The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

JoeA3 · 06-12-2018 12:48PM

Not many Irish cars have factory fitted alarms these days. Immobiliser yes, alarm no. The Golf R is the only VW that comes with it as standard afaik.

06-12-2018 03:33PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Is there definitely no alarm as standard. Can't believe you could just walk up to one break in and drive off and it won't even give a beep.
Will be getting the technology pack that seems to give some kind of notification via car net it's been broken into. I can find nothing about a standard alarm even an immobilizer.
The car net doesn't seem to be free looks like you have to go get your own SIM contact to use it when you look down in the T's and C's.

How are they going to start it to drive it off?

I haven’t much heed in car alarms (or house alarms for that matter) they are far more of a noise nuisance going off falsely than the use they provide. A car is very hard to steal without the keys (which nullifies the alarm), breaking in to snatch stuff won’t be stopped by an alarm as it only takes a second. I’d not bother with the alarm and spend my money on some sort of good tracker, or even better a kill switch so they can’t start it even with the keys (or something that kills it a few km down the road) so it can’t be taken even with the key.

JoeA3 · 06-12-2018 03:54PM

No alarm on the Golf also means no deadlocks, which would concern me more.

drunkmonkey · 06-12-2018 04:00PM

Called the insurance company, no loading for not having the alarm, so there's one extra I can scrap.

The technology pack i'm not so sure on either, if it was leather i'd say ya I need heated seats but with cloth I don't think so. Not worried about navigation or vw apps, the standard audio system supports spotify and android auto that will do me. Heated washers etc, again not too bothered, i've got a kettle for cold mornings.

I would keep the High beam assist as an extra on it's own @184 as i'm used to it. That and metallic paint @676. Not seeing any other must haves. The standard spec nearly covers it all.

drunkmonkey · 06-12-2018 04:40PM

The standard one has everything you need though for the head unit, are people really going to hammer me for not having heated cloth seats and a reversing camera it's hardly a bus.

Mickiemcfist · 06-12-2018 04:48PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

The standard one has everything you need though for the head unit, are people really going to hammer me for not having heated cloth seats and a reversing camera it's hardly a bus.

Gotta say, I wouldn't invest in options with the goal of recouping it at resale time because you won't. Year, Mileage & condition are the major factors for resale value in Ireland, anything above that is a plus.

dar83 · 06-12-2018 04:52PM

Tech pack is a must to be honest. As OSI says, when every other car has it and yours is the one that doesn't, it will hurt you.

Also car (and house) alarms are most definitely something I would not only suggest but say are required too. I guess it depends on where you live but I know for a fact I have been scoped out/targeted in the past and since getting the alarm, which not only goes off with a glass break, but also for tilt and proximity has given me piece of mind and reduced the interest in it. I would say especially with VW's you need that extra cover, unless you like replacing wheels and mirror caps etc... It's not only the car they;'re interested in, it can be parts off it which they can easily take without gaining access to it.

Edit: Just to add, also a good shout on the tracker and aftermarket immobiliser too!

Max Q · 06-12-2018 04:53PM

OSI wrote: »

When every other car in the yard has it, they'll have to make yours attractive somehow and they won't do it off their own backs.

I'd agree with this, doubt you'll find many GTI's not spec'd with this stuff, so you'd definitely be at the low end come trade in time.

Are you sticking with the Active Info Display (digital dash)? If so, not getting the nav will mean you wont be able to put the moving map on the dash between the dials (which you can reduce in size to give a large map), one of it's best features I think.

JoeA3 · 06-12-2018 05:10PM

dar83 wrote: »

Tech pack is a must to be honest. As OSI says, when every other car has it and yours is the one that doesn't, it will hurt you.

Also car (and house) alarms are most definitely something I would not only suggest but say are required too. I guess it depends on where you live but I know for a fact I have been scoped out/targeted in the past and since getting the alarm, which not only goes off with a glass break, but also for tilt and proximity has given me piece of mind and reduced the interest in it. I would say especially with VW's you need that extra cover, unless you like replacing wheels and mirror caps etc... It's not only the car they;'re interested in, it can be parts off it which they can easily take without gaining access to it.

Edit: Just to add, also a good shout on the tracker and aftermarket immobiliser too!

The factory alarm won't go off if you tamper with the door mirrors (I should know!). Technically it's supposed to go off if the car is tilted / jacked-up. I never tried. As I mentioned earlier, the lack of deadlocks when you don't spec the alarm would bother me more.

I'd tend to agree to some extent that alarms are only a nuisance, people ignore them going off. But it would still give me peace of mind as a deterrent of sorts. A house alarm is probably much more important - they'll ultimately need your keys - in your house - to take the car.

I don't think the tech pack will make diddly squat difference come trade in time. Dealers don't offer much, if anything, back on any options you'd spec. I'd still spec it though as it is a nice package.

drunkmonkey · 06-12-2018 05:13PM

dar83 wrote: »

Tech pack is a must to be honest. As OSI says, when every other car has it and yours is the one that doesn't, it will hurt you.

My car will be lighter, and lighter = faster:cool:

dar83 · 06-12-2018 05:55PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

My car will be lighter, and lighter = faster:cool:

You'd probably get better gains by only filling the tank halfway each time. :P

DaveyDave · 06-12-2018 10:22PM

I don't think many new cars come with alarms these days. Normally I'd be against an alarm, at least a house one anyway as they do nothing, a car alarm on the other hand would stand out these days. You'd know it's your car.

