Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

Cardiff gonna hammer us that's just karma other three games I can see two out of three being wins Newcastle the tricky one hopefully 7 out of 12 points but Cardiff are gonna Hulk up just for the baby faced assassin

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Why not? Why did real Madrid appoint Zidane or Barca appoint Pep?

i couldn't care less why they were appointed.

Do you honestly think Woodward has been tracking his progress at Molde since his failure at Cardiff. Do you think we've been tracking him week to week and seeing how he plays and manages?

Do you think if the manager of Molde, who failed at Cardiff, was not a former United player that the club would have looked at him?

bangkok wrote: »

Its only until the summer and who knows, imagine he got us top 4!!

taking a big gamble now, so that we can take a gamble that Poch might join us in the summer. Removing the possibility of us having a January or Summr window that will be calm, professional and address the problems with the squad properly. Brilliant.

I reckon Woodward has done Ole a massive favour here. Ole will be back managing in English football and will probably get an English team to manage next summer as a result of this appointment and Woodward now has a lackey to do his bidding, i.e. the players with the massive brand appeal and social media presence ALWAYS start. Ole's comments about building the team around Pogba certainly suggests this as well, imo.

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Most likely not but what's the alternative? Yeah he didn't do well with Cardiff but I'd like to have seen how Zidane would have got on with that Cardiff team.

It's only until the end of the season anyway, season is over, we can't win the league, need a miracle to get into the top 4 and to beat PSG. Jose should have been gone 6 months ago at least but it is as it is. I wish him the best of luck.

If he can get the players back enjoying their football, build confidence and play attractive attacking football he'll have been a success.

top 4 is still gettable. Difficult but difficult. We are still in the CL. We are still in the FA Cup. The season is not over, but the club are acting like it is.

We need someone to get more out of our players than we have been getting, we need someone who can fix problems - I don't think him simply not being Mourinho is enough to fix the problems and I don't see the evidence in his career that he can fix the problems. And I don't believe the club appointed him because of research and review that shows that he could be the man to turn it around.

Nalz wrote: »

Neville disagrees

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11585357/gary-neville-says-excuse-for-paul-pogbas-tweet-after-jose-mourinhos-sacking-is-garbage

Neville has lost most of his objectivity on this one. There are apps that schedule Instagram and Tweets that monitor traffic spikes to maximize exposure. Obviously during the Jose announcement there was a huge spike in web traffic and the Adidas promo self posted.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

yep.

Its insane. An appointment made with zero footballing reason behind it. If Ole didn't have history here he'd never have been considered.

Its not a marquee appointment but your being a bit over negative. Weve just had to make a mid-season sacking and its only 24hours later and this is a temporary appointment.

Jardim or Blanc will take a longer amount of time to get in a contract so its a race against time. Ole has some experience and knows the club so its as good as they can do given the time frame.

Marquee signings are not a perfect solution either as Jose taught us.

Your Airbag wrote: »

Neville has lost most of his objectivity on this one. There are apps that schedule Instagram and Tweets that monitor traffic spikes to maximize exposure. Obviously during the Jose announcement there was a huge spike in web traffic and the Adidas promo self posted.



Its not a marquee appointment but your being a bit over negative. Weve just had to make a mid-season sacking and its only 24hours later and this is a temporary appointment.

Jardim or Blanc will take a longer amount of time to get in a contract so its a race against time. Ole has some experience and knows the club so its as good as they can do given the time frame.

Marquee signings are not a perfect solution either as Jose taught us.

the 24 hour time frame is self empossed. we didn't need him in today. or tomorrow. or this week. Is Solskjaer/Phelan with 2 days of work with the squad a significantly better bet than Carrick and McKenna for this weekend? Is there no way the club could have spent a bit more time working on solutions?

bangkok wrote: »

If ole got us top 4, he would deserve a 2 year contract based on that alone. Would be an amazing achievment.

Long term, as i dont think there will be much activity in jan, we should be looking to sign

de ligt for centre back
Ndombele for midfield
Icardi for striker

We actually have a base for a very good team.
Dalot, shaw, lindelof looks much better, pogba fred rashford martial mata

Also if de gea pushes for a move to psg, i would be offering 100m as well to get mbappe

so we shouldn;t have a football manager in any way responsible for the signings we make? We shouldn't be looking to make signings that are suitable for the manager we will have and the formation/style he intends to play.

Cool.

I'm glad the club are learning from mistakes

bangkok wrote: »

Ah a gif. Didnt bother reading after that

So it's fine for Pogba to be tweeting and Instagramming to his hearts content, but gif aren't allowed here?

Crazy to see the club lowered to the point of hiring Molde’s manager who failed miserably in the Premier League at Cardiff, on a 6 month basis, essentially just because he’s a former player.

It’s Manchester United FFS. Arguably the biggest club in the world. They should be appointing whatever manager they decide they want in world football, not this.

Nuts102 wrote: »

Move away from all the romantasism about this appointment and it shows what a joke the club has become.

I want him to succeed but if this was a rival we would laughing at them.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

yep.

Its insane. An appointment made with zero footballing reason behind it. If Ole didn't have history here he'd never have been considered.

I must be going crazy over here. Again, I love this.

So for all the talk that problem at the club ran deeper than just Mourinho and invovled the club structure, players and clear path and goal, I don't see how going for another big name right away would solve anything long term before the other problems were solved.

Is this not what fans wanted? Bring in Solskjaer, who despite displaying his rebuilding abilities at Molde and his experience already coaching some of these players when he coached for us before is being wrote off as just a romanticisism.

Reports are saying the club finally are looking at changing the structure of the club, trying to create an outline and plan and then focus on our permanent manager who suits this objective. That to me sounds way better than yet again bring in a big name manager and hope for the best.

And for the period while this is going on I don't see how bringing in Solskjaer and Phelan is nuts. Two people who have worked for the club previously and with players we have on this squad still. The way some are going on about Solskjaer it's like we just gave it to Scholes.

Giggs finds himself managing Wales, Neville was given Valencia, Gerard Rangers, Solskjaer has coached in the youths/reserves for two clubs, won trophies at Molde, yes failed at Cardiff, but then went back and oversaw the rebuilding of Molde again, but finds himself under scrutiny. People wanted Giggs to get it years ago despite no experience, and Moyes, LVG and Mourinho have struggled despite bags of it. I think Ole has the right mentality and desire and hope it's a success.

I think it would be more insane and we'd look like more of a joke of a club throwing big money at another big name manager and expected them to turn it around only for the same problems to reoccur. A short term fix. I know people will question are the board geniunely planning some re-structuring and goal but from the reports and actions it really looks that way.