Hi vis discussion thread (read post #1)

CramCycle · 13-12-2018 12:08PM

Interestingly accuracy rates have sky rocketed in training drills in Finland. Whether this correlates in anyway to how accurate Irish drivers are at knocking down cyclists remains to be seen.

magicbastarder · 13-12-2018 12:25PM

to be fair, i'd like to try one of those vests. i assume they're made from kevlar and are bulletproof.

GreeBo · 13-12-2018 12:51PM

Melodeon wrote: »

Here comes the Finnish army:

I don't get this post, all I see is a tank with lights on the back

:rolleyes:

Ray Bloody Purchase · 13-12-2018 12:54PM

Is that tank insured and pay road tax?

CramCycle · 13-12-2018 12:56PM

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

Is that tank insured and pay road tax?

Wouldn't be allowed to be insured on Irish roads as it would damage the road (more so than it already is)

CramCycle · 13-12-2018 12:56PM

GreeBo wrote: »

I don't get this post, all I see is a tank with lights on the back

I see two tanks, the Hi Vis on the second one was the last thing I noticed :pac:

Melodeon · 13-12-2018 02:59PM

In fairness, only for the hi-viz, he'd be putting himself in danger of appearing out of nowhere in front of a hapless motorist, causing them untold anguish and trauma by leaving them no alternative whatsoever but to kill him to death!

Also in fairness, this is most likely a training exercise of some sort. I strongly suspect that if Russian tank regiments were massing on the Eastern border, the hi-viz and lights would be quickly discarded.

07Lapierre · 13-12-2018 05:15PM

Melodeon wrote: »

Here comes the Finnish army:

Why isn't he using the perfectly good "Tank Lane" paid out of MY taxes???:mad:

magicbastarder · 13-12-2018 06:04PM

Weepsie wrote: »

Just as well that wasn't used when Simo Hayha aka "The White Death" was serving

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4

you can say that again!

Grassey · 13-12-2018 06:30PM

zell12 wrote: »

Meanwhile in Ireland

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1072474839951269889

Melodeon · 13-12-2018 07:17PM

Weepsie wrote: »

Just as well that wasn't used when Simo Hayha aka "The White Death" was serving

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4

But think how many Russian deaths could have been prevented if they'd only worn their hi-viz!

check_six · 17-12-2018 04:28PM

Was I hallucinating when I heard that there was to be a "Hi-Vis Day" coming up soon as advertised on the radio? Maybe I'm just misinterpreting some call to arms for a protest movement with vague objectives?

zell12 · 17-12-2018 04:35PM

check_six wrote: »

Was I hallucinating ...

There was a Yella Vest protest in Dublin on 15th in the pouring rain, from Custom House to Dáil.

Melodeon · 17-12-2018 04:39PM

check_six wrote: »

Was I hallucinating when I heard that there was to be a "Hi-Vis Day" coming up soon as advertised on the radio? Maybe I'm just misinterpreting some call to arms for a protest movement with vague objectives?

It's probably the Usual Suspects professionally-outraged crowd trying to create an Irish version of the French Mouvement des gilets jaunes.

Now, it they were trying to create a 'Maillot Jaune' movement...

zell12 · 19-12-2018 01:52PM

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1075331887315542017

rubadub · 19-12-2018 02:04PM

zell12 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1075331887315542017

I wonder was anything said to the woman with the motorbike which was presumably uninsured, untaxed, no plates, no helmet etc. Not just a stand on scooter, had a little seat.

Noel Rock went on his in full view of 2 gardai who did nothing.

Ray Bloody Purchase · 19-12-2018 03:06PM

rubadub wrote: »

I wonder was anything said to the woman with the motorbike which was presumably uninsured, untaxed, no plates, no helmet etc. Not just a stand on scooter, had a little seat.

Noel Rock went on his in full view of 2 gardai who did nothing.
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Are those scooters illegal or not? I see they are being sold in a BMS on Abbey Street.

https://www.cyclebike.ie/scooters/

rubadub · 19-12-2018 03:09PM

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

Are those scooters illegal or not? I see they are being sold in a BMS on Abbey Street.

https://www.cyclebike.ie/scooters/

illegal to use on a public road AFAIK, though some like to make out like its a grey area. Totally legal to sell, you could be using them on private land.

The garda had a tweet before about doing someone on one very similar to that pictured.

