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Direct provision hotel on fire again

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    ... the village of Rooskey on the Roscommon/Leitrim border.

    Refugees dodged a bullet with that one, better off sticking tough in Syria.

    Those locals might as well torch the rest of the place while they're at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Many of our ancestors emigrated and were mostly welcomed with open arms.

    Yet these fools are burning down accommodation meant for refugees seeking a better life.

    The irony is staggering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Many of our ancestors emigrated and were mostly welcomed with open arms.

    Yet these fools are burning down accommodation meant for refugees seeking a better life.

    The irony is staggering.
    I'm not condoning these arseholes committing arson but the fact that some people from the same island as me went other places has absolutely no bearing on what I should and shouldn't accept on this island now. It happens that I think we should give Syrians a dig out but not because of some historic tit for tat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    There has been a long running dispute over that hotel, by the sounds of it the direct provision contract may well have been a tactic by one side in that dispute and this fire has nothing to do with anti-refugee action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    Locals were not even consulted about what was going to happen in rooskey.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Many of our ancestors emigrated and were mostly welcomed with open arms.

    Yet these fools are burning down accommodation meant for refugees seeking a better life.

    The irony is staggering.
    And as night follows day, this argument comes up. Sadly it's dubious at best. The majority of our ancestors ended up in the New World - that was built on and needed immigration - and none of them had social safety nets. No social welfare, just charity. Many, if not most were not welcomed "with open arms". In the 19th in America, Australia and New Zealand the Irish were mistrusted at best, hated at worst and discriminated with it. In the UK, "No Dogs, Blacks or Irish" on ads for rented properties wasn't so long ago. 1970's not so long ago. So yeah, save this "argument" please.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 28 welltodo


    refugees from georgia, albania and whateveristan
    come on leo, giv us a fukin break like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,836 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    welltodo wrote: »
    refugees from georgia, albania and whateveristan
    come on leo, giv us a fukin break like

    Rrcruiting some more considering he was in Mali and Mozambique over the last few days too.


  • Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Locals were not even consulted about what was going to happen in rooskey.

    So?
    Why should locals be consulted about what a private person does with his private property?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 110 ✭✭MaryBrosnan


    bubblypop wrote: »
    So?
    Why should locals be consulted about what a private person does with his private property?

    Wow really? Not the brightest bulb in the chandelier I see.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    bubblypop wrote: »
    So?
    Why should locals be consulted about what a private person does with his private property?

    Yes. It's called the planning process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,031 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Wibbs wrote: »
    And as night follows day, this argument comes up. Sadly it's dubious at best. The majority of our ancestors ended up in the New World - that was built on and needed immigration - and none of them had social safety nets. No social welfare, just charity. Many, if not most were not welcomed "with open arms". In the 19th in America, Australia and New Zealand the Irish were mistrusted at best, hated at worst and discriminated with it. In the UK, "No Dogs, Blacks or Irish" on ads for rented properties wasn't so long ago. 1970's not so long ago. So yeah, save this "argument" please.

    Was going to say no Dogs no Blacks no Irish however beaten to it.

    Ireland needs a proper political system apart from the two and half party effort we have now. FF/FG and LAB. Their politics are roughly the same. The person on the street has no democratic option to express their views.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭utmbuilder


    SYRIANS dodged a bullet , imagen the poor ****ers being sent there. Highest scuicide rate in Ireland.

    Hopefully they will be placed in an area with more resources and brighter people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Locals were not even consulted about what was going to happen in rooskey.

    So?
    Why should locals be consulted about what a private person does with his private property?
    Manners. Respect for the locals born and bred there. To alert local doctors. To alert local dentists. To alert local shop keepers. Just basic manners pal.


  • Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wow really? Not the brightest bulb in the chandelier I see.

    I'm sorry, can you explain your insult please?


  • Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    riemann wrote: »
    Yes. It's called the planning process.

    So presumably planning was applied for?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭Dia1988


    Wow really? Not the brightest bulb in the chandelier I see.

    At least they were working Mary!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    locals should be informed about a change such as a direct provision establishment being opened in their area.
    fgs a business needs to apply for permission to change from one thing to another.
    these centres may be hotels but they are not being operated as an hotel when being run as a direct provision centre. two completely different things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    It's even easier now ,they can build a purpose-built refugee centre there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,283 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Many of our ancestors emigrated and were mostly welcomed with open arms.

    Yet these fools are burning down accommodation meant for refugees seeking a better life.

    The irony is staggering.

    Note that Irish emigration in the 19th century was legal.

    Most asylum-seekers are bogus, illegal immigrants.

    The 4,000 refugees that we have agreed to take, great, they are welcome, no problem.

    But the thousands of bogus AS are not welcome.

    There have been hundreds of sham marriages due to the thousands of illegal Asian men immigrating into Ireland.

    Look up Operation Vantage.


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  • Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Manners. Respect for the locals born and bred there. To alert local doctors. To alert local dentists. To alert local shop keepers. Just basic manners pal.

    Manners?
    Seriously, once the planning process is legal that's all that matters.
    The locals will know when it happens


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Manners. Respect for the locals born and bred there. To alert local doctors. To alert local dentists. To alert local shop keepers. Just basic manners pal.

    He's not your pal, buddy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 110 ✭✭MaryBrosnan


    Dia1988 wrote: »
    At least they were working Mary!

    I pay my taxes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭Dia1988


    I pay my taxes.

    Only on the things you buy with your dole money!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,083 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    riemann wrote: »
    Yes. It's called the planning process.

    The place has planning to be used as short term accommodation. That's what is being used for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Public consultancy is often a standard from private companies in relation to a major change in a small community.
    Many of our ancestors emigrated and were mostly welcomed with open arms.

    Yet these fools are burning down accommodation meant for refugees seeking a better life.

    The irony is staggering.
    But they didn't emigrate to the same countries that the asylum seekers are coming from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Get out the plasma cutter and order the insulation, have an "emergency" one put up in no time :



    ybXx9OG.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Get out the plasma cutter and order the insulation, have an "emergency" one put up in no time :



    ybXx9OG.jpg
    A giant Lego one would be cool.


  • Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Omackeral wrote: »
    He's not your pal, buddy.

    She!
    & no I'm not his pal!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    But they didn't emigrate to the same countries that the asylum seekers are coming from.

    Oh, sure fúck them so.


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