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corner of hells · 05-01-2019 07:58PM

Robocop Corcoran wrote: »

Lucan is really turning into a kip these days, gang of 40 youths some carrying knives attacked a group of new year revellers at a bus stop. Then proceeded to smash up the bus.

Thankfully the bus turned up when it did or there would of been casualties. It seems no area is safe from this type of crap anymore.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/up-50-youths-launch-unprovoked-15617425

Isnt Lucan a big area now ?
I seem to remember reading an article a while ago suggesting it's population was reaching 50,000 and that it could be regarded as stretching from Clondalkin/Palmerstown to Adamstown reaching up to Leixlip and the edge of Clonee.
Saying it's a kip would the same as saying any area with that population is a kip .

mikemac2 · 05-01-2019 08:08PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Roadmen.

Using Eircodes as their sign -

Here's a crew from down the sticks, (I presume the face covering is so their mammys don't recognise and kill them :pac: )

Newbridge yuffs reckoning they live in South London

Just missing the knives and mopeds

Brian? · 05-01-2019 09:16PM

Robocop Corcoran wrote: »

The statistics id like to see are based on ethnicity, id just like.to see if a disproportionate number of a small African population are committing crime.

But you already said they’re commuting “lots of crime” without knowing this statistic. What’s your knowledge based on then?

Brian? · 05-01-2019 09:17PM

Odhinn wrote: »

No idea. Bus's refusing to service certain areas at night is something thats been happening on and off at least as far back as the early 80's.

Happened a few times a year when I was a kid in Tallaght. Windows being smashed on the 65B.

Brian? · 05-01-2019 09:21PM

DS86DS wrote: »

Excellent post. It will not be too long before Dublin and other Irish towns and cities will be witness to what has become endemic in cities like London and Los Angeles.

And anybody who dares call it out will be silenced with the old "racist" tag that Liberals love to throw around.

“Not too long”? How long? I’d like to place a wager on this outcome. I’m better on “never in a million years”. What’s your estimation.

Serious question: Why are you so scared when you live in one of the safest countries in the world that gets safer every year?

0cp71eyxkb94qf · 05-01-2019 09:39PM

listermint wrote: »

Ahhhhhh Dublin Live,

The most noteworthy website in Ireland.

Always has the facts and so much of them.

Its a joy to read...

The OP is a factual story though.

El_Bee · 06-01-2019 05:42PM

Brian? wrote: »

Serious question: Why are you so scared when you live in one of the safest countries in the world that gets safer every year?

I'd love to know what you're basing this on.

RWCNT · 06-01-2019 09:52PM

El_Bee wrote: »

I'd love to know what you're basing this on.

Probably the global peace index - https://countryeconomy.com/demography/global-peace-index/ireland

AllForIt wrote: »

I despise their lingo, fashion and music. They are a 'micro culture', one that evolved within a wider predominantly white one. There is nothing African about it. Noting wrong with African culture at all. Their culture is more akin to a gangster culture, than being related to any legitimate national one. Rap music does not originate from Africa. Their culture is artificial and not grounded in any heritage.

I was disgusted last year to read that the British Metropolitan police are going on training courses to be able to converse in the lingo of these micro black cultures in London. It is this mind-boggling stupid recognition of their micro culture that is enabling knife crime in London in the the first place imo. I lived near Brixton for years and I recall seeing young black men prancing around the streets with their pants half-way down their arse. The fist time I seen it some time ago I was just about to tap him on the shoulder and tell him his pants are falling down but that was a very naive though. Later I realized his whole fashion was a big 'fook you' to me and white ppl in general. Everything about their micro culture is a 'fook you' to everyone else.

They play the racism card very well, it's embarrassing we're falling for it. What's worse is we have certainly in the UK politicians who fight their corner often to get themselves elected in highly ethnic boroughs. Their micro-culture is sick, and not in their interpretation of the word.

A couple of queries:

1) How do you reckon recognition of the micro culture in the way that you described enables knife crime in London?

2) Why do you believe their fashion and microculture as a whole to be a big "Fook you" to yourself, white people and everyone else? What are you basing your ideas on? And 3) how does this apply when white or asian people adopt the same microculture?

