Do you give money to charity?

Neyite · 20-12-2018 05:27PM

I run a fundraiser every year at work, and I donate to several charities myself when I can.

Things like the Console scandal have made me wary though. If a charity does not have transparency then I'm not interested, no matter how vital the service provided purports to be.

The other issue is that what we in the West perceive to be of benefit to a developing nation is not necessarily the support they themselves need. Take for example, orphanages. We know that growing up in care is detrimental to child development and very often children are put into these places by their parents due to extreme poverty. These children could be reared at home or by extended family with the right supports in the community rather than having an institutionalised child and a fortnightly rotation of new faces as caregivers so they don't learn to form any emotional attachments. So I support the likes of Lumos because it supports and enables communities to be self sufficient.

Edgware · 20-12-2018 05:54PM

I arrange it for deductions from my wages every week. Its called P.A.Y.E.

Edgware · 20-12-2018 05:55PM

cavan4sam wrote: »

I pay to local charities & SVP because i know first hand of the good work they do at this time of the year

Have a trip around with some of the S.V.P. and see how some are abusing your generosity

LollipopJimmy · 20-12-2018 05:56PM

Edgware wrote: »

I arrange it for deductions from my wages every week. Its called P.A.Y.E.

Ah would you **** off. Is this how people really feel?

20-12-2018 05:57PM

SVP

ELM327 · 20-12-2018 05:58PM

Usually donate €100/€200 to the simon community or focus Ireland if I have had some good luck, or at christmas.

Last year and this year though, I (and my partner each) spent that same amount on stuff for the local SVP christmas toy appeal. Better than giving money IMO. Comes with the nice feeling that on christmas morning someone in need is opening presents that we donated.

freshpopcorn · 20-12-2018 06:18PM

I'd be open to a lot of local charities/clubs and some national one's.
The one's I'd be cautious of are one's such as the Peter McVerry trust!

DEFTLEFTHAND · 20-12-2018 06:40PM

I love table quizzes and do as many as I can every yr for a host of different charities.

Fav charities to give to are ISPCA and Irish Cancer Society.

jetsonx · 20-12-2018 06:49PM

I donate to NAMA whenever I can to help solicitors and property developers.

I also make regular contributions to Fianna Fail. Of late, they have fallen on hard times and don't get as much money as they used so every little helps...

I also donate to the Garda Benevolent Trust Fund. They help Gardai who have fallen on hard times. For example members who might have lost their job recently, lost phones and have to emigrate. Very worthy cause.

corner of hells · 20-12-2018 07:01PM

Edgware wrote: »

Have a trip around with some of the S.V.P. and see how some are abusing your generosity

Why ? What happened when you went out with them ?

cavan4sam · 20-12-2018 07:13PM

Edgware wrote: »

cavan4sam wrote: »

I pay to local charities & SVP because i know first hand of the good work they do at this time of the year

Have a trip around with some of the S.V.P. and see how some are abusing your generosity

Well they provided my xmas dinner one year
, every charity is abused I'm just giving my tuppence worth
The people i know working for SVP are walking saints

LirW · 20-12-2018 07:17PM

Not money but I follow the Shoebox appeal, this year with 2 shoeboxes and there's a small money donation that comes with it.
I think it's a lovely project.

Magnatu · 20-12-2018 07:24PM

No. Never. On principle.
Although there are some volunteers that do admirable work very little of most money donated does anything worthwhile.
Some like the third world charities do more harm that good and the research and awareness charities are pointless.
e.g. cancer research or suicide "awareness"
I do however pay taxes and vast amount of taxpayer money is already given to charities.

Wildly Boaring · 20-12-2018 08:04PM

I always gave bits .

SVP
Pieta House
Couple local hospices.

Have spent the last week in CUH and Crumlin and will be in one or the other over Christmas.

Cannot believe the level of generosity and how much use the hospitals make of what they get for the parents and kids. It's amazing. Simple things like soup or coffee for parents. Beds in a little wing for parents. Showers. Towels. Some local chippers or pizza places dropping in stuff.

Basically I've already gone out and bought stuff they need and I'm gonna have deep pockets fir the rest of my life for these places.

Be organising some fundraiser or other for them next summer too.

Magnatu · 20-12-2018 08:25PM

Neyite wrote: »

The other issue is that what we in the West perceive to be of benefit to a developing nation is not necessarily the support they themselves need. Take for example, orphanages. We know that growing up in care is detrimental to child development and very often children are put into these places by their parents due to extreme poverty. These children could be reared at home or by extended family with the right supports in the community rather than having an institutionalised child and a fortnightly rotation of new faces as caregivers so they don't learn to form any emotional attachments.

And money raised by charities in the west directly contributes to children being removed from their families and placed in orphanages. The charity workers who "care" for them with charity donations get to feel fulfilled. The "orphans"are collateral damage. Just one example of harm and damage caused by Western aid charities and the people that support them.

Magnatu · 20-12-2018 08:35PM

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Have spent the last week in CUH and Crumlin and will be in one or the other over Christmas.

Cannot believe the level of generosity and how much use the hospitals make of what they get for the parents and kids. It's amazing. Simple things like soup or coffee for parents. Beds in a little wing for parents. Showers. Towels. Some local chippers or pizza places dropping in stuff.

