If your child is born this year they'll probably be alive in the 22nd century

Harry Palmr

A sobering thought for you this morning.

Life expectancy by nation in 2018

1. Monaco 89.37
2. Japan 85.52
3. Singapore 85.47
4. Macau 84.57
5. San Marino 83.39
6. Andorra 82.91
7. Guernsey 82.68
8. Hong Kong 82.59
9. Australia 82.38
10. Italy 82.35
11. Canada 82.02
12. Channel Islands 82.02
13. Liechtenstein 82.01
14. France 81.86
15. Spain 81.83
16. Sweden 81.76
17. Switzerland 81.75
18. Israel 81.66
19. Iceland 81.61
20. Anguilla 81.59
21. Netherlands 81.52
22. Bermuda 81.45 2018
23. Cayman Islands 81.43
24. Isle of Man 81.39
25. New Zealand 81.35
26. Norway 81.01
27. Ireland 81.01

begbysback

Pretty much proves that your health is your wealth

irishgrover

the above list, and specifically it's ranking, would seem to suggest that the old saying "money can't buy you health" it total bolix at a country level....

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begbysback wrote: »

Pretty much proves that your health is your wealth

Or the opposite, your wealth is your health

begbysback

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Or the opposite, your wealth is your health

1st Jan - I get a pass

Dakota Dan

Going by that one hit wonder cum prophet of doom, Bob Geldof, we’ll be all gone by 2030.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/bob-geldof-the-world-could-end-by-2030-8864186.html%3famp

Beasty

Next stop Guernsey

I'll leave Monaco until I'm into my 80s

See yis!

Mutant z

There's still people alive today who were born in the earlier part of the last century so that data isn't all that impressive especially when the next century is little more than 80 years away from now which isn't an unusual age to live up to at all in fact it's become quite the norm tbh.

its_steve116

Looks like I'll be here until 2075!

kneemos

It was about 72 when I was a young fella.

SEPT 23 1989

Just want to see 2020

That was the real future year as a kid in the 80's

Robocop Corcoran

Heavy

Harry Palmr

Mutant z wrote: »

There's still people alive today who were born in the earlier part of the last century so that data isn't all that impressive especially when the next century is little more than 80 years away from now which isn't an unusual age to live up to at all in fact it's become quite the norm tbh.

Well if we disregard the facts it's "quite the norm"

Birneybau

Millions now living will never die.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Mutant z wrote: »

There's still people alive today who were born in the earlier part of the last century so that data isn't all that impressive especially when the next century is little more than 80 years away from now which isn't an unusual age to live up to at all in fact it's become quite the norm tbh.

That’s the point of the table. In fact if true the average child born today will live to the 22nd century. Not some.

Franz Von Peppercorn

That said I don’t think you can really work out the life expectancy at birth in the actual birth year. Lots can go wrong. Or right.

wakka12

Likely much longer than that too, health care will have improved unrecognisably by the time children born today are elderly, those nation averages are also brought down by male death rate. A woman with a healthy lifestyle today will easily make it to her 90's

Imagine healthcare in 2100 compared to today

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kneemos wrote: »

It was about 72 when I was a young fella.

You were a young fella in 1972? Had you pegged at a little older

theoneeyedman

wakka12 wrote: »

Likely much longer than that too, health care will have improved unrecognisably by the time children born today are elderly, those nation averages are also brought down by male death rate. A woman with a healthy lifestyle today will easily make it to her 90's

Imagine healthcare in 2100 compared to today

Assuming everyone can access or afford the advances in health care.

JupiterKid

I can envisage most babies born today meking it into the 22nd century, and quite a few making it to 2120 given the advances in healthcare.

I'd be doing well if I live to see the 2060s.:pac:

Franz Von Peppercorn

Can anybody explain how they work this out?

ToddyDoody

By the end of this century a person's personality will be downloadable to enjoy post death.

Harry Palmr

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Can anybody explain how they work this out?

Average life expectancy now plus 81 years!

Then again looking into the future is rarely accurate

Welcome to 2019

Dakota Dan

ToddyDoody wrote: »

By the end of this century a person's personality will be downloadable to enjoy post death.

They have zero personalities now never mind the end of the century, thanks to mobile phones and social media.

Galwayguy35

Don't see the USA on the list, no great surprise there though considering they are literally eating themselves to death.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Average life expectancy now plus 81 years!

Then again looking into the future is rarely accurate

Welcome to 2019

Average expectancy now (at birth) is what they come out with, it’s not an input.

I once saw a report that said because life expectancy was increasing there were far more octogenarians than previously, this contrasted (the report continued) with the situation 80 years ago when these people were born when the average life expectancy was 60.

Surely though since the people born 80 years ago were the very people contributing to the octogenarian boom, the then estimate of their life expectancy was too low. It was based on what people were living to then rather than what actually happened.

I therefore assume the presumed life expectancy of the new borns is based on what people born eighty years ago are achieving now, with some modifications perhaps on known medical advances. Not future ones, which are unknownable.

However although people tend to be optimistic about future medicine there’s the thorny problem of anti biotic resistance which might make these calculations moot.

Franz Von Peppercorn

ToddyDoody wrote: »

By the end of this century a person's personality will be downloadable to enjoy post death.

Or it won’t.

kneemos

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Average expectancy now (at birth) is what they come out with, it’s not an input.

