Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

pjohnson · 16-12-2018 01:16PM

GSPfan wrote: »

“How to run a successful Soccer Club”

Thats the one Ed needs :pac:

GSPfan · 16-12-2018 01:17PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Thats the one Ed needs :pac:

That or Football Management for Dummies.

RobbingBandit · 16-12-2018 01:18PM

GSPfan wrote: »

“How to ruin a successful Soccer Club”

Fyp

RobbingBandit · 16-12-2018 01:22PM

Gotta think Fellaini Matic Valencia Lukaku Pogba all gonna be up for it today we need an absolute miracle to scrap something out of this one if they can get their acts together it's possible

Liam McPoyle · 16-12-2018 01:51PM

All I want to see is some heart, some fcuking fight from the players. If they can't get g'ed up for this fixture then we are truly lost as a club. In the grand scheme of things the result is moot, Jose still must go, we still have too many passengers, but it would be nice to see some bloody effort put in.

nullzero · 16-12-2018 01:55PM

Business Cat wrote: »

All I want to see is some heart, some fcuking fight from the players. If they can't get g'ed up for this fixture then we are truly lost as a club. In the grand scheme of things the result is moot, Jose still must go, we still have too many passengers, but it would be nice to see some bloody effort put in.

I won't be holding my breath for any of the above.

nullzero · 16-12-2018 01:57PM

pjohnson wrote: »

If we arent selling Pogba we'd need to have him involved in picking the next manager. It *might* make him arséd to play if he is surrounded by mates.

The fact that we would have to pander to him in that way speaks volumes about why he needs to he shot out of a cannon to get him away from the club.

Rayne Wooney · 16-12-2018 02:01PM

If you are going to be beaten by quality that is fair enough, but the least you’d expect is the players on the pitch to put the effort in

And for anyone that also tries to blame this on Mourinho, don’t be so dim, hard work transcends the manager, one of the highest paid bunch of players in the world, you don’t get a pass because you dislike the manager

LiamoSail · 16-12-2018 02:02PM

nullzero wrote: »

The fact that we would have to pander to him in that way speaks volumes about why he needs to he shot out of a cannon to get him away from the club.

What will selling a world class player you can't replace achieve?

RobbingBandit · 16-12-2018 02:04PM

His attitude at times has caused problems with team morale sell him and that impact is gone.

VW 1 · 16-12-2018 02:10PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

What will selling a world class player you can't replace achieve?

At what point has pogba been world class for manchester United?

My question would be what is the point having a bang average performing player in the squad when we cant seem to get his world class "potential" out of him.

GSPfan · 16-12-2018 02:11PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

If you are going to be beaten by quality that is fair enough, but the least you’d expect is the players on the pitch to put the effort in

And for anyone that also tries to blame this on Mourinho, don’t be so dim, hard work transcends the manager, one of the highest paid bunch of players in the world, you don’t get a pass because you dislike the manager

Stop trying to divide us Rayne. We’re all aware of the problems from boardroom to bootroom and none of us are happy about it.
Constantly separating ourselves on the Jose issue is silly.

bangkok · 16-12-2018 02:16PM

RobbingBandit wrote: »

His attitude at times has caused problems with team morale sell him and that impact is gone.

How do you know this?

LiamoSail · 16-12-2018 02:16PM

VW 1 wrote: »

At what point has pogba been world class for manchester United?

My question would be what is the point having a bang average performing player in the squad when we cant seem to get his world class "potential" out of him.

If you want a world class midfielder, Pogba is your only option. No world class midfielder is going to sign for United in their current state.

So the choice is to realise the potential Pogba has, as both Juve and France have, or don't and be stuck with an average midfielder, be that Pogba on current form or another

LiamoSail · 16-12-2018 02:18PM

RobbingBandit wrote: »

His attitude at times has caused problems with team morale sell him and that impact is gone.

You can do, but then you're left with a midfield of Fellaini and Matic standard players, with a real struggle to attract anyone better.

Is that really a better position to be in?

nullzero · 16-12-2018 02:30PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

What will selling a world class player you can't replace achieve?

A world class player who is playing like a non league player doesn't deserve to be retained.

16-12-2018 02:38PM

https://twitter.com/skysportspl/status/1074289688603713536?s=12

pjohnson · 16-12-2018 02:39PM

Fred The Red wrote: »

https://twitter.com/skysportspl/status/1074289688603713536?s=12

I can see now why some dont like Keane as a pundit.

