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If your child is born this year they'll probably be alive in the 22nd century

  • 01-01-2019 11:15AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭


    A sobering thought for you this morning.

    Life expectancy by nation in 2018

    1. Monaco 89.37
    2. Japan 85.52
    3. Singapore 85.47
    4. Macau 84.57
    5. San Marino 83.39
    6. Andorra 82.91
    7. Guernsey 82.68
    8. Hong Kong 82.59
    9. Australia 82.38
    10. Italy 82.35
    11. Canada 82.02
    12. Channel Islands 82.02
    13. Liechtenstein 82.01
    14. France 81.86
    15. Spain 81.83
    16. Sweden 81.76
    17. Switzerland 81.75
    18. Israel 81.66
    19. Iceland 81.61
    20. Anguilla 81.59
    21. Netherlands 81.52
    22. Bermuda 81.45 2018
    23. Cayman Islands 81.43
    24. Isle of Man 81.39
    25. New Zealand 81.35
    26. Norway 81.01
    27. Ireland 81.01


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Pretty much proves that your health is your wealth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    the above list, and specifically it's ranking, would seem to suggest that the old saying "money can't buy you health" it total bolix at a country level....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    begbysback wrote: »
    Pretty much proves that your health is your wealth

    Or the opposite, your wealth is your health :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    Or the opposite, your wealth is your health :D

    1st Jan - I get a pass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Going by that one hit wonder cum prophet of doom, Bob Geldof, we’ll be all gone by 2030.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/bob-geldof-the-world-could-end-by-2030-8864186.html%3famp


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,543 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Next stop Guernsey

    I'll leave Monaco until I'm into my 80s

    See yis!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    There's still people alive today who were born in the earlier part of the last century so that data isn't all that impressive especially when the next century is little more than 80 years away from now which isn't an unusual age to live up to at all in fact it's become quite the norm tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,997 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    Looks like I'll be here until 2075!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    It was about 72 when I was a young fella.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Just want to see 2020

    That was the real future year as a kid in the 80's


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Robocop Corcoran


    Heavy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Mutant z wrote: »
    There's still people alive today who were born in the earlier part of the last century so that data isn't all that impressive especially when the next century is little more than 80 years away from now which isn't an unusual age to live up to at all in fact it's become quite the norm tbh.

    Well if we disregard the facts it's "quite the norm"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,455 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Millions now living will never die.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Mutant z wrote: »
    There's still people alive today who were born in the earlier part of the last century so that data isn't all that impressive especially when the next century is little more than 80 years away from now which isn't an unusual age to live up to at all in fact it's become quite the norm tbh.

    That’s the point of the table. In fact if true the average child born today will live to the 22nd century. Not some.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    That said I don’t think you can really work out the life expectancy at birth in the actual birth year. Lots can go wrong. Or right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Likely much longer than that too, health care will have improved unrecognisably by the time children born today are elderly, those nation averages are also brought down by male death rate. A woman with a healthy lifestyle today will easily make it to her 90's

    Imagine healthcare in 2100 compared to today


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    kneemos wrote: »
    It was about 72 when I was a young fella.

    You were a young fella in 1972? Had you pegged at a little older ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Likely much longer than that too, health care will have improved unrecognisably by the time children born today are elderly, those nation averages are also brought down by male death rate. A woman with a healthy lifestyle today will easily make it to her 90's

    Imagine healthcare in 2100 compared to today
    Assuming everyone can access or afford the advances in health care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,965 ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I can envisage most babies born today meking it into the 22nd century, and quite a few making it to 2120 given the advances in healthcare.

    I'd be doing well if I live to see the 2060s.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Can anybody explain how they work this out?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    By the end of this century a person's personality will be downloadable to enjoy post death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Can anybody explain how they work this out?

    Average life expectancy now plus 81 years!

    Then again looking into the future is rarely accurate

    Welcome to 2019

    2019-BLADE-RUNNER-810x445.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    By the end of this century a person's personality will be downloadable to enjoy post death.

    They have zero personalities now never mind the end of the century, thanks to mobile phones and social media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,194 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Don't see the USA on the list, no great surprise there though considering they are literally eating themselves to death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Average life expectancy now plus 81 years!

    Then again looking into the future is rarely accurate

    Welcome to 2019

    2019-BLADE-RUNNER-810x445.jpg

    Average expectancy now (at birth) is what they come out with, it’s not an input.

    I once saw a report that said because life expectancy was increasing there were far more octogenarians than previously, this contrasted (the report continued) with the situation 80 years ago when these people were born when the average life expectancy was 60.

    Surely though since the people born 80 years ago were the very people contributing to the octogenarian boom, the then estimate of their life expectancy was too low. It was based on what people were living to then rather than what actually happened.

    I therefore assume the presumed life expectancy of the new borns is based on what people born eighty years ago are achieving now, with some modifications perhaps on known medical advances. Not future ones, which are unknownable.

    However although people tend to be optimistic about future medicine there’s the thorny problem of anti biotic resistance which might make these calculations moot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    By the end of this century a person's personality will be downloadable to enjoy post death.

    Or it won’t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Average expectancy now (at birth) is what they come out with, it’s not an input.

    I once saw a report that said because life expectancy was increasing there were far more octogenarians than previously, this contrasted (the report continued) with the situation 80 years ago when these people were born when the average life expectancy was 60.

    Surely though since the people born 80 years ago were the very people contributing to the octogenarian boom, the then estimate of their life expectancy was too low. It was based on what people were living to then rather than what actually happened.

    I therefore assume the presumed life expectancy of the new borns is based on what people born eighty years ago are achieving now, with some modifications perhaps on known medical advances. Not future ones, which are unknownable.

    However although people tend to be optimistic about future medicine there’s the thorny problem of anti biotic resistance which might make these calculations moot.


    Life expectancy at the moment is eighty plus years,based on deaths.
    Nothing more complex than that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    kneemos wrote: »
    Life expectancy at the moment is eighty plus years,based on deaths.
    Nothing more complex than that.

    If it’s based on present day deaths, then thats the life expectancy of people born 80 years ago, who were told then they had only a life expectancy of 60 years.

    So in reality new borns will probably live much longer than this figure, unless there’s a medical catastrophe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    If it’s based on present day deaths, then thats the life expectancy of people born 80 years ago, who were told then they had only a life expectancy of 60 years.

    So in reality new borns will probably live much longer than this figure, unless there’s a medical catastrophe.


    No it's the current life expectancy.

    Those born sixty years ago had a much lower average.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    kneemos wrote: »
    No it's the current life expectancy.

    You said it was the present average age of death.

    I know what it is. I’m asking how it is estimated.


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