Baggly · 06-01-2019 10:31PM

What exactly has become endemic in London and LA & other cities like that? You allude to something being endemic but you dont actually specify.

Dr_serious2 · 06-01-2019 10:40PM

Brian? wrote: »

“Not too long”? How long? I’d like to place a wager on this outcome. I’m better on “never in a million years”. What’s your estimation.

Serious question: Why are you so scared when you live in one of the safest countries in the world that gets safer every year?

Brian is taking a break from defending 11 year old boys dancing in girls clothes for men in a nightclub at 4am to tell people that they are wrong to be afraid of roaming gangs targeting people in the street.

We do live in quite a safe country, agreed. We would like to keep it that way.

Baggly · 06-01-2019 10:45PM

Dr_serious2 wrote:

We do live in quite a safe country, agreed. We would like to keep it that way.

The point being mooted is that Ireland is less safe than it has been in the past, which is contrary to the statistics provided.

Of course we all want to keep Ireland a safe place. The question now is why is anyone suggesting we aren't on track to do so, given the stats provided in this thread.

Bunny Colvin · 06-01-2019 10:55PM

Why are they speaking in English accents? I honestly don't get that. Pearse and Connolly would turn in their graves.

steddyeddy · 06-01-2019 11:04PM

There's extremely well established theories relating crime to ineqaulity.

E.g here:https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.economist.com/graphic-detail/2018/06/07/the-stark-relationship-between-income-inequality-and-crime#ampf=undefined

I'm not excusing this scummy behaviour, just explaing why it's increasing. Supply oppertunities to these areas and it will go a long way.

Baggly · 06-01-2019 11:07PM

steddyeddy wrote:

I'm not excusing this scummy behaviour, just explaing why it's increasing. Supply oppertunities to these areas and it will go a long way.

Is it increasing?

We are close to full employment and have almost free / affordable third level education. What opportunities are being denied?

Dr_serious2 · 06-01-2019 11:11PM

Pter wrote: »

The point being mooted is that Ireland is less safe than it has been in the past, which is contrary to the statistics provided.

Of course we all want to keep Ireland a safe place. The question now is why is anyone suggesting we aren't on track to do so, given the stats provided in this thread.

Number of homicides in ireland:

1951 7
1956 7
1961 13
1966 12
1971 14
1976 22
1981 35
1986 19
1991 31
1992 42
1993 28
1994 32
1995 53
1996 46
1997 53
1998 51
1999 46
2000 56
2001 58
2002 59
2003 51
2004 45
2005 65
2006 67
2007 84

steddyeddy · 06-01-2019 11:20PM

Pter wrote: »

Is it increasing?

We are close to full employment and have almost free / affordable third level education. What opportunities are being denied?

Education access is excellent in this country. I'm from an area that didn't traditionally send people to third level and got there in the end.

The problem now is housing. Renting and buying a house is becoming unrealistic for most people now.

jam_mac_jam · 06-01-2019 11:21PM

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

Pter wrote: »

The point being mooted is that Ireland is less safe than it has been in the past, which is contrary to the statistics provided.

Of course we all want to keep Ireland a safe place. The question now is why is anyone suggesting we aren't on track to do so, given the stats provided in this thread.

Number of homicides in ireland:

1951 7
1956 7
1961 13
1966 12
1971 14
1976 22
1981 35
1986 19
1991 31
1992 42
1993 28
1994 32
1995 53
1996 46
1997 53
1998 51
1999 46
2000 56
2001 58
2002 59
2003 51
2004 45
2005 65
2006 67
2007 84

Is there a point?

Dr_serious2 · 06-01-2019 11:21PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Is there a point?

If you cant see the point based on the conversation you must be very dim indeed.

Baggly · 06-01-2019 11:23PM

Why only look at homicides to determine if a country is safe?

Not to be insensitive to the families of those victims, but it's still one of the most infrequent crimes committed in the state. Added to that, I think you will find a huge number of those deaths can be attributed to both the troubles and to organised gang land crime.

Neither of which relates to the problem the op is describing.

It's a very sad/frustrating/appaling state of affairs the numbers have increased as we have become a more modern nation though.