I once saw a report that said because life expectancy was increasing there were far more octogenarians than previously, this contrasted (the report continued) with the situation 80 years ago when these people were born when the average life expectancy was 60.

Surely though since the people born 80 years ago were the very people contributing to the octogenarian boom, the then estimate of their life expectancy was too low. It was based on what people were living to then rather than what actually happened.

I therefore assume the presumed life expectancy of the new borns is based on what people born eighty years ago are achieving now, with some modifications perhaps on known medical advances. Not future ones, which are unknownable.

However although people tend to be optimistic about future medicine there’s the thorny problem of anti biotic resistance which might make these calculations moot.

Life expectancy at the moment is eighty plus years,based on deaths.
Nothing more complex than that.

Franz Von Peppercorn

kneemos wrote: »

Life expectancy at the moment is eighty plus years,based on deaths.
Nothing more complex than that.

If it’s based on present day deaths, then thats the life expectancy of people born 80 years ago, who were told then they had only a life expectancy of 60 years.

So in reality new borns will probably live much longer than this figure, unless there’s a medical catastrophe.

kneemos

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

If it’s based on present day deaths, then thats the life expectancy of people born 80 years ago, who were told then they had only a life expectancy of 60 years.

So in reality new borns will probably live much longer than this figure, unless there’s a medical catastrophe.

No it's the current life expectancy.

Those born sixty years ago had a much lower average.

Franz Von Peppercorn

kneemos wrote: »

No it's the current life expectancy.

You said it was the present average age of death.

I know what it is. I’m asking how it is estimated.

kneemos

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

You said it was the present average age of death.

I know what it is. I’m asking how it is estimated.

Add up the age people die and get the average?

Charles Babbage

This is only true if you were born in the 26 counties, people in the occupied counties do not live as long.
Mind you, there won't be an occupied counties long before 2100.

Franz Von Peppercorn

kneemos wrote: »

Add up the age people die and get the average?

Ok. That’s then the average life expectancy of old people now. The point is that’s always been an underestimate of future trends in the last hundred years or so for new births. Off by a decade or two in some cases. Baring a medical catastrophe I think these newborns will on average live to 90 or 100 plus.

Mutant z

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

That’s the point of the table. In fact if true the average child born today will live to the 22nd century. Not some.

Yes but i don't believe it's such a big deal when it's so common place if it was to the middle of the next century and beyond then it would really be something to talk about.

DaverageJoe

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Just want to see 2020

That was the real future year as a kid in the 80's

And it will be pretty close to the futuristic vision. Electric cars, virtual reality, voice controlled appliances, commercial spaceflight, nobody going to mass anymore...

Birneybau

Beauty Has AIDS wrote: »

1997 was 35 years ago

Banned for crimes against maths

Franz Von Peppercorn

DaverageJoe wrote: »

And it will be pretty close to the futuristic vision. Electric cars, virtual reality, voice controlled appliances, commercial spaceflight, nobody going to mass anymore...

?

2020 will probably be a Massive disappointment for me.

Badly Drunk Boy

Harry Palmr wrote: »

A sobering thought for you this morning.

Life expectancy by nation in 2018

1. Monaco 89.37
2. Japan 85.52
3. Singapore 85.47
4. Macau 84.57
5. San Marino 83.39
6. Andorra 82.91
7. Guernsey 82.68
8. Hong Kong 82.59
9. Australia 82.38
10. Italy 82.35
11. Canada 82.02
12. Channel Islands 82.02
13. Liechtenstein 82.01
14. France 81.86
15. Spain 81.83
16. Sweden 81.76
17. Switzerland 81.75
18. Israel 81.66
19. Iceland 81.61
20. Anguilla 81.59
21. Netherlands 81.52
22. Bermuda 81.45 2018
23. Cayman Islands 81.43
24. Isle of Man 81.39
25. New Zealand 81.35
26. Norway 81.01
27. Ireland 81.01

What's the deal with the classification of these places? Some of them aren't even countries. My real question is...what's the life expectancy of the good folk of Leitrim, and why isn't it included?

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Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

What's the deal with the classification of these places? Some of them aren't even countries. My real question is...what's the life expectancy of the good folk of Leitrim, and why isn't it included?

Why would they include Leitrim? They didn't include Narnia, Mordor, Lilliput or other made up places.

Jim 77

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Why would they include Leitrim? They didn't include Narnia, Mordor, Lilliput or other made up places.

Or perhaps Leitrim is Tír na nÓg and life expectancy is infinity.

daheff

Birneybau wrote: »

Millions now living will never die.

Still holding out for the undead Zombie plague, huh?

Avatar MIA

Jim 77 wrote: »

Or perhaps Leitrim is Tír na nÓg and life expectancy is infinity.

Infinity in Leitrim, dear god what did these poor people do to warrant that!?!

BattleCorp

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Baring a medical catastrophe I think these newborns will on average live to 90 or 100 plus.

Very high possibility of a medical catastrophe or two.

Antibiotic resistant bacteria has the potential to cause widespread devastation. And a flu pandemic such as if the H5N1 bird flu virus which currently kills 60% of those who catch it. What is saving most of us is the fact that it doesn't easily jump from human to human (at the moment). If it evolves to enable it to do this, then expect a lot of people to die.

Anyway, Happy New Year.