In regards to the tech pack, it isn't a huge cost for what you get. I almost didn't get it because I didn't think I needed heated seats. They're really good. Even though it's a small car don't rule out the reversing camera, it's a really good camera and the large screen helps. It's gotten me out of some blind parking anytime a van or Qashqai parks beside me and blocks my view.

Haven't seen above mention the heated windscreen?

SaintsYB · 07-12-2018 01:07AM

I have to say, if I was looking to pick between two Golfs to buy with one having the tech pack and one not, I'm realistically not going to choose the one that doesn't.

hooch-85 · 07-12-2018 10:06AM

I'd agree on the tech pack, the camera is excellent and the heated seats are very nice in this weather.

Hebegeebee · 07-12-2018 11:42AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

My car will be lighter, and lighter = faster:cool:

If you really want to do that your starting point would be to ditch the standard alloys as they weigh a ton.

Hebegeebee · 07-12-2018 01:04PM

JoeA3 wrote: »

Technically it's supposed to go off if the car is tilted / jacked-up. I never tried.

I can confirm that it does go off when jacked/tilted.

MidMan25 · 09-12-2018 07:25PM

Clean VRS

easyvision · 13-12-2018 06:24PM

So I got the Michelin PS4s in the end, feels like the car has waaaaay more grip, love them!

ChuckLarry · 13-12-2018 07:48PM

Golf LED headlights

Looking for some help/advice from you knowledgeable folk on here, recently ordered a new golf HL with R Line kit for delivery early January, from the pictures I had seen I assumed the LED headlights were standard (silly I know)
is there much involved in changing for LED?
Funny part is I’m not that pushed on LED for the lights themselves it’s the daytime running lights I want as they look like the GTD/GTI.

Thanks

sky18 · 13-12-2018 09:38PM

ChuckLarry wrote: »

Golf LED headlights

Looking for some help/advice from you knowledgeable folk on here, recently ordered a new golf HL with R Line kit for delivery early January, from the pictures I had seen I assumed the LED headlights were standard (silly I know)
is there much involved in changing for LED?
Funny part is I’m not that pushed on LED for the lights themselves it’s the daytime running lights I want as they look like the GTD/GTI.

Thanks

I did them same as you last year HL with the R line kit I also ordered the Led lights. They are an 1800 euro option. The code for led's on the R line is different to the code for the standard golf the bumper is different obviously. EBay have aftermarket Led's but they probably won't fit. The Led's are excellent.

DaveyDave · 13-12-2018 09:44PM

I don't know how much front LEDs would cost you (make sure you get the right ones), but when I was pricing rear LED lights it was around €600-700 which is far more than the €450 or so it would cost with VW. Kicking myself for not getting the upgraded ones.

From what I gather there's 3-4 different model codes for each light as they're individual units, so you'd need 2 MK7.5 right hand drive units. You'll need to double check if they're plug and play and if any coding is needed. With the rear lights I was looking at some of the sellers included a new wire loom to plug in right away. Don't think it's too difficult overall, very pricey though.

The daytime lights in the LED headlights do look the business alright. Shame the Polo GTI isn't the same style.

It's a shame you can't just buy them from VW. The dealer won't get them for you.

ChuckLarry · 13-12-2018 11:51PM

Cheers for the info

I had my reservations about using non OEM parts on car fresh from the factory

guess I’ll just have to live with my mediocre lights till I go for the GTD next time

dastardly00 · 14-12-2018 05:41PM

On the VW website a new GTI starts at €41,595.

What was the starting price this time last year?

Max Q · 14-12-2018 06:06PM

dastardly00 wrote: »

On the VW website a new GTI starts at €41,595.

What was the starting price this time last year?

What model is that for, 3 door manual?

Here's some figures from old product guides I have:

In 2015 the base price for a 3 door manual (non-PP) GTI was €35,750.

in 2017 the same car was €38,195.

EDIT: I see they only offer the performance version now, here's the figures for the performance version:

2015 - from €37,070

2017 - from €39,995

DaveyDave · 14-12-2018 06:11PM

It's the 5 door Performance Pack. I think the DSG model was €43,xxx, it's €44,395 now.

Anyone know how these price increases compare to other territories? Hearing the 2015 prices you'd swear it was years ago considering how much more they are now.

Max Q · 14-12-2018 06:24PM

Here's the 5 door GTI-P manual prices for comparison:

2015 - €38,045

2017 - €40,995

OSI wrote: »

151 was short quite a bit of spec compared to now though. In saying that, mine was 40k so they've definitely creeped up.

That 2015 price was after the big spec upgrade, as that's the product guide prices from when I bought my GTI-P in 2015, it included the Xenons and the other spec improvements around that time.

From 2015 to now for what is essentially the same, albeit facelifted car with +15bhp it looks like a €3,550 price rise. Unfortunately with WLTP and more and more penal taxes they are going to continue creeping up I fear.

Gael23 · 16-12-2018 07:32PM

Any updates on the Mk8 yet?

everlast75 · 17-12-2018 12:39AM

Thoughts on this one folks please?

http://www.webbmotors.ie/vehicles/volkswagen/golf/dublin/2176111

17-12-2018 12:43AM

The dealer is reputable anyway. Very much so. They are good lads to sell cars though so if you are interested I'd get down there

It's not cheap of course but it looks minty.

dar83 · 17-12-2018 11:06AM

Yeah they get some nice stuff in there alright at times. That's where I bought my ST back in the day.

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