Smoking in cars?

Cabaal

With all this talk of smoking in pubs etc
I was just thinking to myself, how many here that smoke actually smoke while in a car with non-smokers (even if you own the car).

Its VERY different to a pub situation and as a non-smoker its sickening to be in a car while someone is smoking.

One day many years ago I was in a car with my sister and she was smoking I had to get out of the car I just couldn't take it (I was sitting right beside her so it was more horrific then usual)

So do you smoke in a cars?

TomTom

I smoke fairly heavly but try to avoid doing so in a car.
But if i do i always leave the window down just an ince so the smoke gets sucked out.
You can always open a window if the smoke is too much and the driver is smoking.

Cabaal

Originally posted by TomTom
You can always open a window if the smoke is too much and the driver is smoking.

Its not the same ***, the smell is very sickening
Yeah most of the smoke gets sucked out but there's still enough to stink your clothes.

super_furry

There’s nothing worse than getting into a car that stinks of stale cigarettes – it’s horrible. I wonder how long it is before the Government try to make it a safety issue too, and ban it the same way they have mobile phones.

padraigmyers

Yeah, if I'm buying a car and I get in and I can smell smoke or there is a yellow stain
on the roof inside, this is the one thing that will really put me off buying it. I don't
think I would ever buy a car from someone who used to smoke in it.

Cabaal

Originally posted by super_furry
and ban it the same way they have mobile phones.

There banned???
Could have fooled me, saw 3 people alone using them on the way to work.
Gardi need to inforce this big time!

Originally posted by padraigmyers
think I would ever buy a car from someone who used to smoke in it.

Well unless they clean it REALLY well before they sell it

Victor

How about an option for people who don't smoke?

Cabaal

Originally posted by Victor
How about an option for people who don't smoke?

Yeah I thought of that after I posted it, but it won't allow me to edit it.
Gona need a mod to edit it.

Mossy Monk

in a car with all smokers - yes
in a car with non smokers - depends on the length of the journey but i tend to no smoke

Kone

The government of Sinapore banned smoking in cars but then got rid of the law beacuse they police could not enforce it.

DriftingRain

I don't smoke. My parents always did, I used to hate it! My eyes would burn and I'd always get a couging fit started! But...I know if it's your car you can do what ever in it! :rolleyes:

Memnoch

Luckily for me I tend only to climb into cars with ppl who i know will respect the fact that I can't stand the smoke. However the worst situation is with taxi drivers. I really hate getting into a taxi and its filled with smoke. As I'm allergic to it, by the end of the journey, my clothes stink, my skin is ichy all over and I'm in a generally very irritable mood. Often I've been tempted to get out once I realise what the car smells off and refuse to pay the fair, but I haven't done it so far :P

BuffyBot

I know if it's your car you can do what ever in it!

Exactly - if it was my car and I'm alone in it, it's my business.

If there is a non-smoker in the car, ask if they mind.

It's just consideration. Most people wouldn't smoke if they asked that question and received a negative answer

Cabaal

Originally posted by Memnoch
However the worst situation is with taxi drivers.

Ah to be honest there not supposed to smoke in there cars either is anyone else in a Taxi (thats why they have no smoking signs)

Despite this you can still smell it everytime in almost all taxi's around the waterford anyway
I'm sure its similair in other counties.

John2002

In my own car, I smoke regardless of who is with me. Apart from my mother because she starts putting on this cough and it's just easier not to. Unless it's a long journey, I wouldn't smoke when she's in the car with me.

jesus_thats_gre

****ing evil. Why do people have to smoke in cars at all? It leaves the dirtiest stink for a start.

byte

I smoke in the car with window down slightly to assist the removal of smoke. Though, if a passenger didnt smoke, I'd resist smoking unless it was a long journey.

John2002

Originally posted by jesus_thats_gre
****ing evil. Why do people have to smoke in cars at all? It leaves the dirtiest stink for a start.

Because it's my car, I pay a lot of money for it, and I'll do what I please in it. I have an air freshener and always have the window slightly open so the stink is never too bad.

