nvidia Shield - Tips & tricks [Read post #1]

54and56 · 04-01-2019 03:05PM

setanta1000 wrote: »

Cheers - thanks for the update, glad you got sorted and all working now.

Re running PMS on a NAS - I agree it's ok, and have used it successfully for the last 4/5 years running through a Roku 3 but Plex have recently upgraded their Roku App and mandate that the latest version (v2.x.x I think !)of PMS must be installed on the NAS - the Zyxel doesn't like any version of PMS past 1.01

I reckon the best thing you can do is re-label (in your head) your NAS as nothing more than a content library and invest in a Shield as the Shield will not only run PMS 24/7 without breaking sweat but it'll facilite Netflix, YouTube, Prime Video (if you're a Prime member), IPTV etc etc

Much better than buying a new NAS and trying to get it to run PMS on a standalone basis IMHO

The high horse brigade · 04-01-2019 03:12PM

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

I reckon the best thing you can do is re-label (in your head) your NAS as nothing more than a content library and invest in a Shield as the Shield will not only run PMS 24/7 without breaking sweat but it'll facilite Netflix, YouTube, Prime Video (if you're a Prime member), IPTV etc etc

Much better than buying a new NAS and trying to get it to run PMS on a standalone basis IMHO

Exactly this. Plex on the Shield has hardware transcoding using the very powerful 256 core Nvidia Tegra GPU. No pre built NAS will ever come close no matter what hardware it contains.

nedd · 04-01-2019 03:16PM

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

I reckon the best thing you can do is re-label (in your head) your NAS as nothing more than a content library and invest in a Shield as the Shield will not only run PMS 24/7 without breaking sweat but it'll facilite Netflix, YouTube, Prime Video (if you're a Prime member), IPTV etc etc

Much better than buying a new NAS and trying to get it to run PMS on a standalone basis IMHO

This is exactly what I did. I have a Zyxel 325 and it always struggled with PMS. I swapped over to Shield and no trouble.

Although, Plex + Subtitles is the absolute bane of my life. Not like I’m watching foreign cinema, but if the Avengers go to France I never get subtitles. Then I have to download English subs which hardly ever work, and don’t just show the foreign translation, show subtitles for entire thing.

Anyway, that turned into a bit of a rant, sorry!

The high horse brigade · 04-01-2019 03:51PM

nedd wrote: »

This is exactly what I did. I have a Zyxel 325 and it always struggled with PMS. I swapped over to Shield and no trouble.

Although, Plex + Subtitles is the absolute bane of my life. Not like I’m watching foreign cinema, but if the Avengers go to France I never get subtitles. Then I have to download English subs which hardly ever work, and don’t just show the foreign translation, show subtitles for entire thing.

Anyway, that turned into a bit of a rant, sorry!

Emby is miles ahead of Plex for subs (and a few other things like transcoding). With Plex it always transcodes if you want subs or change audio format, with Emby it always streams subs separate so it never causes it to transcode. With Emby you can also transcode audio without causing it to transcode video.

Emby also has a setting called smart subs which works very well, you only get subs if the sub is forced or the language is not your default language English

setanta1000 · 04-01-2019 04:08PM

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

I reckon the best thing you can do is re-label (in your head) your NAS as nothing more than a content library and invest in a Shield as the Shield will not only run PMS 24/7 without breaking sweat but it'll facilite Netflix, YouTube, Prime Video (if you're a Prime member), IPTV etc etc

Much better than buying a new NAS and trying to get it to run PMS on a standalone basis IMHO

Agree 100% - That's where I want to get to. I just need to dig behind the couch and hope some Christmas guests left enough for me to splash out on a Shield!

The high horse brigade wrote: »

Emby is miles ahead of Plex for subs (and a few other things like transcoding). With Plex it always transcodes if you want subs or change audio format, with Emby it always streams subs separate so it never causes it to transcode. With Emby you can also transcode audio without causing it to transcode video.

Emby also has a setting called smart subs which works very well, you only get subs if the sub is forced or the language is not your default language English

That is very interesting re transcoding - that is where I have the most difficulties with Plex at the moment.

Would you rate Emby ahead of Plex for anything else - what is the interface, speed, customisation ect like vs Plex (if you have use Plex)?

