Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

PhlegmyMoses · 18-12-2018 10:36PM

DM_7 wrote: »

Hazard did.

Would you agree that it is rare and would turn off many a player, adding in the fact that they are halfway through their season?

billyhead · 18-12-2018 10:39PM

thegreengoblin wrote: »

This is United we're talking about!

But yeah it does make me wonder if they have a verbal agreement with Poch. Hopefully the story leaks and Spurs' season goes off the rails!

Its a worry if we do have a verbal agreement as they mean sweet fa.

Mitch Connor · 18-12-2018 10:46PM

Econ__ wrote: »

You were trying to equate Mourinho not being ‘backed’ in the Summer to Poch not being ‘backed’ at Spurs despite the fact that the two operating in completely different circumstances that cannot be compared with such glibness.

Your point was nonsensical and you got called out on it. Get over it.

Yep. Whatever. You win, or something. Good one.

martingriff · 18-12-2018 10:51PM

Just wondering why would Ole go as caretaker manager just for a few month when he has a permanent (as permanent as a manager can be) unless there is something else in it for him

Mr.Nice Guy · 18-12-2018 10:56PM

martingriff wrote: »

Just wondering why would Ole go as caretaker manager just for a few month when he has a permanent (as permanent as a manager can be) unless there is something else in it for him

His stock would be far higher from 5 good months at United than from 5 excellent seasons at Molde.

chicorytip · 18-12-2018 10:56PM

DM_7 wrote:

I actually thought Ole would be a good choice as DOF for United due to his history. As a player, as a coach and his work running a club on a smaller scale.

Even Roy Keane has a vastly more impressive managerial C.V. than this fellah. Who in their right mind would be willing to take on this mooted "Caretaker" position anyway?

Mitch Connor · 18-12-2018 10:57PM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

His stock would be far higher from 5 good months at United than from 5 excellent seasons at Molde.

This. A half decent job puts him in the frame for so many more jobs elsewhere

thegreengoblin · 18-12-2018 10:57PM

Whatever about the merits of Ole or Blanc as interim boss, the most critical decisions in all of this are director of football and a permanent coach. Let's not lose sight of that.

Mitch Connor · 18-12-2018 10:59PM

chicorytip wrote: »

Even Roy Keane has a vastly more impressive managerial C.V. than this fellah. Who in their right mind would be willing to take on this mooted "Caretaker" position anyway?

Plenty of managers have done caretaker roles.

Benitez. Hiddink. RDM. Solari.

magnumbud · 18-12-2018 10:59PM

martingriff wrote: »

Just wondering why would Ole go as caretaker manager just for a few month when he has a permanent (as permanent as a manager can be) unless there is something else in it for him

If it goes any way well he may get a better offer than molde afterwards. Close the gap on top 4 best he can, decent showing against psg and a good go at the fa cup

martingriff · 18-12-2018 11:04PM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

His stock would be far higher from 5 good months at United than from 5 excellent seasons at Molde.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

This. A half decent job puts him in the frame for so many more jobs elsewhere

magnumbud wrote: »

If it goes any way well he may get a better offer than molde afterwards. Close the gap on top 4 best he can, decent showing against psg and a good go at the fa cup

Good point

uncleoswald · 18-12-2018 11:04PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I'm not arguing agaisnt that (and I did also say Poch back then too).

My Hmmmmm is to do with Poch maybe wanting to leave Spurs for the same things Mourinho has moaned about all season. Leaving Spurs for the same set of problems.

I get that. I get that he'd have reservations but I still believe he'll have superior backing at United versus what he gets at Spurs. He may be waiting for one of the other top jobs but they are limited and there is always a danger that his stock will never be higher than it is now.

United were a sh*t show 3 years ago and we still managed to get one of the most highly regarded managers in the game. That manager was backed with over 400m pounds in 3 years so I can't imagine our stock has fallen that much in the game.

Previously people questioned appointed Poch because "he's won nothing yet", now it's "why would he go there"? If he's the right man we should just go all out for him.

DM_7 · 18-12-2018 11:08PM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Would you agree that it is rare and would turn off many a player, adding in the fact that they are halfway through their season?

Not many players would be looking to move in January to begin with.

But yes I think players would still be attracted to United and the league despite the manager scenario. Especially ones at clubs out of the mix in Europe for example and back themselves to be better than players United have.

Look at right back, if United went for a player like Denzel Dumphries from PSV or Klosterman from Leipzig I think the scanario would still allow a transfer.

I don't see United getting in any major signings but it is possible they could still bring in players of suitable quality to deal with problems now.

Headshot · 18-12-2018 11:11PM

thegreengoblin wrote: »

Whatever about the merits of Ole or Blanc as interim boss, the most critical decisions in all of this are director of football and a permanent coach. Let's not lose sight of that.

Seemingly Jose was blocking this appointment

Can't get my head around that tbh.

billyhead · 18-12-2018 11:18PM

Headshot wrote: »

Seemingly Jose was blocking this appointment

Can't get my head around that tbh.

His ego wouldn't have someone looking over his shoulder in an oversight type role
Mourinho wanted full control over football matters. To be fair I wouldn't blame him their. Do you think Saf would agree to a director of football?