RainyDay

There is a special corner in hell reserved for those parents who smoke in the front of their cars while the fan heater blows the smoke right back into their kids lungs. Jeez - they might as well just pinch their noses and blow the tar straight in.

Cabaal

Originally posted by RainyDay
There is a special corner in hell reserved for those parents who smoke in the front of their cars while the fan heater blows the smoke right back into their kids lungs. Jeez - they might as well just pinch their noses and blow the tar straight in.

Just like the special place for parents who smoke around there kids...

Borzoi

Originally posted by Cabaal
Its not the same ***, the smell is very sickening
Yeah most of the smoke gets sucked out but there's still enough to stink your clothes.

Well you can always get out of my car and walk. No I won't be slowing down.

And I don't smoke in the car - but get out you whinging maggot

(Curious point: In my home you're a guest and can pretty much do what you like and be treated nicely. In my car you do what I say or walk - your choice)

Big Chief

yes i would and will smoke in cars, unless someone in the car asks specifically for me not to.. (although if the driver says its ok and someone in the back asks me not to... im inclined to turn up the radio, smoke and say i never heard them )

also depends on how long the journey is as someone pointed out

John2002

Originally posted by Borzoi
Well you can always get out of my car and walk. No I won't be slowing down.

Proper order.

Cabaal

Originally posted by Borzoi
Well you can always get out of my car and walk. No I won't be slowing down.

So you don't give a shiit about anyone's health..
good for you man, good for you!

tribble

I wonder how long it is before the Government try to make it a safety issue too, and ban it the same way they have mobile phones.

Yeah - anyone there now for the bluetooth cigarettes?



tribble

Borzoi

Originally posted by Cabaal
So you don't give a shiit about anyone's health..
good for you man, good for you!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Peace

I don't smoke

And when i'm driving nobody smokes in my car. If you don't like it then don't get in.

For those people who smoke in cars then fine...indeed its your car and you can do what you want. But seriously....with all the health warnings i firstly find it amazing that you'd kill yourself slowly like that and secondl;y find it UNBELIEVABLE that you'd inflict it on someone else.

Don't you dixks have the ability to wait until you get where you're going?

ArphaRima

In my car. My rules.

A non-smoker in a car is in no way affected by the smoke that comes from my cigarettes. Window open, fan on, the only indication is the slight smell.

If someone asked me not to smoke, I'd consider their request; but if was some wanker who just doesnt want the smell they can go f*ck themselves. They are getting a free trip in a machine that costs a **** load to run. They are liable to be left on the side of the road. If too close to the destination, Ill drive further away and then kick them out.

Remember this is not a health issue. And people do have a choice. Stay in the car or get out. Simple.

And just because its fashionable to have an unreasonable intolerance of smoking, while at the same time politically incorrect to support the pastime, doesnt mean that smokers are going to roll over in their own property to the pc police. Smoking is ann addictive habit. It may not be possible for a smoker to not smoke. It is safer to allow a smoker to smoke in a car on a journey if they need it. Otherwise they will be thinking more about their next cigarette than the road in front of them.

"I wonder how long it is before the Government try to make it a safety issue too, and ban it the same way they have mobile phones."

-It is not a safety issue. Any smoker can put a cigarette to their mouth and light it without budging their eyes from the road, its a motor reflex.

Cabaal

Originally posted by fluffer
In my car. My rules.

A non-smoker in a car is in no way affected by the smoke that comes from my cigarettes. Window open, fan on, the only indication is the slight smell.

A non-smoker is indeed affected, why do smokers always try to justify there stinking habbit?

Smoke stinks everything! clothes, hair and seats.
Your a smoker so you don't notice the smell as much as a non-smoker does.
I should know two people in my family smoke and we owned a bar for 75 years I know what smokers are like when it comes to people saying its bad etc.

Originally posted by fluffer
In my car. My rules.Remember this is not a health issue.

Otherwise they will be thinking more about their next cigarette than the road in front of them.

