Fodder Crisis

Base price · 24-12-2018 09:05PM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Jaysus BP, could you drop down some of a load this way? But ourselves & a neighbour are looking for some.

Apologies for not getting back to you sooner but I'm flat out. PM sent.

alps · 25-12-2018 02:03PM

Only a week left of the rape and unfortunately most of these will have to come home, but it's been good while it lasted and temperatures may drop shortly so they may "survuve" being housed. Enjoying Christmas Lunch today..

lab man · 26-12-2018 02:46AM

Hay and silage here for sale clare

Sheep breeder · 26-12-2018 10:50AM

Good loser wrote: »

Was in germany mid Sept. Between Frankfurt and Trier.

Absolute drought was continuing.

Maize only 2 foot high. Could see bales left in grass fields - roughly 1 or 2 bales per acre it appeared.

In 70 miles saw 5/6 cattle in one paddock and 15 or so sheep in another.

Tough time on the continent. Have a good friend in Holland who gets his winter feed for sheep in from Germany every year and this year none available and had to get hay and straw from Poland at craze money.
We were in France in early August and in the last ten years of going to the same place never sent it as bad and two weeks ago our friend in France was email about how bad things are out there, they were still burnt up in October.

Keepgrowing · 26-12-2018 02:58PM

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Tough time on the continent. Have a good friend in Holland who gets his winter feed for sheep in from Germany every year and this year none available and had to get hay and straw from Poland at craze money.
We were in France in early August and in the last ten years of going to the same place never sent it as bad and two weeks ago our friend in France was email about how bad things are out there, they were still burnt up in October.

Our usual French correspondent who’s awol at the moment spent all spring and summer criticising our ag practices here resulting in our fodder issues. Seems it can happen in Northern Europe also. I wonder are they all overstocked and poor operators like us?

On another note I see silage dropping in price on DD

Reggie. · 26-12-2018 03:15PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Our usual French correspondent who’s awol at the moment spent all spring and summer criticising our ag practices here resulting in our fodder issues. Seems it can happen in Northern Europe also. I wonder are they all overstocked and poor operators like us?

On another note I see silage dropping in price on DD

Might not drop for long around here anyways

jaymla627 · 26-12-2018 04:43PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Might not drop for long around here anyways

Never seen cows motoring through 2nd silage as quick here, across weanlings/cows/heifers their eating on average 14kgs dm silage with meal going in on top of this, a harsh January and grass growth stalling our melting back their wouldn’t be a bale to be got of done-deal once the panic sets in

Reggie. · 26-12-2018 05:06PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Never seen cows motoring through 2nd silage as quick here, across weanlings/cows/heifers their eating on average 14kgs dm silage with meal going in on top of this, a harsh January and grass growth stalling our melting back their wouldn’t be a bale to be got of done-deal once the panic sets in

Hearing alot of reports of the same. Silage ain't lasting as long for whatever reason is causing it

eorna · 26-12-2018 05:57PM

25% less stock eating at same rate as last year... tearing through second cut bales..
Same size bales..
Can’t really figure that one out ...
Might slow down when we start first cut.. hope so anyways...

patsy_mccabe · 26-12-2018 06:11PM

I'm staring to use the odd first cut bale here now. Deffo a lot more feeding in it. Bloody blue mould starting to show in a few. Real sign that it is very dry.

tabby aspreme · 26-12-2018 06:21PM

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Has the price of hay and silage reduced much, since August, the only fodder I see moving is beet at 10-12 € more / tonne than last year

Since I posted this10 days ago I have seen a good few loads of silage and hay on the move locally here in kildare, also a few big loads of straw going north .

alangeorge · 26-12-2018 06:43PM

we got round bales of haylage here that thinking of selling, need to get rid as wanted the space but what is a realistic price at present for these please

Base price · 26-12-2018 07:28PM

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Since I posted this10 days ago I have seen a good few loads of silage and hay on the move locally here in kildare, also a few big loads of straw going north .

We were contacted early Dec by some of the dairy farmers that we supply looking for additional loads of large squares of straw, preferably wheaten. Considering that the weather is so mild I'm surprised that there is such a demand.

Never wrestle with pigs · 26-12-2018 11:13PM

alangeorge wrote: »

we got round bales of haylage here that thinking of selling, need to get rid as wanted the space but what is a realistic price at present for these please

If it's good quality and made with a modern baler I think 30 is fair on everyone?

alangeorge · 27-12-2018 01:15AM

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

If it's good quality and made with a modern baler I think 30 is fair on everyone?

would it be worth more if got no slurry or fertiliser

Never wrestle with pigs · 27-12-2018 01:29AM

alangeorge wrote: »

would it be worth more if got no slurry or fertiliser

Less

dzer2 · 27-12-2018 07:44PM

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

alangeorge wrote: »

we got round bales of haylage here that thinking of selling, need to get rid as wanted the space but what is a realistic price at present for these please

If it's good quality and made with a modern baler I think 30 is fair on everyone?

