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Smoking in cars?

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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Originally posted by kbannon
    Its my car and as already mentioned, they can get out and walk

    Anyway if they get in the car with me they obviously don't give a shiit about their own health! :D

    Right ok there's issue regardign ownership of car etc but its still wrong.
    But that argument could go on all day.

    Can we atleast agree on the fact that smoking in a car with kids is just pure evil!
    ?

    :)


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Can we atleast agree on the fact that smoking in a car with kids is just pure evil?
    Yes!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    Originally posted by RainyDay
    I'm not so sure. At best, you must remove at least one hand from the wheel for some period of time to do this.

    Do you mean like when you change gears?



    I'd like if people just admitted it has nothing to do with their health and everything to do with their disdain for the smell.

    There are some places where you don't make the rules, you accept them. A person's home and a person's car are two of those places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Silent Bob


    So the length of time to change gear is somehow the same length of time to get a cigarette, put it in your mouth, pick up the lighter, ignite the lighter, light the cigarette, extinguish the lighter, put the lighter back and then put your hand back on the wheel?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    There are some places where you don't make the rules, you accept them. A person's home and a person's car are two of those places.
    That's pretty much what I said, Lodgepole, i.e. "Having said that, I'd have no arguement with your right to smoke in your own car, assuming you don't have kids with you."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    Originally posted by RainyDay
    That's pretty much what I said, Lodgepole, i.e. "Having said that, I'd have no arguement with your right to smoke in your own car, assuming you don't have kids with you."

    Yeah sorry about that, the second part of my post wasn't in reponse to yours, it was a general statement...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    Originally posted by Silent Bob
    So the length of time to change gear is somehow the same length of time to get a cigarette, put it in your mouth, pick up the lighter, ignite the lighter, light the cigarette, extinguish the lighter, put the lighter back and then put your hand back on the wheel?

    If the cigarettes and lighter have been placed in a handy position, then yes. It's not like it takes a long time to light a cigarette.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    So the length of time to change gear is somehow the same length of time to get a cigarette, put it in your mouth, pick up the lighter, ignite the lighter, light the cigarette, extinguish the lighter, put the lighter back and then put your hand back on the wheel?

    ...as long as it takes to scratch, eat sweets, drink bottled water, turn around to shush the kids in the back...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Silent Bob


    Originally posted by BuffyBot
    ...as long as it takes to scratch, eat sweets, drink bottled water, turn around to shush the kids in the back...
    touche! :)

    (Except for the kids part)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,446 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Because it's my car, I pay a lot of money for it, and I'll do what I please in it. I have an air freshener and always have the window slightly open so the stink is never too bad.

    Granted. So not only do you and your clothes stink, your ****ing car does too... Nice one!

    A big deal has been made about driving while on a mobile phone lately. I wonder how many accidents have been caused by some muppet tying to light a fag and all?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Jesus christ you whinging pack of muppets.


    If someone wants to smoke in THEIR car then they have that right. If you want to get into THEIR car then fine, just stop ****ing moaning.


    What if... actually nevermind, new topic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭ArphaRima


    Lets get this straight then. The thrust of the current argument has to do with smell.

    Almost no health arguments have come from this.

    Everybody here knows that the act of lighting a cigarette is not unsafe. The eyes-from-road factor would be at worst the same as looking at the speedo. Reaction time exactly the same as normal. Remember -the brakes are at your feet. One hand would be off the wheel for an average of twenty seconds i figure by my own reckoning. There is another agenda here.

    Operating the headlights, changing the volume on the radio, windscreen wipers, changing gear, lighting a cigarette. Dont talk sh*te. This conversation has nothing to do with safety.

    Being engrossed in a conversation, dialling a number, reading/typing a text message; not the same thing.
    somehow the same length of time to get a cigarette, put it in your mouth, pick up the lighter, ignite the lighter, light the cigarette, extinguish the lighter, put the lighter back and then put your hand back on the wheel?
    It would take the average person about six times longer to read that than it does a smoker to light a cigarette.
    Ok its addictive we get the point, so while we're at it we'll allow people to use hard drugs before they start and journey otherwise they might starting wanting them while there driving and that could cause a accident.
    -Hard drugs are illegal. It is illegal to start using them, use them, and drive with them. Cigarettes are perfectly legal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭TacT


    Or as long as it takes the woman doing her makeup while the light is green.......... (saw one miss a green light last night at 23:00 because of this.. as in it went green, changed back to red and when my light went green she was still busy..)

    Manners and consideration. Some things some people don't excel at unfortunately

    My ole man can't stand smoke but I've managed to smoke while he's driving with the window wide open at the back (3 times during a 5hr journey!) and he doesn't catch a whiff, so I'm wondering, how can it be annoying because when done properly the other person/people in the car aren't even going to inhale anything and will just about catch a whiff of it!

    I see more people on their phones jiggling around with pens and notepads than I see distracted by a ciggy :p


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭TomTom


    Same thing here tact. On the way home from galway a week ago, my ma and da were in the front, i was in the back smokeing with the window open and they never even noticed. The funny thing was that my day was giving out about how they were so smell yet he did not even notice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭TacT


    touché

    Was thinking we could start a poll on why meat eaters insist on eating meat in front of vegetarians in their car too, whaddya reckon ;)

    Or how religious people insist on talking about religion in front of non-religious people in their car, the mind boggles

    The possibilities are endless :D

    poor monty :(


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    My car, I paid for it, I pay my tax, insurance, I pay for the petrol, so I'm going to smoke in it if I want to.

    I will not smoke in my car if there are children in it.

    Thankfully, I have realised what a hazard children are and will no longer carry them in my car.

    If someone cadging a free lift off me asks me not to smoke, I will not smoke.

    If someone cadging a free lift off me has asked me to take them somewhere that is out of my way, I will smoke.

    But when I smoke in my car, even if I am on my own, its windows open and fan on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Silent Bob


    Originally posted by fluffer
    It would take the average person about six times longer to read that than it does a smoker to light a cigarette.
    My point was merely that it takes your hands off the wheel longer to light a cigarette than change gear.

    Take it out of context and it's a meaningless statement.

    And yes, I hate the smell and taste of cigarette smoke (I also don't like the way it makes my eyes and throat feel).


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