Ok its addictive we get the point, so while we're at it we'll allow people to use hard drugs before they start and journey otherwise they might starting wanting them while there driving and that could cause a accident.

Thats not a very good argument now is it!
Ok the example is not the best either, but thats NOT a good enough reason for allowing people to smoke in a car!

Originally posted by fluffer It is not a safety issue. Any smoker can put a cigarette to their mouth and light it without budging their eyes from the road, its a motor reflex.

Yes just like any fool can use a mobile while driving, oh wait, they have to get it out of there bag while driving.
they have to turn it on
they have to dial a number

sounds similar to
you have to get the fags out of your bag
you have to find a lighet/matches
you have to light it up

shouldn't you have both hands on the wheel while driving?

RainyDay

Hi Fluffer

A non-smoker in a car is in no way affected by the smoke that comes from my cigarettes. Window open, fan on, the only indication is the slight smell.

This is not true. Environmental Tobacco Smoke does impact others regardless of the ventilation. Check out either the summary or detailed HSA report on ETS if you want more details.

Having said that, I'd have no arguement with your right to smoke in your own car, assuming you don't have kids with you.

It is not a safety issue. Any smoker can put a cigarette to their mouth and light it without budging their eyes from the road, its a motor reflex.

I'm not so sure. At best, you must remove at least one hand from the wheel for some period of time to do this. Are you saying that if an emergency (e.g. child running out) occurs just at this instant, your reaction time won't be a second or two slower than if you had both hands on the wheel? That second or two could make the difference between life & death.

Seth Brundle

Originally posted by Cabaal
So you don't give a shiit about anyone's health..
good for you man, good for you!

Its my car and as already mentioned, they can get out and walk

Anyway if they get in the car with me they obviously don't give a shiit about their own health!

Cabaal

Originally posted by kbannon
Its my car and as already mentioned, they can get out and walk

Anyway if they get in the car with me they obviously don't give a shiit about their own health!

Right ok there's issue regardign ownership of car etc but its still wrong.
But that argument could go on all day.

Can we atleast agree on the fact that smoking in a car with kids is just pure evil!
?

Seth Brundle

Can we atleast agree on the fact that smoking in a car with kids is just pure evil?

Yes!

lodgepole

Originally posted by RainyDay
I'm not so sure. At best, you must remove at least one hand from the wheel for some period of time to do this.

Do you mean like when you change gears?



I'd like if people just admitted it has nothing to do with their health and everything to do with their disdain for the smell.

There are some places where you don't make the rules, you accept them. A person's home and a person's car are two of those places.

Silent Bob

So the length of time to change gear is somehow the same length of time to get a cigarette, put it in your mouth, pick up the lighter, ignite the lighter, light the cigarette, extinguish the lighter, put the lighter back and then put your hand back on the wheel?

RainyDay

There are some places where you don't make the rules, you accept them. A person's home and a person's car are two of those places.

That's pretty much what I said, Lodgepole, i.e. "Having said that, I'd have no arguement with your right to smoke in your own car, assuming you don't have kids with you."

lodgepole

Originally posted by RainyDay
That's pretty much what I said, Lodgepole, i.e. "Having said that, I'd have no arguement with your right to smoke in your own car, assuming you don't have kids with you."

Yeah sorry about that, the second part of my post wasn't in reponse to yours, it was a general statement...

lodgepole

Originally posted by Silent Bob
So the length of time to change gear is somehow the same length of time to get a cigarette, put it in your mouth, pick up the lighter, ignite the lighter, light the cigarette, extinguish the lighter, put the lighter back and then put your hand back on the wheel?

If the cigarettes and lighter have been placed in a handy position, then yes. It's not like it takes a long time to light a cigarette.

BuffyBot

So the length of time to change gear is somehow the same length of time to get a cigarette, put it in your mouth, pick up the lighter, ignite the lighter, light the cigarette, extinguish the lighter, put the lighter back and then put your hand back on the wheel?

...as long as it takes to scratch, eat sweets, drink bottled water, turn around to shush the kids in the back...