The high horse brigade · 04-01-2019 04:25PM

setanta1000 wrote: »

Would you rate Emby ahead of Plex for anything else - what is the interface, speed, customisation ect like vs Plex (if you have use Plex)?

I completely migrated from Plex to Emby about 4 months ago. I've 12 users, I made them all migrate too, they've not had any issues. I wouldn't have done that if I wasn't completely happy. The beauty is you can run both side by side with the same media libraries to try it out.

Plex and Emby at this stage are very much on a par for most things. Plex has a nicer UI. Emby is more customisable. Plex authenticates with the Plex website which goes down the odd time meaning you can't even play your own local content, Emby is more focused on local content with local login. Plex are busy adding features nobody wants, News, VR, podcasts, are not concentrating on fixing bugs and never post on their forums. Emby on the other hand are very active on their forums, directly answer questions and comment on the future roadmap.

Now note, I'm not running either server on a Shield. I have a remote Dedi and have my databases on a dedicated SSD and am running the betas for all the latest db speed optimisations.

QuadaLumpins · 04-01-2019 04:27PM

Can anyone recommend the best VPN for the Shield? I'd like to access BBC iPlayer and US Netflix.

Apologies for the noob question, but if I get a VPN for my Shield can I use this on my MacBook too?

EDIT I was looking at NORD VPN. Is this a good choice?

setanta1000 · 04-01-2019 04:43PM

The high horse brigade wrote: »

I completely migrated from Plex to Emby about 4 months ago. I've 12 users, I made them all migrate too, they've not had any issues. I wouldn't have done that if I wasn't completely happy. The beauty is you can run both side by side with the same media libraries to try it out.

Plex and Emby at this stage are very much on a par for most things. Plex has a nicer UI. Emby is more customisable. Plex authenticates with the Plex website which goes down the odd time meaning you can't even play your own local content, Emby is more focused on local content with local login. Plex are busy adding features nobody wants, News, VR, podcasts, are not concentrating on fixing bugs and never post on their forums. Emby on the other hand are very active on their forums, directly answer questions and comment on the future roadmap.

Now note, I'm not running either server on a Shield. I have a remote Dedi and have my databases on a dedicated SSD and am running the betas for all the latest db speed optimisations.

Cheers - that is very useful feedback - much appreciated!

Good shout re running both side by side - hadn't thought that through.
And I agree 100% re Plex development - there is very little that they have released in the last 12/18 months that I found useful.

The high horse brigade · 04-01-2019 04:57PM

setanta1000 wrote: »

Cheers - that is very useful feedback - much appreciated!

Good shout re running both side by side - hadn't thought that through.
And I agree 100% re Plex development - there is very little that they have released in the last 12/18 months that I found useful.

One thing to note. With Plex each user is licensed, with Emby the server is. With Plex a non Plex pass user just doesn't get the extra features. This means you pretty much need an Emby premiere licence for an Emby server and this license limits you to 15 premiere devices (Android and iOS apps, Emby theatre on Windows) over a rolling few day period. The web apps and Kodi are completely free though so they don't need premiere.

I therefore use Kodi as my Emby client on my Shield so I don't use up a device slot. I have Kodi setup with the Emby for Kodi add-on (adds Emby library to the Kodi database) and the Embuary skin. This means Kodi pulls down all the artwork and navigates the library very quickly with the images coming from local storage and is laid out exactly like the Emby app with the ability to further customise and add custom playlists.

dr.kenneth noisewater · 04-01-2019 05:03PM

QuadaLumpins wrote: »

Can anyone recommend the best VPN for the Shield? I'd like to access BBC iPlayer and US Netflix.

Apologies for the noob question, but if I get a VPN for my Shield can I use this on my MacBook too?

EDIT I was looking at NORD VPN. Is this a good choice?

Using VPN Unlimited myself and find it good, got a lifetime license for cheap last year

54and56 · 04-01-2019 05:13PM

The high horse brigade wrote: »

One thing to note. With Plex each user is licensed, with Emby the server is. With Plex a non Plex pass user just doesn't get the extra features.

I looked at buying a lifetime Plex Pass twice (during black friday etc) and just couldn't see what the practical benefit would be. What am I missing?

The high horse brigade wrote: »

I therefore use Kodi as my Emby client on my Shield so I don't use up a device slot. I have Kodi setup with the Emby for Kodi add-on (adds Emby library to the Kodi database) and the Embuary skin. This means Kodi pulls down all the artwork and navigates the library very quickly with the images coming from local storage and is laid out exactly like the Emby app with the ability to further customise and add custom playlists.