Rushes around here making that

148multi · 27-12-2018 07:51PM

alangeorge wrote: »

we got round bales of haylage here that thinking of selling, need to get rid as wanted the space but what is a realistic price at present for these please

35, costs nearly 30 to make a descent bale.

Never wrestle with pigs · 27-12-2018 08:16PM

dzer2 wrote: »

Rushes around here making that

Is it really makeing it though? What they are looking for and what they are getting is a different story. Tbh no slurry or fert probably old grass isn't worth much. I sold 100 bales for 30 and was happy enough with that to a local.

dzer2 · 27-12-2018 08:45PM

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

dzer2 wrote: »

Rushes around here making that

Is it really makeing it though? What they are looking for and what they are getting is a different story. Tbh no slurry or fert probably old grass isn't worth much. I sold 100 bales for 30 and was happy enough with that to a local.

Lads paying 30 for rushes with grass through it for bedding. Mate sold 40 bales I loaded them and couldn't believe the price. That's what I get for spraying and cleaning up my fields.

Never wrestle with pigs · 27-12-2018 08:48PM

dzer2 wrote: »

Lads paying 30 for rushes with grass through it for bedding. Mate sold 40 bales I loaded them and couldn't believe the price. That's what I get for spraying and cleaning up my fields.

I don't know whether to say fair play to the lad selling them or say whoever is buying them needs a kick up the holel. Lol

Markcheese · 27-12-2018 10:02PM

dzer2 wrote: »

Lads paying 30 for rushes with grass through it for bedding. Mate sold 40 bales I loaded them and couldn't believe the price. That's what I get for spraying and cleaning up my fields.

Well hopefully you got grass...

dzer2 · 27-12-2018 10:42PM

Markcheese wrote: »

dzer2 wrote: »

Lads paying 30 for rushes with grass through it for bedding. Mate sold 40 bales I loaded them and couldn't believe the price. That's what I get for spraying and cleaning up my fields.

Well hopefully you got grass...

Yeah loads of the stuff only housed the last of the cattle on xmas eve

Dakota Dan · 28-12-2018 02:57PM

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Is it really makeing it though? What they are looking for and what they are getting is a different story. Tbh no slurry or fert probably old grass isn't worth much. I sold 100 bales for 30 and was happy enough with that to a local.

A top class dairy farmer around here paid 35 a bale for rushes during the summer, he intends mixing it with silage in the diet feeder. Not much feeding in rushes never mind trying to fool the cows into eating them.

jaymla627 · 28-12-2018 03:07PM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

A top class dairy farmer around here paid 35 a bale for rushes during the summer, he intends mixing it with silage in the diet feeder. Not much feeding in rushes never mind trying to fool the cows into eating them.

They’ll eat them alright but will literally need to be straving, suckler lad beside us who would be rough out and never has grass, cows will eat rushes to the butt

charolais0153 · 28-12-2018 03:17PM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

A top class dairy farmer around here paid 35 a bale for rushes during the summer, he intends mixing it with silage in the diet feeder. Not much feeding in rushes never mind trying to fool the cows into eating them.

Apparently rushes have similar dmd to straw

Timmaay · 29-12-2018 06:39PM

Got offered bales from 2 different locals here in the last 24hrs. Market must be softening.

The Nutty M · 29-12-2018 08:04PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Got offered bales from 2 different locals here in the last 24hrs. Market must be softening.

That,or they know the credit card bill is coming in January :-)

Water John · 29-12-2018 08:12PM

Some who do a good bit in sales of bales like to offload them throughout the winter. Maybe taking a reasonable price but spreading cash flow and risk. They may have thought they'd be further on in sales by the year end.
Even thought indoor stock seem to be motoring through silage, the mild weather and a bit of grass growth may have slowed purchases. Fellas hoping for an early spring.

Grueller · 29-12-2018 08:49PM

Water John wrote: »

Some who do a good bit in sales of bales like to offload them throughout the winter. Maybe taking a reasonable price but spreading cash flow and risk. They may have thought they'd be further on in sales by the year end.
Even thought indoor stock seem to be motoring through silage, the mild weather and a bit of grass growth may have slowed purchases. Fellas hoping for an early spring.

Heard one of the met eireann lads on the radio today. The likelihood from the weather charts is a hard cold January. Watch that soft wet grass melt if that happens.

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