwise seems to be almost 3 hours from Schipol.

I think (from memory) that you can get a train direct from Schipol to Groeningen. That's what I did a few years back- not for the race, for a gig.

sutrra · 19-12-2018 12:53am

Hi , planing for xmas holidays to go jn Killarney, and try to go on Carantouhill, is there some easy route with a nice trail, or all the routes are with some tehnical stuff and will be hard to get on top. Planing on going with some normal kit that we use as mandatory kit on races, with some extra midlayer.

Djoucer · 19-12-2018 3:29pm

Check out the routes on Kerry Mtn Rescue page.

Some routes aren’t that technical at all. But the summit is pretty dangerous to descend from if weather comes in.

Devils ladder route is known as tourist route.

You’ll need to know how to use a map and compass going up. Especially this time of year.

tony1980 · 19-12-2018 9:47pm

sutrra wrote: »

Hi , planing for xmas holidays to go jn Killarney, and try to go on Carantouhill, is there some easy route with a nice trail, or all the routes are with some tehnical stuff and will be hard to get on top. Planing on going with some normal kit that we use as mandatory kit on races, with some extra midlayer.

Check out the Zig Zag route. I’ve seen people running that, one with a baby on his back!

jamule · 21-12-2018 9:22am

Can Paddy go 2:16 and goto the L'mpics?

https://www.fastrunning.com/features/the-irish-runner-you-may-not-know-with-olympics-dreams/21798?fbclid=IwAR0rD3mHzKbfEhPzN3YoHZwcn3Lya5DnDTfbKFMzyksqvwMYTEow6DumAgM

El CabaIIo · 21-12-2018 9:50am

jamule wrote: »

Can Paddy go 2:16 and goto the L'mpics?

https://www.fastrunning.com/features/the-irish-runner-you-may-not-know-with-olympics-dreams/21798?fbclid=IwAR0rD3mHzKbfEhPzN3YoHZwcn3Lya5DnDTfbKFMzyksqvwMYTEow6DumAgM

Jesus, that's some progress for a guy who didn't start running that long ago. In reality, he's probably going to need a 2:14/2:15 to have a shot. I wonder what the rest of the lads are going to do with the World Championship on next year though(it will scratch any fast Autumn marathons for them) so the window to run fast will be smaller than it was for Rio)

Testosterscone · 21-12-2018 1:01pm

jamule wrote: »

Can Paddy go 2:16 and goto the L'mpics?

https://www.fastrunning.com/features/the-irish-runner-you-may-not-know-with-olympics-dreams/21798?fbclid=IwAR0rD3mHzKbfEhPzN3YoHZwcn3Lya5DnDTfbKFMzyksqvwMYTEow6DumAgM

While it is a great story should be worth nothing that prior to his “running seriously” he still clocked a 9.42 2 mile (9.00 3k) and with Tim Toffleson as a friend as well he has no doubt been getting good training guidance and his background in cross country shows that he has been doing a lot right for quite some time.

Great to see the addition of depth to Irish marathon running for sure but it’s a very big jump from 2.20 to 2.16 (not impossible)

To put it into context a bit David Flynn debuted on a slower course (DCM while not overly slow is not notoriously fast like the reputation of CIM) in 2.19 this year and not one mention of him in the mix for Olympics

Will be Interesting to see how he progresses.

OOnegative · 27-12-2018 9:03am

http://www.espn.com/espnw/feature/25566214/at-badwater-135-sometimes-bear-eats-you

Some Badwater insight.

Jakey Rolling · 01-01-2019 10:38pm

So, MCI are running a 24 hour event alongside their Back2Back marathons in Limerick on 2/3rd March.
While that's welcome news and close enough to home for me, 2 months notice is a bit short for me to be giving this one a go.

Any takers? Will probably be there for the B2B, but otherwise sticking to my training for Belfast 24 in June.

Cabaal · 03-01-2019 7:44pm

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

So, MCI are running a 24 hour event alongside their Back2Back marathons in Limerick on 2/3rd March.
While that's welcome news and close enough to home for me, 2 months notice is a bit short for me to be giving this one a go.

