Body of a newborn found on Balbriggan beach

koutoubia · 15-12-2018 05:05PM #1

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/gardai-investigating-after-body-believed-to-be-of-baby-found-on-dublin-beach-37629125.html?fbclid=IwAR1iHZIzgQ7wdmgHCrbnx6PlV52DCLBwzcs3wq08SrggA762q-BDMJ3I7v0

Really thought these days were consigned to the dark past but painfully not.

The Hill Billy · 15-12-2018 05:19PM

Tragic. My heart goes out to those involved.

catrionanic · 15-12-2018 09:01PM

I don't live a million miles away, and have a newborn baby. I've been particularly affected by this story as a result.

I will never understand why the women leave the babies in places like this. Why can't they leave them somewhere where they may get discovered and be kept alive? You could leave that baby on the doorstep of almost any household in the country and it would be cared for. Oh how I wish she had left the baby on my doorstep instead.

So so tragic.

eviltwin · 15-12-2018 09:08PM

It's awful to think of a woman delivering a baby in such circumstances that she feels her only option is to abandon it. We don't know the background and if it even was the mother who left it or if the child was even alive. I'm sure she is terrified

T-Maxx · 15-12-2018 09:38PM

Whatever about her circumstances - I hope she's found and prosecuted.

godtabh · 15-12-2018 09:40PM

T-Maxx wrote: »

Whatever about her circumstances - I hope she's found and prosecuted.

Have some hearth. This couldn’t have been easy for her

NSAman · 15-12-2018 09:41PM

Have the Gaurds questioned Johanna Hayes yet?

Seriously, sad state of affairs if the people involved think this is the only option available to them. RIP little one.

Bubblegummers · 15-12-2018 09:43PM

RIP baby, but I think people need to consider someone’s mental health. Nobody willingly leaves their child while in their right frame of mind, I hope she is found safely.

John_Rambo · 15-12-2018 10:01PM

T-Maxx wrote: »

Whatever about her circumstances - I hope she's found and prosecuted.

Whatever her circumstances - I hope she's found alive and gets the help she needs. Hopefully lessons can be learnt to stop this type of thing happening again.

Try to maintain a bit of dignity and empathy next time T-maxx.

Bubblegummers · 15-12-2018 10:21PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

Whatever her circumstances - I hope she's found alive and gets the help she needs. Hopefully lessons can be learnt to stop this type of thing happening again.

Try to maintain a bit of dignity and empathy next time T-maxx.

A lot of people on this board must come from families with everything intact and no issues to be able to call for the mother’s head.

I suffer from severe depression where I’ve spent time inside units that no person ever wants to see, and spoke to more doctors then sits in the mater hospital. Mental Ill health is frightening and I can say with all certainty this mother is suffering just that.

Sleeper12 · 15-12-2018 10:21PM

koutoubia wrote:

Really thought these days were consigned to the dark past but painfully not.

Almost word for word from my wife a few hours ago on this.

Wesser · 15-12-2018 10:23PM

For those of you who are being harsh on the mother. Just to.point it it's very possible she has a mental illness which is not her fault.

Dizzyblonde · 15-12-2018 10:32PM

Such a tragedy, hopefully they'll find the mother and give her the help she needs. We have no idea just how hard life is for some people.
RIP little baby.

ted1 · 15-12-2018 10:35PM

T-Maxx wrote: »

Whatever about her circumstances - I hope she's found and prosecuted.

Disgusting comment. Some where out there, there is a girl or lady in distress.

The baby may have been still born you have no idea what went on

The Hill Billy · 15-12-2018 10:36PM

Mod note: Out of respect for those involved in this tragedy, we would ask members to refrain from posting speculation.

tHB

15-12-2018 10:37PM

Wesser wrote: »

For those of you who are being harsh on the mother. Just to.point it it's very possible she has a mental illness which is not her fault.

To be fair you could say any one who commits against another person must have mental issues. Why only women?

Wesser · 15-12-2018 10:42PM

Of course there are some who murder others who are deemed guilty but insane. Happens from time to time. There is a higher Incidence of psychiatric disease around the time of pregnancy.