Rossi IRL · 16-12-2018 02:41PM

I suppose keane also thinks it was the players fault that he lost his recent job.

Rob Thomas · 16-12-2018 02:46PM

There's not a whole lot wrong with what he is saying. I think most fans are frustrated by what can look like the lack of effort.

Players have to take some responsibility in fairness. That's not to say that Jose is not blameless either and eventually he will go.

LiamoSail · 16-12-2018 02:47PM

Weepsie wrote: »

He's not shown that he's world class. His attitude stinks. Players have been sold for less.

The club would attract players just fine without him, they need to change their entire approach though.

He has shown he's world class, just not under Mourinho at united.

United won't be able to attract the calibre of players they could previously, as the other English and European clubs are now relatively more attractive, despite the money available.

Similar to Liverpool a few years back, signing the likes of Downing and Carroll for similar amounts Chelsea/City paid for Mata and Aguero. It's fine having the money, but that alone won't tempt the best players when there's more attractive alternatives

Rossi IRL · 16-12-2018 02:51PM

Rob Thomas wrote: »

There's not a whole lot wrong with what he is saying. I think most fans are frustrated by what can look like the lack of effort.

Players have to take some responsibility in fairness. That's not to say that Jose is not blameless either and eventually he will go.

I hope we see Herrera today, he will certainly give 110%.

LiamoSail · 16-12-2018 02:54PM

nullzero wrote: »

A world class player who is playing like a non league player doesn't deserve to be retained.

Who cares about what he deserves, I'm speaking on the basis of what's best for United.

If United want a world class midfielder they need to get the best out of Pogba. If they don't, or choose to replace him instead, they won't have a world class midfielder.

nullzero · 16-12-2018 02:59PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

Who cares about what he deserves, I'm speaking on the basis of what's best for United.

If United want a world class midfielder they need to get the best out of Pogba. If they don't, or choose to replace him instead, they won't have a world class midfielder.

We don't have a world class midfielder at the moment. We have a guy who misplaces passes in every game, goes missing in every game he plays and is supposedly one of the main reasons for unrest in the squad.

How having him at the club is what's best for United boggles my mind.

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 16-12-2018 03:05PM

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again! Some of these bluffers at our club have seen off Moyes AND LVG and look like they’ll see of José now too. At what point do they need to look at them self and do the board need to see these characters aren’t upto it?

BenK · 16-12-2018 03:08PM

nullzero wrote: »

We don't have a world class midfielder at the moment. We have a guy who misplaces passes in every game, goes missing in every game he plays and is supposedly one of the main reasons for unrest in the squad.

How having him at the club is what's best for United boggles my mind.

This is why Fergie was so good, how good someone was on paper was irrelevant, if they didn't fit the team dynamic and have the right mentality they were out the door. So many examples down through the years where he got rid of players that on the face of it still had many years left in them as United players.

LiamoSail · 16-12-2018 03:09PM

nullzero wrote: »

We don't have a world class midfielder at the moment. We have a guy who misplaces passes in every game, goes missing in every game he plays and is supposedly one of the main reasons for unrest in the squad.

How having him at the club is what's best for United boggles my mind.

Get the best out of him as others have and you will have a world class player. Hardly rocket science, it's not Tom Cleverly we're talking about here. It can be done

16-12-2018 03:09PM

Business Cat wrote: »

All I want to see is some heart, some fcuking fight from the players. If they can't get g'ed up for this fixture then we are truly lost as a club. In the grand scheme of things the result is moot, Jose still must go, we still have too many passengers, but it would be nice to see some bloody effort put in.

I saw a stat during fulhams game yesterday that only they at 7 goals had conceeded more goals then us in the first 15 minutes of games its crazy how bad we start games

If pogba and lukaku start i think we have no hope

nullzero · 16-12-2018 03:15PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

Get the best out of him as others have and you will have a world class player. Hardly rocket science, it's not Tom Cleverly we're talking about here. It can be done

OK, we'll hold onto him until a new manager arrives to "get the best" out of him.
He can't complete simple five yard passes, who is to blame for that?

How Soon Is Now · 16-12-2018 03:16PM

Haha I'm the ultimate jinx when comes to betting!!

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

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