Any takers? Will probably be there for the B2B, but otherwise sticking to my training for Belfast 24 in June.

I'd ideally like to see them adding a 12hr event, would def have interest in it

Football Friend11 · 06-01-2019 5:13pm

Hi guys, probably a stupid question but I’ve signed up for the connemarathon ultra as my first and been following the training plan on the site for the last few weeks and all good so far, just this Saturday it says ‘Time Trial’, now I assume this is running as fast as I can but it doesn’t mention a distance or maybe I’m being silly and can’t see it. Can anyone offer some advice?. Thanks. Link to the plan below.

http://www.connemarathon.com/18-weeks/ultra.pdf

Enduro · 08-01-2019 7:03pm

Football Friend11 wrote: »

Hi guys, probably a stupid question but I’ve signed up for the connemarathon ultra as my first and been following the training plan on the site for the last few weeks and all good so far, just this Saturday it says ‘Time Trial’, now I assume this is running as fast as I can but it doesn’t mention a distance or maybe I’m being silly and can’t see it. Can anyone offer some advice?. Thanks. Link to the plan below.

http://www.connemarathon.com/18-weeks/ultra.pdf

It's a generic plan, so don't sweat it. Whatever you do won't be "wrong". If it were me, I'd do a Tempo run of some sort (Not 100% as fast as you can, but working hard over 20 - 40 minutes, or something like that).

Enduro · 08-01-2019 7:06pm

Anyway, the reason I was on this thread...

A funny little article on runner's world here. Personally speaking, the results sound like crap to me, but maybe the underlying trends do exist in general and I'm the oddball!

hillsiderunner · 08-01-2019 7:54pm

Enduro wrote: »

Anyway, the reason I was on this thread...

A funny little article on runner's world here. Personally speaking, the results sound like crap to me, but maybe the underlying trends do exist in general and I'm the oddball!

Good luck with the Spine! Am looking forward to watching the dots and the videos.

Enduro · 11-01-2019 12:25am

hillsiderunner wrote: »

Good luck with the Spine! Am looking forward to watching the dots and the videos.

Thanks!. Must try and do a preview.

Jakey Rolling · 16-01-2019 7:38am

Coming up to 72 hours in the Spine Race.
Live tracking http://live.thespinerace.com/

Enduro in a solid 3rd place about 20 miles behind the 2 leaders having taken a good few hours more sleep than them. He should arrive at Greenhead checkpoint in the next few mins.

Jasmine Paris is storming it, and with just 30 miles to the finish she should be well inside Enduro's course record of 95 hours. She has about 8km over Eugeni who is currently resting at the final major checkpoint in Bellingham.

Best of luck to all on the final leg.

Jakey Rolling · 16-01-2019 8:03am

Enduro straight through that checkpoint, must be determined to chase down 2nd place!

Itziger · 16-01-2019 8:25am

Enduro looked in a spot of bother there in a clip from a C.P. I saw earlier (think it was yesterday morning). Looked quite stiff/sore. Didn't realise they were nearing the end. I'd say he'd be happy with podium at this stage, no?

Some win for your one if she can hold on.

Itziger · 16-01-2019 8:28am

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Enduro straight through that checkpoint, must be determined to chase down 2nd place!

Just checked there. He's 20 miles behind the Catalan, man!! That would be the chase to end all chases.

Jakey Rolling · 16-01-2019 8:43am

Itziger wrote: »

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Enduro straight through that checkpoint, must be determined to chase down 2nd place!

Just checked there. He's 20 miles behind the Catalan, man!! That would be the chase to end all chases.

Catalan man is taking some much delayed sleep right now. Agree it is unlikely he will be caught, but it would be great if Enduro could put him under pressure. First 3 may all finish inside course record if conditions hold up.

Neady83 · 16-01-2019 11:07am

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Jasmine Paris is storming it, and with just 30 miles to the finish she should be well inside Enduro's course record of 95 hours. She has about 8km over Eugeni who is currently resting at the final major checkpoint in Bellingham.

