If your child is born this year they'll probably be alive in the 22nd century

Harry Palmr · 01-01-2019 11:15AM #1

A sobering thought for you this morning.

Life expectancy by nation in 2018

1. Monaco 89.37
2. Japan 85.52
3. Singapore 85.47
4. Macau 84.57
5. San Marino 83.39
6. Andorra 82.91
7. Guernsey 82.68
8. Hong Kong 82.59
9. Australia 82.38
10. Italy 82.35
11. Canada 82.02
12. Channel Islands 82.02
13. Liechtenstein 82.01
14. France 81.86
15. Spain 81.83
16. Sweden 81.76
17. Switzerland 81.75
18. Israel 81.66
19. Iceland 81.61
20. Anguilla 81.59
21. Netherlands 81.52
22. Bermuda 81.45 2018
23. Cayman Islands 81.43
24. Isle of Man 81.39
25. New Zealand 81.35
26. Norway 81.01
27. Ireland 81.01

begbysback · 01-01-2019 11:18AM

Pretty much proves that your health is your wealth

irishgrover · 01-01-2019 11:18AM

the above list, and specifically it's ranking, would seem to suggest that the old saying "money can't buy you health" it total bolix at a country level....

Avatar MIA · 01-01-2019 11:27AM

begbysback wrote: »

Pretty much proves that your health is your wealth

Or the opposite, your wealth is your health

begbysback · 01-01-2019 11:31AM

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Or the opposite, your wealth is your health

1st Jan - I get a pass

Dakota Dan · 01-01-2019 11:57AM

Going by that one hit wonder cum prophet of doom, Bob Geldof, we’ll be all gone by 2030.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/bob-geldof-the-world-could-end-by-2030-8864186.html%3famp

Beasty · 01-01-2019 12:09PM

Next stop Guernsey

I'll leave Monaco until I'm into my 80s

See yis!

Mutant z · 01-01-2019 12:54PM

There's still people alive today who were born in the earlier part of the last century so that data isn't all that impressive especially when the next century is little more than 80 years away from now which isn't an unusual age to live up to at all in fact it's become quite the norm tbh.

its_steve116 · 01-01-2019 12:57PM

Looks like I'll be here until 2075!

kneemos · 01-01-2019 01:00PM

It was about 72 when I was a young fella.

SEPT 23 1989 · 01-01-2019 01:00PM

Just want to see 2020

That was the real future year as a kid in the 80's

Robocop Corcoran · 01-01-2019 01:01PM

Heavy

Harry Palmr · 01-01-2019 01:09PM

Mutant z wrote: »

There's still people alive today who were born in the earlier part of the last century so that data isn't all that impressive especially when the next century is little more than 80 years away from now which isn't an unusual age to live up to at all in fact it's become quite the norm tbh.

Well if we disregard the facts it's "quite the norm"

Birneybau · 01-01-2019 01:13PM

Millions now living will never die.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 01-01-2019 01:18PM

Mutant z wrote: »

There's still people alive today who were born in the earlier part of the last century so that data isn't all that impressive especially when the next century is little more than 80 years away from now which isn't an unusual age to live up to at all in fact it's become quite the norm tbh.

That’s the point of the table. In fact if true the average child born today will live to the 22nd century. Not some.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 01-01-2019 01:20PM

That said I don’t think you can really work out the life expectancy at birth in the actual birth year. Lots can go wrong. Or right.

wakka12 · 01-01-2019 01:38PM

Likely much longer than that too, health care will have improved unrecognisably by the time children born today are elderly, those nation averages are also brought down by male death rate. A woman with a healthy lifestyle today will easily make it to her 90's

Imagine healthcare in 2100 compared to today

Avatar MIA · 01-01-2019 03:01PM

kneemos wrote: »

It was about 72 when I was a young fella.