Any ideas on the same stat for the last 12 years, so we can compare it against the world peace index for Ireland for the past decade?

jam_mac_jam · 06-01-2019 11:23PM

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Is there a point?

If you cant see the point based on the conversation you must be very dim indeed.

Yes obviously very dim. Great explanation.

Dr_serious2 · 06-01-2019 11:27PM

Pter wrote: »

Why only look at homicides to determine if a country is safe?

Not to be insensitive to the families of those victims, but it's still one of the most infrequent crimes committed in the state. Added to that, I think you will find a huge number of those deaths can be attributed to both the troubles and to organised gang land crime.

Neither of which relates to the problem the op is describing.

It's a very sad/frustrating/appaling state of affairs the numbers have increased as we have become a more modern nation though.

Any ideas on the same stat for the last 12 years, so we can compare it against the world peace index for Ireland for the past decade?

2016 - 91 murders
2017 - 71 murders

It probably isn't that high base on world wide norms but it still seems like a lot.

jam_mac_jam · 06-01-2019 11:28PM

The increase in murder is way before the increase in imigration.

Baggly · 06-01-2019 11:32PM

Dr_serious2 wrote:

It probably isn't that high base on world wide norms but it still seems like a lot.

It's very sad people's lives were taken and we would all want that number to be 0 I'd imagine.

To put it in perspective with other countries, the UK have a rate of 1.2 murders per 100k people. Europe has an average of 3 murders per 100k people's and Ireland has an average of .8 murders per 100k people.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

So I can't disagree it's not as low as it was in the 50s, 60s etc etc but it seems the world in general has a lot more murders than before, and that Ireland is part of that trend but also mitigating it.

AllForIt · 07-01-2019 01:03AM

RWCNT wrote: »

Probably the global peace index - https://countryeconomy.com/demography/global-peace-index/ireland

A couple of queries:

How do you reckon recognition of the micro culture in the way that you described enables knife crime in London?

Why do you believe their fashion and microculture as a whole to be a big "Fook you" to yourself, white people and everyone else? What are you basing your ideas on? And how does this apply when white or asian people adopt the same microculture?

I believe the rise in knife crime in London is a direct result of taking pressure of their ethically for fear of being called racist.

I believe that the reason the Pakistani rape gangs got away with it for so long is for exactly the same reason.

To answer your last last question I would just have to repeat myself and I won't do that.

Baggly · 07-01-2019 01:15AM

You didn't actually answer any of those questions though.

RWCNT · 07-01-2019 01:34AM

AllForIt wrote: »

I believe the rise in knife crime in London is a direct result of taking pressure of their ethically for fear of being called racist.

I believe that the reason the Pakistani rape gangs got away with it for so long is for exactly the same reason.

To answer your last last question I would just have to repeat myself and I won't do that.

I asked three questions, the second of which had a follow on question about what you're basing your conclusions on. I've even edited my original post and numbered them for you.

You've just about answered my first question. Nowhere in your contributions to this thread have you touched on the other two, so you wouldn't be repeating yourself. Go ahead, I'm genuinely interested.

I'll extend these queries to anyone who thanked the post as well, as you presumably agree with it.

Sonic Youth · 07-01-2019 02:19AM

AllForIt wrote: »

I despise their lingo, fashion and music. They are a 'micro culture', one that evolved within a wider predominantly white one. There is nothing African about it. Noting wrong with African culture at all. Their culture is more akin to a gangster culture, than being related to any legitimate national one. Rap music does not originate from Africa. Their culture is artificial and not grounded in any heritage.

I was disgusted last year to read that the British Metropolitan police are going on training courses to be able to converse in the lingo of these micro black cultures in London. It is this mind-boggling stupid recognition of their micro culture that is enabling knife crime in London in the the first place imo. I lived near Brixton for years and I recall seeing young black men prancing around the streets with their pants half-way down their arse. The fist time I seen it some time ago I was just about to tap him on the shoulder and tell him his pants are falling down but that was a very naive though. Later I realized his whole fashion was a big 'fook you' to me and white ppl in general. Everything about their micro culture is a 'fook you' to everyone else.

Do you think they have any concept of the fact that without white people paying for their welfare they would literally starve to death?

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