Inspiring is a word that I think is bandied about too much but this lady is just that.

She's still breastfeeding so she's expressing while she's on the run. A woman has not won the spine outright since it was first staged in 2012 so it would be fantastic to see her get over the Cheviots and nail it.

If Enduro's course record is to be broken, I think that he'd be happy to see it broken by such an incredible athlete.

Check out her blog here.

Great to see Enduro get a well deserved podium too. The next 24 hours will make for interesting dot watching.

ReeReeG · 16-01-2019 1:34pm

Neady83 wrote:

She's still breastfeeding so she's expressing while she's on the run.

This is just incredible! Thanks for sharing the blog link, will be a good read later!

Jakey Rolling · 16-01-2019 2:03pm

To be fair, Enduro did predict a possible win and course record for Jasmin in his race preview!

https://eoinkeith.wordpress.com/

denis b · 16-01-2019 3:58pm

Follow the dots here. Watching it when I can on and off all day. Did not realise who Enduro was until now - face reddens. 18 miles and pretty steady between Eugeni (2nd) and Eoin (3rd).

Neady83 · 16-01-2019 4:29pm

Credit to James Thurlow for doing the sums on this one

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The difference between Enduros splits from his record setting run in 2016 and Jasmins splits from the race this year so far (though weather and therefore conditions underfoot play a part). She may well get in 11 hours ahead of the record.

TFBubendorfer · 16-01-2019 5:00pm

That's incredible performances from all of the top athletes, but if we have learned one thing from previous years is that funny things can and do happen right until the end in that race.

Enduro will put the pressure on and hope for a break, even if the gap looks insurmountable at the moment.

Jasmin looks unbelievable, though. Superhuman!

ariana` · 16-01-2019 5:36pm

Neady83 wrote: »

Inspiring is a word that I think is bandied about too much but this lady is just that.

She's still breastfeeding so she's expressing while she's on the run. A woman has not won the spine outright since it was first staged in 2012 so it would be fantastic to see her get over the Cheviots and nail it.

If Enduro's course record is to be broken, I think that he'd be happy to see it broken by such an incredible athlete.

Check out her blog here.

Great to see Enduro get a well deserved podium too. The next 24 hours will make for interesting dot watching.

Brilliant reading, thanks.

hillsiderunner · 16-01-2019 6:34pm

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

That's incredible performances from all of the top athletes, but if we have learned one thing from previous years is that funny things can and do happen right until the end in that race.

Enduro will put the pressure on and hope for a break, even if the gap looks insurmountable at the moment.

Jasmin looks unbelievable, though. Superhuman!

She has less than 6miles to go now, and Eugeni is 8miles behind her, barring an accident it is in the bag with a big course record. She's a superstar!

Barring an accident or disastrous nav errors (less likely these days with GPS devices), I also think Eugeni definitely has 2nd place. But it's an exceptional year, so I think Enduro might be content to take 3rd. He needs to keep an eye behind him too, as John Knapp in 4th has been going well.

Has been nice to see Enduro being a bit more sensible with sleep/rest this year, he has been more strategic than usual I think...
They just put up a little video of him leaving Bellingham CP just now, he seems in good spirits

Neady83 · 16-01-2019 6:53pm

hillsiderunner wrote: »

They just put up a little video of him leaving Bellingham CP just now, he seems in good spirits

Snap, he looks to be in great form heading onto the Cheviots and like the true gent that he is, he said that he's very very impressed by Jasmine smashing his record to pieces saying that "it's a phenomenal piece of running"

Itziger · 16-01-2019 7:20pm

Enduro's lead has shrunk though. He needs a good stretch now and hope that Knapp is shagged as well. Hopefully he hangs on for 3rd. Lads, to suggest anything else was on these last 24 hours is wishful thinking.

Slogger Jogger · 16-01-2019 8:22pm

She finished a short while ago there. 83.12.23. Smashing the previous record in the process and in great knick at the finish line. What an athlete.

Hang on in there Enduro.

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