Basically I've already gone out and bought stuff they need and I'm gonna have deep pockets fir the rest of my life for these places.

Be organising some fundraiser or other for them next summer too.

Fair enough if you find spending time with parents of sick children emotionally rewarding and fulfilling but many of these parents would be well off and able to pay for their own soup and pizzas..

gozunda · 20-12-2018 09:28PM

'Charities' are by in large organisations who extract money from good people, to keep them selves in jobs.

Do I give money to charities? - No.
Do I help those in need when I can? - Yes I do.

Wildly Boaring · 20-12-2018 09:38PM

Magnatu wrote: »

Fair enough if you find spending time with parents of sick children emotionally rewarding and fulfilling but many of these parents would be well off and able to pay for their own soup and pizzas..

We are in with our kid in ICU.

Having on site beds for worried parents who's kids may or may not get through the day is amazing.

The soup or whatever is about the fact that food is a second thought to worry. You forget to feed yourself and next thing its midnight and thank christ someone else thought of it or you.

You must think these kids are in here with the sniffles. Loads in for chemo or worse simply to have pain managed.

As I said never realised how generosity can go so far. When you are having your darkest days

Magnatu · 20-12-2018 10:08PM

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

We are in with our kid in ICU.

Having on site beds for worried parents who's kids may or may not get through the day is amazing.

The soup or whatever is about the fact that food is a second thought to worry. You forget to feed yourself and next thing its midnight and thank christ someone else thought of it or you.

You must think these kids are in here with the sniffles. Loads in for chemo or worse simply to have pain managed.

As I said never realised how generosity can go so far. When you are having your darkest days

This thread however is about giving money to organized charities. You are trying to make it about something else. On site beds are provided by the HSE. There are catering facilitaties in hospitals. If someone wants to bring you soup or pizza from off site fair play to them. That is very Noble of them. If someone is prepared to support you emotionally and with support I applaud them. But you are advocating that people should give money to organized charities which will use some of the money to pay people to go out and get your soup. After the cut for the collectors and the admin and the CEO salary.

I have volunteered and helped out those that needed it financially and otherwise over the years.
However supporting the charity industry is something I refuse to do.

Edgware · 20-12-2018 10:25PM

corner of hells wrote: »

Why ? What happened when you went out with them ?

Delivered a hamper to a house to discover they were all off to Liverpool on "Boxing day" for a Premiership match

Atoms for Peace · 20-12-2018 10:30PM

I gave the Red Cross a donation of a fiver for the tsunami a few years back, since then they have regularly sent me numerous chunky envelopes asking for more. By this stage the cost of posting me said junk has far exceeded the initial measly donation.

Atoms for Peace · 20-12-2018 10:35PM

Are there any charities that support family planning and personal responsibility? Most seen to be contributing to a toxic culture of entitlement.

Edgware · 20-12-2018 11:09PM

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Are there any charities that support family planning and personal responsibility? Most seen to be contributing to a toxic culture of entitlement.

Ah now stop talking ****e. You know the more kids the bird knocks out the more the social will give

The Satanist · 20-12-2018 11:11PM

I donate €50 per month to animal sanctuaries and rescues. It's the least I can do.

artvanderlay · 20-12-2018 11:19PM

I give a yearly donation to a donkey sanctuary. I also used to give to my local SPCA charity, but I've started looking after the cats around my house instead (made them little shelters, feed them every day, taking one to a vet after Christmas). I also shop in charity shops: I got my dad a brand new M&S jacket, that was €150, for €15 in a charity shop yesterday. He's chuffed! I used to give to an orangutan charity: must start that up again in the new year. That's about it.

Edgware · 20-12-2018 11:21PM

artvanderlay wrote: »

I give a yearly donation to a donkey sanctuary. I also used to give to my local SPCA charity, but I've started looking after the cats around my house instead (made them little shelters, feed them every day, taking one to a vet after Christmas). I also shop in charity shops: I got my dad a brand new M&S jacket, that was €150, for €15 in a charity shop yesterday. He's chuffed! I used to give to an orangutan charity: must start that up again in the new year. That's about it.

An orangutan charity. F.F.S. I've heard it all now

artvanderlay · 20-12-2018 11:22PM

Good. Now you can die :pac:

Austria! · 20-12-2018 11:24PM

murpho999 wrote: »

The people you are talking about being on 35k to 40k are not capable of working at the level of a CEO.

I don't believe that's true at all, and I allocate my funds accordingly.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 20-12-2018 11:29PM

A few. Mountain rescue, coastguards, my local SPCA (which is run on a shoestring budget by 100% volunteer staff). That’s all I can afford.

corner of hells · 21-12-2018 10:40AM

Edgware wrote: »

Delivered a hamper to a house to discover they were all off to Liverpool on "Boxing day" for a Premiership match

Pretty clear empirical evidence.
Not the usual anecdotal "a bloke I know " example.

So what happened after you found out they were off to Liverpool ?

Was it just the one hamper delivered that day or did you deliver any hampers to genuine needy people ?

It settles it for me , I'ma gonna quit my job in the morning with charity I work for.

Do you give money to charity?

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