Rayne Wooney · 18-12-2018 11:20PM

I love OGS as much as the next guy but manager of Manchester United? I mean

If Jose is as toxic as people said he was and we actually do have a good team we have 21 GAMES?! to put a dent in 11 points + knockout stages of CL and FA cup.

I’m going to give whoever it is every chance, but if it is Ole I get a strong felling we’ll be seeing posts such as “you can’t expect them to perform under such a limited manager” etc in a couple of months time as the players get off once again

Your Airbag · 18-12-2018 11:21PM

I don't buy the "why would xyz join us now, we are a mess" line. It's still Manchester United, that badge and this club comes with a lot of history beyond the post Fergie years.

We have the best stadium in England and the finances to go toe to toe with the elite clubs in the transfer market. I don't think we'd have trouble attracting any top manager who is available.

If clubs like Madrid, and Bayern had bad season those names still come with a lot of weight and managers would jump at the chance. UTD is no different.

yabadabado · 18-12-2018 11:23PM

billyhead wrote: »

His ego wouldn't have someone looking over his shoulder in an oversight type role
Mourinho wanted full control over football matters. To be fair I wouldn't blame him their. Do you think Saf would agree to a director of football?

Very hard appoint a DoF with a manager already in place.
The next few months is the ideal time to get a DoF in and start the changes needed. Then bring in a manger in June who knows what they are getting into.

Headshot · 18-12-2018 11:23PM

billyhead wrote: »

His ego wouldn't have someone looking over his shoulder in an oversight type role
Mourinho wanted full control over football matters. To be fair I wouldn't blame him their. Do you think Saf would agree to a director of football?

Every club Jose was at previous had a DOF.

The big difference is Ferguson had the likes of David Gill where as we have Woodward now.

David and Ferguson had a great relationship.

I think we can see now that Woodward is not a football man, the guy is unbelievable in marketing but this naivety recently from giving Jose a new contract and the summer debacle really opens the eyes

Econ__ · 18-12-2018 11:23PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Yep. Whatever. You win, or something. Good one.

It’s not about winning or losing, it’s about discussion & debate. I gave a crisp, constructive reply to your assertion that Poch might leave Spurs because of particular issues, only to encounter the same issues at OT.

Instead of engaging in proper discussion, you sniped back like a sulky teenager. Pity.

GSPfan · 18-12-2018 11:26PM

Well well well. What a day.

I could care less in trying to predict what is going to happen next but I’m liking this apparent strategy to go for someone permanent in the Summer. I hope it’s Pochettino but can not see it happening yet. Either way the Summer is a better time to wrestle a manager away from a club.

LuckyGent88 · 18-12-2018 11:28PM

G Neville excellent on The debate just now. Pretty much nail on the head with all the points he made.

Our club really needs to get its **** together. Get back to what matters most and that is the football side of things.

ericzeking · 18-12-2018 11:29PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

I love OGS as much as the next guy but manager of Manchester United? I mean

If Jose is as toxic as people said he was and we actually do have a good team we have 21 GAMES?! to put a dent in 11 points + knockout stages of CL and FA cup.

I’m going to give whoever it is every chance, but if it is Ole I get a strong felling we’ll be seeing posts such as “you can’t expect them to perform under such a limited manager” etc in a couple of months time as the players get off once again

And if we go out and just hire anyone with a big name who is available right now then the club will be criticized for a quick knee jerk appointment.

If people were to turn against OGS within the short time he is due to be in charge then they are just sad and everything that is wrong with modern fans.

This is solid strategy IMO.

dubmick · 18-12-2018 11:30PM

Solskjaer confirmed!

Lithium93_ · 18-12-2018 11:33PM

dubmick wrote: »

Solskjaer confirmed!

I haven't seen anything on Twitter, or from Simon Stone or Mark Ogden.

Mantis Toboggan · 18-12-2018 11:35PM

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

G Neville excellent on The debate just now. Pretty much nail on the head with all the points he made.

Our club really needs to get its **** together. Get back to what matters most and that is the football side of things.

Absolutely, the club has sold it's sole, it's all about haircuts and hashtags.

In fairness to Woodward he's a marketing guy and he's good at that, unfortunately when it comes to football and running a club he's clueless.

dubmick · 18-12-2018 11:35PM

Lithium93_ wrote: »

dubmick wrote: »

Solskjaer confirmed!

I haven't seen anything on Twitter, or from Simon Stone or Mark Ogden.

https://www.manutd.com/en/videos/detail/highlights-of-the-1999-champions-league-final-and-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-winner

And bizarrely the Norwegian PM has just tweeted it.

wanderer100 · 18-12-2018 11:35PM

dubmick wrote: »

Solskjaer confirmed!

Norweigan PM tweeted this!! Looks like its happening

https://twitter.com/erna_solberg/status/1075154155659059206

Nalz · 18-12-2018 11:36PM

Daley Blind scored a Hattrick at the weekend

18-12-2018 11:38PM

People putting a lot of faith in that Woodward has a plan, it could easily be get Ole in and we will take it from there

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

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