Even if not she must have been fairly distressed to have done what she did. So I do not support the previous posters call to.prosecute her

Dizzyblonde · 15-12-2018 10:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

To be fair you could say any one who commits against another person must have mental issues. Why only women?

This thread is specifically about a woman who more than likely gave birth alone and possibly on a beach, in winter. It's not the sort of thing you would do if you felt you had any other option.

Nobody is saying "only women".

Sleeper12 · 15-12-2018 10:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

To be fair you could say any one who commits against another person must have mental issues. Why only women?

As far as I can see onl;ine no one knows what happened yet. It could have been a stillbirth or died of natural causes after birth. The mother could be greif struck. The mother could be as young as 13.

There are many possibilities & it's a little early to be starting this conversation imo

T-Maxx · 15-12-2018 11:01PM

ted1 wrote:

Disgusting comment. Some where out there, there is a girl or lady in distress.

The baby may have been still born you have no idea what went on

I don't know the facts and neither do you. What I do know is that if she went to a hospital the baby might still be alive.

eviltwin · 15-12-2018 11:04PM

T-Maxx wrote: »

I don't know the facts and neither do you. What I do know is that if she went to a hospital the baby might still be alive.

And maybe there is a good reason why she didn't, or couldn't, have the baby in a hospital.

15-12-2018 11:09PM

Dizzyblonde wrote: »

This thread is specifically about a woman who more than likely gave birth alone and possibly on a beach, in winter. It's not the sort of thing you would do if you felt you had any other option.

Nobody is saying "only women".

Sure. But you don't know. But the defaulting position when women commit atrocity is mental illness.

splinter65 · 15-12-2018 11:11PM

catrionanic wrote: »

I don't live a million miles away, and have a newborn baby. I've been particularly affected by this story as a result.

I will never understand why the women leave the babies in places like this. Why can't they leave them somewhere where they may get discovered and be kept alive? You could leave that baby on the doorstep of almost any household in the country and it would be cared for. Oh how I wish she had left the baby on my doorstep instead.

So so tragic.

We have no idea who left the baby there or why.

splinter65 · 15-12-2018 11:12PM

godtabh wrote: »

Have some hearth. This couldn’t have been easy for her

I can never understand why people jump to conclusions and assumptions about these news stories. Sure we have no idea what happened yet.

splinter65 · 15-12-2018 11:14PM

T-Maxx wrote: »

Whatever about her circumstances - I hope she's found and prosecuted.

She might be 10. She might be dead. She might be lying somewhere gravely ill. But let’s get a lynch mob ready just in case.

Ultimate Seduction · 15-12-2018 11:18PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

To be fair you could say any one who commits against another person must have mental issues. Why only women?

Was about to post same. Anyone who commits murder is insane. This woman is a murderer

splinter65 · 15-12-2018 11:18PM

T-Maxx wrote: »

I don't know the facts and neither do you. What I do know is that if she went to a hospital the baby might still be alive.

You have no idea if she was in a hospital or not. She may have left the hospital with a live baby. You know nothing but you are judging pointing and condemning away like crazy.

Becks610 · 15-12-2018 11:19PM

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Was about to post same. Anyone who commits murder is insane. This woman is a murderer

Baby could have been still born. That is not a woman’s fault- surely you know that.

splinter65 · 15-12-2018 11:20PM

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Was about to post same. Anyone who commits murder is insane. This woman is a murderer

You’ve decided that a woman has committed murder.
What grounds have you to come to this conclusion?

AtomicHorror · 15-12-2018 11:22PM

T-Maxx wrote: »

I don't know the facts and neither do you. What I do know is that if she went to a hospital the baby might still be alive.

If we take that at face value, how does this knowledge of what might have been back up your claim that someone should be prosecuted? You can't prosecute someone merely for not going to a hospital, regardless of the outcome of that decision.

I think you had a strong reaction to this story, which is understandable, but you let that become unhelpful and misdirected anger very quickly. You can and should step back from that.

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Was about to post same. Anyone who commits murder is insane. This woman is a murderer

This is very depressing.

Bubblegummers · 15-12-2018 11:24PM

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Was about to post same. Anyone who commits murder is insane. This woman is a murderer

You need your head looked at.

Body of a newborn found on Balbriggan beach

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