Direct provision hotel on fire again

Hoboo

Cordell wrote: »

Hoboo wrote: »

Do they own the town or something?

Collectively, yes, they do. People own the state, people are the state, not the other way around.

Collectively we all own it, I own it too, we all have a say not just the town. In a democracy with elected leaders, it is the government who make the decision on the states behalf. They can have an opinion, but they don't make the decisions.

I don't agree with the process, the lack of communication, or indeed the direct provision strategy of effectively dumping people into small close knit societies with little to no amenities, but it's not up to the town or residents to decide anything.

Allinall

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

This is a wake up call to the govt to seriously change tack with the open door policy. Call me cynical but Won’t hold my breath.

What open door policy would that be?

The non existent one?

Beechwoodspark

Allinall wrote: »

What open door policy would that be?

The non existent one?

Hahahaha.

Oh really?

I have some magic beans here you might be interested in buying. Bargain at 10 k a packet. How many will I put you down for?

Allinall

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Hahahaha.

Oh really?

I have some magic beans here you might be interested in buying. Bargain at 10 k a packet. How many will I put you down for?

Great argument there.

We don’t have an open door policy.

Captain Obvious

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

This is a wake up call to the govt to seriously change tack with the open door policy. Call me cynical but Won’t hold my breath.

Ireland denies 90% of asylum applications. Hardly an open door policy is it?

Berserker

ebbsy wrote: »

Trump was right all along.

Don't recalling him calling out blatant racism from locals. If I had to choose between living in a dump like Leitrim or Roscommon, surrounded by racist locals and talking my chances in Syria, I'd opt for the later. Can only imagine how bad things would be if Ireland had an open door policy on asylum seekers.

tretorn

It most certainly is up to the residents to have a major say in decisions about who lands in their town.

Why should the residents of Dublin 4 effectively get to decide what impacts on their area. Why wasnt the RTE site set aside for social housing with part of it earmarked for a halting site. No way were the politicans going to drive by a halting site on their way to RTE to be interviewed about how good diversity is for everyone. There is no reason why RTE cant move to the NAAS Road and hand over the RTE building to be converted into Direct Provision accommodation.

Imagine the squealing from RTE people about having to get into their expensive BMWS to commute to somewhere outside the city while the starving destitute Georgians, Afghans, Albanians, somalians, and Nigerians take up residence in Montrose.

I would love to see this happen but it wont because the rich and wealthy, the judges, the business owners, the property developers etc live in Dublin 4, their wives socialise and shop in Dublin 4, play golf and tennis and Dublin 4, their children go to private schools in Dublin 4. There is no way on earth they will accept social housing, travellers, refugees, drug clinics or any other type of people they dont want but they think diversity and integration is good for those rednecks in Donegal and Roscommon, these people to their mind live in such God awful places what difference would wannabe refugees make to the place.

Beechwoodspark

Allinall wrote: »

Great argument there.

We don’t have an open door policy.

Thanks for giving me a great laugh this grey January morning. Cheers !

Mr. CooL ICE

Mod: Thread has turned into a more general immigration thread than a thread on the actual incident. There is currently a thread running in Politics Cafe here. Please read the charter before posting.

Many of the posts discussing the actual incident were pretty much condoning it and frankly, fcuk leaving that in AH.