Whats the benefit of the Emby add on for Kodi over just pointing Kodi at your local NAS and using the native Kodi GUI to play all your content?

The high horse brigade · 04-01-2019 05:19PM

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

I looked at buying a lifetime Plex Pass twice (during black friday etc) and just couldn't see what the practical benefit would be. What am I missing?

https://www.plex.tv/plex-pass/
Plex Pass

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Whats the benefit of the Emby add on for Kodi over just pointing Kodi at your local NAS and using the native Kodi GUI to play all your content?

Central database shared to clients, pause on one client, resume on another. Sync watched status and progress between clients. Everything is managed by the server.

Kodi doesn't transcode to lower bitrates. I work away quite often and end up watching on crappy hotel WiFi or mobile.

54and56 · 04-01-2019 05:44PM

The high horse brigade wrote: »

I work away quite often and end up watching on crappy hotel WiFi or mobile.

I totally get that bit and I guess if syncing between clients is a useful feature for you then running Emby locally via Kodi makes sense.

Still don't see any benefits on the Plex Pass feature list that I'd pay for. PMS is already included FOC with the Shield and whilst mobile sync'ing might be nice on the fly if I'm travelling and will be offline I just download a ton of content from the NAS over the home WiFi whilst I'm packing.

Maybe I don't travel enough

The high horse brigade · 04-01-2019 05:52PM

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

I totally get that bit and I guess if syncing between clients is a useful feature for you then running Emby locally via Kodi makes sense.

Still don't see any benefits on the Plex Pass feature list that I'd pay for. PMS is already included FOC with the Shield and whilst mobile sync'ing might be nice on the fly if I'm travelling and will be offline I just download a ton of content from the NAS over the home WiFi whilst I'm packing.

Maybe I don't travel enough

Plex and Emby are more about sharing. I have 12 users in different parts of the world, 2 away at college, a sis in NY, a brother who also works away, a friend who lives rural with low bandwidth. It's a setup that adapts to bandwidth and resolution in any situation.

alanhiggyno1 · 04-01-2019 06:13PM

Hi guys regarding retrox I've already signed up few weeks but need to get Roms for it. Where is the best place or site to get them please. Also non Facebook user here thanks for helping

OffalyMedic · 04-01-2019 06:46PM

Only getting around to using GeForce now for first time today but for some reason I keep getting a network test fail with both 2.4Ghz and 5. Any ideas?

EDIT: Worked when I turned off vpn

54and56 · 04-01-2019 09:12PM

alanhiggyno1 wrote: »

Hi guys regarding retrox I've already signed up few weeks but need to get Roms for it. Where is the best place or site to get them please. Also non Facebook user here thanks for helping

Don't think sourcing ROM's is a permitted topic of discussion here but I am open to correction.

Now that you've mentioned it however (;)) I'm sure someone will PM you with some friendly advice. I'm not a gamer and felt the Retrox install video I watched to be more hassle than I prepared to put up with so I haven't installed it.....yet anyhow.

Also, YouTube could be your friend.

Guy:Incognito · 04-01-2019 11:48PM

Can the xbox one controller be turned off from the shield? Or is there a way to turn it off from the controller?
Got it paired now but turning it off when I'm done is another matter. It's not something that's come up before because it always turns off with the xbox

QuadaLumpins · 05-01-2019 12:57AM

Just wondering how people are getting the BBC iPlayer to work on the shield.

I have ExpressVPN set up and working and have downloaded the iPlayer app through antipodeTV but its not workin.

EDIT never mind ... this worked https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1059688/how-to-fool-bbcs-iplayer-to-see-shield-tv-as-a-different-device/

banie01 · 05-01-2019 04:09PM

banie01 wrote: »

No joy with this either.
The app loads fine, accepts the box details and downloads the Picon, Bouquets and EPG data (Same as in Kodi)
But when I try and open a stream it just gives me an error message "Video cannot be played" message with an error code of "MP state 6"

Settings on the E2 box for streaming are correct as are the config settings in both Kodi and Dream Player but in each case, no streaming.

I'm starting to think it may be an issue with the E2 image in use and will update when/if I get to the bottom of it.

