Fodder Crisis

whelan2 · 29-12-2018 08:51PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Got offered bales from 2 different locals here in the last 24hrs. Market must be softening.

What price?

Muckit · 29-12-2018 09:29PM

Grueller wrote: »

Heard one of the met eireann lads on the radio today. The likelihood from the weather charts is a hard cold January.

Thanks be to God! 11C here today, T shirt weather. Midges flying about. Unnatural. We had no frost this backend. Bring it on.

Birdnuts · 29-12-2018 10:10PM

Muckit wrote: »

Thanks be to God! 11C here today, T shirt weather. Midges flying about. Unnatural. We had no frost this backend. Bring it on.

I'd been of the same opinion - best to get the hard stuff out of the way this time of year and leave the way clear for a nice benign late spring and summer(fingers crossed!!)

Timmaay · 29-12-2018 11:04PM

whelan2 wrote: »

What price?

25 to 35. Got 100 bales of reasonable haylage that the cows aren't too keen on, and pulling alot in under them, temping to flog that and replace with silage.

Water John · 29-12-2018 11:16PM

You could try telling them not to be fecking fussy or they may end up on a farm where they won't be looked after so well.

High bike · 29-12-2018 11:25PM

Birdnuts wrote: »

I'd been of the same opinion - best to get the hard stuff out of the way this time of year and leave the way clear for a nice benign late spring and summer(fingers crossed!!)

thats for sure don’t want snow end of March again this year

Dinzee Conlee · 29-12-2018 11:26PM

High bike wrote: »

thats for sure don’t want snow end of March again this year

Jesus, could do without seeing snow like that for another 20 years...

Dakota Dan · 29-12-2018 11:33PM

Grueller wrote: »

Heard one of the met eireann lads on the radio today. The likelihood from the weather charts is a hard cold January. Watch that soft wet grass melt if that happens.

Which met Eireann lad was that? You do know that 4 days ahead is the max for an accurate forecast?

Dakota Dan · 29-12-2018 11:40PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Jesus, could do without seeing snow like that for another 20 years...

Do you honestly believe him? A forecast over 3 months in advance, if he can pull that off he'd be a millionaire, but alas he is only a bullsh!tter

_Brian · 29-12-2018 11:40PM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Which met Eireann lad was that? You do know that 4 days ahead is the max for an accurate forecast?

Yes but what they are seeing in the upper atmosphere NOW is very similar to twist preceded the Beast from the east. The temp changes in the upper atmosphere take two weeks to affect ground conditions so there is the potential building for a very cold snap.
Plus, January is our real winter weather month, a half dead fool would be fairly sure saying we’re going to get a cold wintery snap on January.

Odelay · 29-12-2018 11:42PM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Which met Eireann lad was that? You do know that 4 days ahead is the max for an accurate forecast?

It’s been blown out of proportion. The forecaster said there “could” be a snow event. Just the same as I “could” win the lotto.

Dakota Dan · 29-12-2018 11:43PM

_Brian wrote: »

Yes but what they are seeing in the upper atmosphere NOW is very similar to twist preceded the Beast from the east. The temp changes in the upper atmosphere take two weeks to affect ground conditions so there is the potential building for a very cold snap.
Plus, January is our real winter weather month, a half dead fool would be fairly sure saying we’re going to get a cold wintery snap on January.

True, but still only pure crystal ball gazing. We'll just have to wait and see.

Dinzee Conlee · 29-12-2018 11:49PM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Do you honestly believe him? A forecast over 3 months in advance, if he can pull that off he'd be a millionaire, but alas he is only a bullsh!tter

It’s nothing to do with believing anyone...

I know myself I don’t want to see snow like we had for 20 years... or longer

Dakota Dan · 29-12-2018 11:54PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

It’s nothing to do with believing anyone...

I know myself I don’t want to see snow like we had for 20 years... or longer

If you were around in the 70's you'd really know what snow was like, that bit of snow last year was only a drop in the ocean compared to what we got back then. It only lasted a few days for Gods sake.

charolais0153 · 29-12-2018 11:56PM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

If you were around in the 70's you'd really know what snow was like, that bit of snow last year was only a drop in the ocean compared to what we got back then. It only lasted a few days for Gods sake.

Finally a man talking a bit of sense

Dinzee Conlee · 30-12-2018 12:19AM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

If you were around in the 70's you'd really know what snow was like, that bit of snow last year was only a drop in the ocean compared to what we got back then. It only lasted a few days for Gods sake.

Sure if you were around in 1947 was it, it was worse again...

Either way, I don’t care - I don’t want to see snow like we had last year for a long time... it’s a pain for work, a pain for the bit of farming I do, just a pain overall...

Truth be told, I don’t mind the rain...

Grueller · 30-12-2018 12:20AM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

If you were around in the 70's you'd really know what snow was like, that bit of snow last year was only a drop in the ocean compared to what we got back then. It only lasted a few days for Gods sake.