You were a young fella in 1972? Had you pegged at a little older

theoneeyedman · 01-01-2019 03:06PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Likely much longer than that too, health care will have improved unrecognisably by the time children born today are elderly, those nation averages are also brought down by male death rate. A woman with a healthy lifestyle today will easily make it to her 90's

Imagine healthcare in 2100 compared to today

Assuming everyone can access or afford the advances in health care.

JupiterKid · 01-01-2019 04:12PM

I can envisage most babies born today meking it into the 22nd century, and quite a few making it to 2120 given the advances in healthcare.

I'd be doing well if I live to see the 2060s.:pac:

Franz Von Peppercorn · 01-01-2019 04:17PM

Can anybody explain how they work this out?

ToddyDoody · 01-01-2019 04:21PM

By the end of this century a person's personality will be downloadable to enjoy post death.

Harry Palmr · 01-01-2019 04:23PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Can anybody explain how they work this out?

Average life expectancy now plus 81 years!

Then again looking into the future is rarely accurate

Welcome to 2019

Dakota Dan · 01-01-2019 04:29PM

ToddyDoody wrote: »

By the end of this century a person's personality will be downloadable to enjoy post death.

They have zero personalities now never mind the end of the century, thanks to mobile phones and social media.

Galwayguy35 · 01-01-2019 04:35PM

Don't see the USA on the list, no great surprise there though considering they are literally eating themselves to death.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 01-01-2019 04:37PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Average life expectancy now plus 81 years!

Then again looking into the future is rarely accurate

Welcome to 2019

Average expectancy now (at birth) is what they come out with, it’s not an input.

I once saw a report that said because life expectancy was increasing there were far more octogenarians than previously, this contrasted (the report continued) with the situation 80 years ago when these people were born when the average life expectancy was 60.

Surely though since the people born 80 years ago were the very people contributing to the octogenarian boom, the then estimate of their life expectancy was too low. It was based on what people were living to then rather than what actually happened.

I therefore assume the presumed life expectancy of the new borns is based on what people born eighty years ago are achieving now, with some modifications perhaps on known medical advances. Not future ones, which are unknownable.

However although people tend to be optimistic about future medicine there’s the thorny problem of anti biotic resistance which might make these calculations moot.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 01-01-2019 04:38PM

ToddyDoody wrote: »

By the end of this century a person's personality will be downloadable to enjoy post death.

Or it won’t.

kneemos · 01-01-2019 04:46PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Average expectancy now (at birth) is what they come out with, it’s not an input.

I once saw a report that said because life expectancy was increasing there were far more octogenarians than previously, this contrasted (the report continued) with the situation 80 years ago when these people were born when the average life expectancy was 60.

Surely though since the people born 80 years ago were the very people contributing to the octogenarian boom, the then estimate of their life expectancy was too low. It was based on what people were living to then rather than what actually happened.

I therefore assume the presumed life expectancy of the new borns is based on what people born eighty years ago are achieving now, with some modifications perhaps on known medical advances. Not future ones, which are unknownable.

However although people tend to be optimistic about future medicine there’s the thorny problem of anti biotic resistance which might make these calculations moot.

Life expectancy at the moment is eighty plus years,based on deaths.
Nothing more complex than that.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 01-01-2019 05:01PM

kneemos wrote: »

Life expectancy at the moment is eighty plus years,based on deaths.
Nothing more complex than that.

If it’s based on present day deaths, then thats the life expectancy of people born 80 years ago, who were told then they had only a life expectancy of 60 years.

So in reality new borns will probably live much longer than this figure, unless there’s a medical catastrophe.

kneemos · 01-01-2019 05:03PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

If it’s based on present day deaths, then thats the life expectancy of people born 80 years ago, who were told then they had only a life expectancy of 60 years.

So in reality new borns will probably live much longer than this figure, unless there’s a medical catastrophe.

No it's the current life expectancy.

Those born sixty years ago had a much lower average.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 01-01-2019 05:05PM

kneemos wrote: »

No it's the current life expectancy.

You said it was the present average age of death.

I know what it is. I’m asking how it is estimated.

If your child is born this year they'll probably be alive in the 22nd century

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