Answering my own question here thanks to an old thread over on WOS for a similar issue.

Seems that I encountered a bug/issue with OpenVIX image whereby despite stream authentication being disabled in OpenWebIF, that it was enabled in the "Customize" menu.
So it is a matter of disabling the stream authentication in both menus (Or enabling in both and using credentials)
I hope this is of some use to anyone encountering similar issue

Issue only seems to happen on OpenVIX, tested OpenATV and OpenPLI with no issues.
But the Mrs is very found of the setup on OpenVix so it was important I get that working at least

The high horse brigade · 07-01-2019 12:14AM

New big factor gaming TV coming from Nvidia, with Shield built in

http://www.aftvnews.com/nvidias-first-65-inch-gaming-tv-with-a-built-in-shield-tv-will-be-released-next-month-for-4999/?fbclid=IwAR2r1PubBUjNMBHRD35fh2J1cUQIwn1BFLXZe0E2jQcsLi5ZnLOGhLgwErQ

banie01 · 08-01-2019 07:08PM

I have a lifetime sub for windscribe but unfortunately the UK players are getting quite good at detecting their servers.

So I'm on the look out for an alternative and Getflix seems to be the recommended go to?
I'm going to give their trial period a go but I'm just wondering if anyone has any other alternatives?

And, does anyone have any steer on any lifetime sub deals?

gerrybbadd · 08-01-2019 09:01PM

banie01 wrote: »

I have a lifetime sub for windscribe but unfortunately the UK players are getting quite good at detecting their servers.

So I'm on the look out for an alternative and Getflix seems to be the recommended go to?
I'm going to give their trial period a go but I'm just wondering if anyone has any other alternatives?

And, does anyone have any steer on any lifetime sub deals?

I signed up to Getflix's free trial, can't connect to anything over the shield. I've tried several of their DNS servers

corks finest · 08-01-2019 09:06PM

gerrybbadd wrote: »

banie01 wrote: »

I have a lifetime sub for windscribe but unfortunately the UK players are getting quite good at detecting their servers.

So I'm on the look out for an alternative and Getflix seems to be the recommended go to?
I'm going to give their trial period a go but I'm just wondering if anyone has any other alternatives?

And, does anyone have any steer on any lifetime sub deals?

I signed up to Getflix's free trial, can't connect to anything over the shield. I've tried several of their DNS servers

Glad someone else has problems ref getflix, thought I was Ireland's greatest luddite for months

savemejebus · 08-01-2019 09:14PM

gerrybbadd wrote: »

I signed up to Getflix's free trial, can't connect to anything over the shield. I've tried several of their DNS servers

Have you tried disabling ipv6 in the shield settings?

banie01 · 08-01-2019 09:23PM

gerrybbadd wrote: »

I signed up to Getflix's free trial, can't connect to anything over the shield. I've tried several of their DNS servers

I have set the DNS at my router and at the moment everything seems to work ok.
iPlayer, ITVplayer all working here.

The high horse brigade · 08-01-2019 09:33PM

banie01 wrote: »

I have set the DNS at my router and at the moment everything seems to work ok.
iPlayer, ITVplayer all working here.

That is a terrible idea. Do it on the media devices that need it, not on your router for security reasons. You don't want your private devices, smartphones using these as DNS, leave yourself wide open to man in the middle and phishing attacks. I wouldn't trust them.

banie01 · 08-01-2019 10:15PM

The high horse brigade wrote: »

That is a terrible idea. Do it on the media devices that need it, not on your router for security reasons. You don't want your private devices, smartphones using these as DNS, leave yourself wide open to man in the middle and phishing attacks. I wouldn't trust them.

It's on a separate VLAN

But your advice stands, anyone not sure of what/how/why of networking should ensure its set on a device level.

The high horse brigade · 08-01-2019 11:32PM

OmegaGene wrote: »

I have mine on the router as all devices in the house use the getflix service wether it’s iplayer or Netflix, never had any issues for the last 2 years with phishing etc

You are too trusting. Just because you haven't doesn't mean you never will. You're making it so easy to redirect you to a fake site and harvest your info. I see no reason to have Getflix DNS on a smartphone

Daz_ · 08-01-2019 11:51PM

Would anyone know if it’s possible and how to spoof / change MAC address on a non rooted shield ?
Thanks

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