Silent Bob

Originally posted by BuffyBot
...as long as it takes to scratch, eat sweets, drink bottled water, turn around to shush the kids in the back...

touche!

(Except for the kids part)

jesus_thats_gre

Because it's my car, I pay a lot of money for it, and I'll do what I please in it. I have an air freshener and always have the window slightly open so the stink is never too bad.

Granted. So not only do you and your clothes stink, your ****ing car does too... Nice one!

A big deal has been made about driving while on a mobile phone lately. I wonder how many accidents have been caused by some muppet tying to light a fag and all?

Dustaz

Jesus christ you whinging pack of muppets.


If someone wants to smoke in THEIR car then they have that right. If you want to get into THEIR car then fine, just stop ****ing moaning.


What if... actually nevermind, new topic.

ArphaRima

Lets get this straight then. The thrust of the current argument has to do with smell.

Almost no health arguments have come from this.

Everybody here knows that the act of lighting a cigarette is not unsafe. The eyes-from-road factor would be at worst the same as looking at the speedo. Reaction time exactly the same as normal. Remember -the brakes are at your feet. One hand would be off the wheel for an average of twenty seconds i figure by my own reckoning. There is another agenda here.

Operating the headlights, changing the volume on the radio, windscreen wipers, changing gear, lighting a cigarette. Dont talk sh*te. This conversation has nothing to do with safety.

Being engrossed in a conversation, dialling a number, reading/typing a text message; not the same thing.

somehow the same length of time to get a cigarette, put it in your mouth, pick up the lighter, ignite the lighter, light the cigarette, extinguish the lighter, put the lighter back and then put your hand back on the wheel?

It would take the average person about six times longer to read that than it does a smoker to light a cigarette.

Ok its addictive we get the point, so while we're at it we'll allow people to use hard drugs before they start and journey otherwise they might starting wanting them while there driving and that could cause a accident.

-Hard drugs are illegal. It is illegal to start using them, use them, and drive with them. Cigarettes are perfectly legal.

TacT

Or as long as it takes the woman doing her makeup while the light is green.......... (saw one miss a green light last night at 23:00 because of this.. as in it went green, changed back to red and when my light went green she was still busy..)

Manners and consideration. Some things some people don't excel at unfortunately

My ole man can't stand smoke but I've managed to smoke while he's driving with the window wide open at the back (3 times during a 5hr journey!) and he doesn't catch a whiff, so I'm wondering, how can it be annoying because when done properly the other person/people in the car aren't even going to inhale anything and will just about catch a whiff of it!

I see more people on their phones jiggling around with pens and notepads than I see distracted by a ciggy

TomTom

Same thing here tact. On the way home from galway a week ago, my ma and da were in the front, i was in the back smokeing with the window open and they never even noticed. The funny thing was that my day was giving out about how they were so smell yet he did not even notice.

Dustaz

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=113716

TacT

touché

Was thinking we could start a poll on why meat eaters insist on eating meat in front of vegetarians in their car too, whaddya reckon

Or how religious people insist on talking about religion in front of non-religious people in their car, the mind boggles

The possibilities are endless

poor monty

Silverfish

My car, I paid for it, I pay my tax, insurance, I pay for the petrol, so I'm going to smoke in it if I want to.

I will not smoke in my car if there are children in it.

Thankfully, I have realised what a hazard children are and will no longer carry them in my car.

If someone cadging a free lift off me asks me not to smoke, I will not smoke.

If someone cadging a free lift off me has asked me to take them somewhere that is out of my way, I will smoke.

But when I smoke in my car, even if I am on my own, its windows open and fan on.

Silent Bob

Originally posted by fluffer
It would take the average person about six times longer to read that than it does a smoker to light a cigarette.

My point was merely that it takes your hands off the wheel longer to light a cigarette than change gear.

Take it out of context and it's a meaningless statement.

And yes, I hate the smell and taste of cigarette smoke (I also don't like the way it makes my eyes and throat feel).