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What is the point of producing your licence in 10 days?

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  • #152
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,932 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    martingriff wrote: »
    So it's there fault not the person who built it okay. So how would you create a system which would bring back the exact data the garda would need


    Send me a PO and i will gladly write you a use case. what i proposed is exactly how the NHS in the UK do it. If you walk into a GP or hospital that is how they search for your details. Name and date of birth only. if that returns more than one match then they request additional details and refine the search.


  • #153
    redcup342
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭redcup342


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Send me a PO and i will gladly write you a use case. what i proposed is exactly how the NHS in the UK do it. If you walk into a GP or hospital that is how they search for your details. Name and date of birth only. if that returns more than one match then they request additional details and refine the search.

    No thanks, I prefer to have a card rather than some gobsh*te in a clinic able to wildcard search information.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44682369

    What happens if you have the same name and DOB as someone else ?

    You could end up with a mistaken identity, like the hospital thinks you are in to have your tonsils out or something


  • #154
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,362 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    galwaytt wrote: »
    Look: my local credit union can do that. When you open your account they take your pick. Every transaction it's up there on the tellers screen. But the multi-billion bailed out banks can't. Go figure.....m

    When you go in to your local credit union what do they ask for to see transaction. Is it name and DOB or your unique account number


  • #155
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,784 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    martingriff wrote: »
    When you go in to your local credit union what do they ask for to see transaction. Is it name and DOB or your unique account number

    well i volunteer my account number (as I know it), otherwise it would be name on the account. Before they transact, if the pic coming up on the screen doesn't match you, then no info will be passed.

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  • #156
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,362 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    galwaytt wrote: »
    well i volunteer my account number (as I know it), otherwise it would be name on the account. Before they transact, if the pic coming up on the screen doesn't match you, then no info will be passed.

    Must get my local one in on that


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  • #157
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    RobbieMD wrote: »
    What details on drivers licences are sent weekly and twice weekly? Are these uploaded to PULSE do you know?

    Despite being called the NVDF (National Vehicle and Driver File - note file in the singular) there are actually two separate files known as the NDF (National Driver File) which details driver and licence information, and the NVF (National Vehicle File) which details vehicle information such as ownership, registration details, tax class etc, basically everything held on a vehicle VLC. One problem however with the NDF data I believe is it does not establish if the licence is a full or permit.

    The NDF contains all details relating to drivers and their licences with the exception of Penalty Point data which is held in a file by the RSA independent of the NVDF or the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport.

    The files are sent weekly (NDF) and twice weekly (NVF) to the Gardaí via the Government virtual private network and held on a Garda database which is a standalone database to Pulse. The NVF is then integrated with the Pulse database and searchable directly through Pulse similar to the AFIS and CS database setups. The DLIP Pulse database which is used for driving licence production returns limited results and despite being integrated into the NVDF files does not return results from the NVDF.


    RobbieMD wrote: »
    I only quoted PULSE as you mentioned it in your previous posts. I’m aware there are about 70 handheld devices issued in certain sections that carry more information that PULSE does, but what other manner is available to access the files?

    The new handheld devices and the App trialled opened up full easier access to all NVDF information and will be rolled out nationwide in due course, not entirely sure of the proper method used to access NVDF using the Pulse system as the Catalogue screen does not offer this, but there is another way around it apparently.

    It is also worth noting that details of licences which are suspended are not held on the NVDF.


  • #158
    RobbieMD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭RobbieMD


    GM228 wrote: »
    Despite being called the NVDF (National Vehicle and Driver File - note file in the singular) there are actually two separate files known as the NDF (National Driver File) which details driver and licence information, and the NVF (National Vehicle File) which details vehicle information such as ownership, registration details, tax class etc, basically everything held on a vehicle VLC. One problem however with the NDF data I believe is it does not establish if the licence is a full or permit.

    The NDF contains all details relating to drivers and their licences with the exception of Penalty Point data which is held in a file by the RSA independent of the NVDF or the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport.

    The files are sent weekly (NDF) and twice weekly (NVF) to the Gardaí via the Government virtual private network and held on a Garda database which is a standalone database to Pulse. The NVF is then integrated with the Pulse database and searchable directly through Pulse similar to the AFIS and CS database setups. The DLIP Pulse database which is used for driving licence production returns limited results and despite being integrated into the NVDF files does not return results from the NVDF.





    The new handheld devices and the App trialled opened up full easier access to all NVDF information and will be rolled out nationwide in due course, not entirely sure of the proper method used to access NVDF using the Pulse system as the Catalogue screen does not offer this, but there is another way around it apparently.

    It is also worth noting that details of licences which are suspended are not held on the NVDF.

    Thanks for the detailed reply.


  • #159
    Under His Eye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    n!ghtmancometh wrote: »
    Guards are trialling this in Limerick, would imagine it would be rolled out to every guard if successful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNyKMywyS9k
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