That depends on your part of the country. South east corner was pasted and had greater depths than the 70s and 82 which was our big one. The saving grace was that it only lasted 4 days til it was completely defrosted.

Odelay · 30-12-2018 12:22AM

Ye should have been around for the ice age lads. That was a bad winter, these ones we have now are fierce mild in comparison.

Gawddawggonnit · 30-12-2018 07:21AM

Odelay wrote: »

Ye should have been around for the ice age lads. That was a bad winter, these ones we have now are fierce mild in comparison.

I wouldn’t have put you for being that old.

20silkcut · 30-12-2018 08:34AM

Grueller wrote: »

That depends on your part of the country. South east corner was pasted and had greater depths than the 70s and 82 which was our big one. The saving grace was that it only lasted 4 days til it was completely defrosted.

Yes 2010 was nearly a full month of snow on the ground.

20silkcut · 30-12-2018 08:43AM

Grueller wrote: »

Heard one of the met eireann lads on the radio today. The likelihood from the weather charts is a hard cold January. Watch that soft wet grass melt if that happens.

I remember the spring of 2012 being so soft, coming after a short mild winter, with fodder so plentiful after huge crops in 2011, some weren’t going to bother make silage at all in 2012. We all know how that went after.
But maybe by law of averages we are due an early one this year, after all that is now 7 years ago. Grazing genuinely began in February that year. Then cattle were re-housed in June in a lot of places with endless rain. It is impossible to be ever confident of anything when it comes to weather. Not one expert predicted any of it.

greysides · 30-12-2018 11:13AM

Odelay wrote: »

Ye should have been around for the ice age lads. That was a bad winter, these ones we have now are fierce mild in comparison.

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

I wouldn’t have put you for being that old.

Like anagrams?

Old? Aye!

(Punctuation for effect.

emaherx · 30-12-2018 11:34AM

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews//ireland/bitterly-cold-january-ahead-met-eireann-say-894532.html

Can't believe someone is paid to write this nonsense.

In summary:

Ireland in for bitterly cold January.
"Potentially"
"But it's too soon to tell"

whelan2 · 30-12-2018 11:41AM

emaherx wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews//ireland/bitterly-cold-january-ahead-met-eireann-say-894532.html

Can't believe someone is paid to write this nonsense.

In summary:

Ireland in for bitterly cold January.
"Potentially"
"But it's too soon to tell"

The most accurate forecasts are those in the local Facebook pages. Louth weather here is always spot on. Will never go beyond 5to 7 days

Say my name · 30-12-2018 12:03PM

emaherx wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews//ireland/bitterly-cold-january-ahead-met-eireann-say-894532.html

Can't believe someone is paid to write this nonsense.

In summary:

Ireland in for bitterly cold January.
"Potentially"
"But it's too soon to tell"

That article has been called out for the lies and untruth in the weather forum for what it is.

Unfortunately people read these lies and then blame met eireann.

First off a sudden stratospheric warming has only just occurred yesterday/today. It's been forecast for long enough and got people's attention from what resulted earlier this year after a warming.

The examiner uses met eireann's name to claim that the ssw has occurred already - LIE.
That this SSW has brought about our mild weather again LIE it has barely just occurred and the bias is for cold from the east rather than blocking high pressure that we are currently experiencing from a SSW but not always either. It takes weeks for the effects from a Sudden Stratospheric Warming to percolate down.

Met Eireann should sue the ass off the Examiner.
Clickbait selling at it's ugliest.

Mooooo · 30-12-2018 12:21PM

Tbh I'm happy I haven't calved this autumn the mild damp weather would be tough on calves. Wouldn't mind a cold spell in Feb, easier on housed animals. Of course by cold single digits would do, not two fond of when the minus figures appear to keep heading south

Keepgrowing · 30-12-2018 12:40PM

Was there a fodder crisis?
Is there a fodder crisis?

This spring it was that the fodder was available but not in the areas it was needed. Lots of alternative feeds available that are much better value than silage. I understand that forage is necessary but it doesn’t need to be 100%, 40% would be adequate.

I’d venture that what’s really happening is an income/cash crisis??

Never wrestle with pigs · 30-12-2018 01:01PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Was there a fodder crisis?
Is there a fodder crisis?

This spring it was that the fodder was available but not in the areas it was needed. Lots of alternative feeds available that are much better value than silage. I understand that forage is necessary but it doesn’t need to be 100%, 40% would be adequate.

I’d venture that what’s really happening is an income/cash crisis??

+100, income/cash is non existent after the last 12 months. If there is no let up/lift in price it will see allot of people pulling out all together.

cute geoge · 30-12-2018 01:14PM

yer memories are fairly short .not too long ago feed mills could not cope with orders and feed imports were getting scarcer by the day .I did not hear any farmers complain about price of bales or ration then .

greenfield21 · 30-12-2018 01:15PM

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

+100, income/cash is non existent after the last 12 months. If there is no let up/lift in price it will see allot of people pulling out all together.

Out of what? Dairy? All I see around here is spend spend spend.

Fodder Crisis

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