DMR Traffic Electric mechanically propelled scooter stopped on public road No Insurance/Licence Scooter seized & prosecution to follow

https://twitter.com/gardatraffic/status/890477022245519361?lang=en

here is a bicycle with petrol tank
https://twitter.com/gardatraffic/status/897540601788420096

Ray Bloody Purchase · 19-12-2018 03:14PM

rubadub wrote: »

illegal to use on a public road AFAIK, though some like to make out like its a grey area. Totally legal to sell, you could be using them on private land.

The garda had a tweet before about doing someone on one very similar to that pictured.

Cheers, i see a lot of them on my daily commute now. They're silent and can fairly zip along.

It's a bit disconcerting to be pedaling up the bridge at Harolds Cross on the way out of town and some silent raider zooms up outside you on one of those things.

Macy0161 · 19-12-2018 04:07PM

check_six wrote: »

Was I hallucinating when I heard that there was to be a "Hi-Vis Day" coming up soon as advertised on the radio? Maybe I'm just misinterpreting some call to arms for a protest movement with vague objectives?

Heard the ad today from the RSA - National Be Safe Be Seen Day, which is this Friday. The advert encourages wearing a hi-hiz arm band "in solidarity" FFS....

Mickiemcfist · 19-12-2018 04:14PM

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

Cheers, i see a lot of them on my daily commute now. They're silent and can fairly zip along.

It's a bit disconcerting to be pedaling up the bridge at Harolds Cross on the way out of town and some silent raider zooms up outside you on one of those things.

Me too, it's fairly humiliating when they whizz past you as you're on an uphill section!

check_six · 19-12-2018 05:22PM

Macy0161 wrote: »

Heard the ad today from the RSA - National Be Safe Be Seen Day, which is this Friday. The advert encourages wearing a hi-hiz arm band "in solidarity" FFS....

Aha! My initial hallucination is starting to spread. Everyone will be hearing it all the time shortly. Bit like St. Vitus Dancing Plague!

Could I fashion a counter armband in time? Not black, but maybe camouflage pattern? (Yes, I will still be running my bright lights, in case anyone asks).

AndrewJRenko · 19-12-2018 06:30PM

check_six wrote: »

Macy0161 wrote: »

Heard the ad today from the RSA - National Be Safe Be Seen Day, which is this Friday. The advert encourages wearing a hi-hiz arm band "in solidarity" FFS....

Could I fashion a counter armband in time? Not black, but maybe camouflage pattern? (Yes, I will still be running my bright lights, in case anyone asks).

I tried that last year but no one noticed

Thinkingaboutit · 20-12-2018 10:13AM

check_six wrote: »

Was I hallucinating when I heard that there was to be a "Hi-Vis Day" coming up soon as advertised on the radio? Maybe I'm just misinterpreting some call to arms for a protest movement with vague objectives?

So maybe all those RSA yellow jackets could overthrow the state (á la gillet jaune), and maybe get more considered cycle lane design, or a non spoofer as Minister for Transport. The RSA created a monster. :pac:

Macy0161 · 22-12-2018 04:01PM

Would've been spotted had they had lights...

https://road.cc/content/news/253705-gatwick-drone-suspects-hid-plain-sight-riding-bikes-and-wearing-hi-vis

tomasrojo · 22-12-2018 04:09PM

https://twitter.com/nigreenways/status/1076492763510784000

(Ok, not hiviz)

FreudianSlippers · 22-12-2018 04:41PM

rubadub wrote: »

illegal to use on a public road AFAIK, though some like to make out like its a grey area. Totally legal to sell, you could be using them on private land.

Correct , see Road Traffic Act 1961, section 3:

“mechanically propelled vehicle” means, subject to subsection (2) of this section, a vehicle intended or adapted for propulsion by mechanical means, including—

(a) a bicycle or tricycle with an attachment for propelling it by mechanical power, whether or not the attachment is being used,

(b) a vehicle the means of propulsion of which is electrical or partly electrical and partly mechanical,

Clearly the Act is probably out of date and likely doesn't realistically envision electric bicycles and scooters (the latter of which I think, personally, are so dumb) and should be updated to allow for their use on public roads but require the usual safety equipment that would be expected.

I'm not sure about insurance? Seems a slippery slope - would we then logically suggest that cyclists should have a licence / insurance?

Water John · 22-12-2018 05:52PM

Seems to be a real problem in The Netherlands too with all these various modes of transport on the cycleways.

Hurrache · 23-12-2018 10:11AM

Obligatory I'm surprised they saw them to stop them comment
https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1076189573116514304?s=19

zell12 · 23-12-2018 12:11PM

Garda join in Dublin yellow vest protest yesterday :pac:
pedestrians and wheelchairs in the bike lane etc etc
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